Using Heating Oil in Vehicle: Impact on Engine, Pump & Components (Vectra B, Isuzu Engine)

whether driving on heating oil actually destroys components (engine, pump), I met with a few different sentences .
Some say that nothing bad will happen and that the ride is the same, and others scare that if something falls, it will flow nicely with payment for parts (I have a vectre B with an isuzu engine).
what do you say and maybe someone has already traveled or is driving all the time, please for your opinions and observations.

Does not destroy the pump,
nor the injectors!
and it is ILLEGAL

but the combustion conditions and its products are different.
It is not resistant to low temperatures - paraffin precipitates.

It all depends on the origin of the fuel. Very often fuel oil is actually agricultural (i.e. ordinary) crude oil imported especially not for stoves, but for sale it is known to whom. It is only dyed red because it is known - it must. I personally drove around 50 - 60,000 on borscht (different) and I did not notice any negatives, on the contrary: the isuzu midi 2.2D on oil pulled out on the highway about 130 km / ha on fuel, it closed the meter without any problems. If I was pouring "unknown" borscht, I would add about 0.5l of mixol to a full tank, so proforma - the fuel has the right to be drier than crude oil. Now I don't have a diesel engine, but I know that borscht is poured into turbodiesels, they do not give mixol and they have no problems. You just need to talk to people where the borscht is relatively proven and refuel there.

By the way, I would like to deny the rumor that the Germans do not drive fuel - the truth is they can count too - the bastards install 1000 l tanks in their basements, a pump and have something in their garages, ala a distributor with a quantity meter and a normal gun as at a station. That's the pie ..... 15 cents a liter.

The Germans have always done this, find a German farmer who has a gasoline car (the oil for farmers is subsidized there) and the CO stoves only run on crude oil, but it is also illegal there and they control them.

Those who drive long routes on the highway (no control) are the most up-to-date. However, the police are not as stupid there as ours. There, they do not check the fuel by inserting a tube into the fuel filler, but check at the injection pump (I don't know how, maybe overflows?).

I drove about 100,000 km on the MB 123D. I poured 1 liter of MIXOL oil into the fuel tank. The advantages: more power, speed, trouble-free starting even in winter.

I read this little story about this BMW and such things came to me
1) A significant part of the fuel at Polish stations is fuel anyway, so much that it is discolored sulfuric acid (which makes it even worse)
2) You have to ask your friends where they are taking and whether they are satisfied
3) dirt, filings, etc. are in regular fuel too.
4) the described BMW was too smart and it was adapting its electronics unsuccessfully to slightly different fuel parameters (you can see it was real fuel)
5) In "normal" motors, ie without super-electronics, there is no problem from point 4
6) Good fuel is not bad

Generally, in older engines, there will be nothing, except for VW, because the pumps are lubricated with diesel fuel there, and the fuel is drier.

It seems to me that the brand does not matter, VW does not make the pump, but for example BOSCH, it is the same in other companies. A little oil will not hurt. It seems to me that it does not even have to be a mixol, but an ordinary engine mixol, but it is pre-mixed with fuel to mix it better. Mixol IMO has "less oil in oil" because it is scarce due to various additives that help dissolve it in gasoline. In diesel, it probably doesn't matter that much and we can add less of it. Some do not add at all and the engine runs well for many tens of km. A German friend has Citr. BX 1.9 TD and loads clean fuel here and in Germanania and beats hard on the motorway around 180 km / h non-stop. Several times - twice a week for about 1200 km and nothing happens (even the turbine does not rain). Last year his belt tensioner broke and I took off his heads and no deviations from the norm (over 250,000 is already some thresholds in the garages, but the compression is ok).

czmiel wrote:

Generally, in older engines, there will be nothing, except for VW, because the pumps are lubricated with diesel fuel there, and the fuel is drier.

I don't know what's drying you up
Oil is greasy as hell.
You used to take a fuel pump apart
furnace CO?
The pumped pleasure is lubricated.

I just remind you that it is illegal!
You are robbing each other, lord, madam, society.

CKsrv wrote:

You are robbing each other, lord, madam, society.

And when the state robs us, it is legal ????

So.

I did 60,000 on my AX 1.4D and nothing happened (I poured mixol).
Note a month ago tranzita in-laws checked (he was clean)

And how did they check, the tank pipe, or more elaborately, and do they check only the company ones or passenger cars too? And as for this, WV, I knew 2 cases of seizure of the pump after using it on a firewood! maybe these were just cases?

The pumps in most cars are probably similar, so it is probably not related to the brand. I am convinced that much of the "normal" oil is discolored (with sulfuric acid) fuel. The mass of the stations counterfeit fuel, even those under the names of well-known companies. As far as I know, only statoil and schell stations are certain. I do not want to start the topic of fuel counterfeiting too much because this is not a forum for this, but for example I have used fuel many times at a BP station (now the company took its logo but still not seriously because the stations under its patronage should be often controlled by the company itself) in Skwierzyna, in Gorzowski. I did not refuel the crude oil, but I took gasoline (not for the car) only for construction machinery and I will say that it smelled of everything but gasoline. Not a one-off observation, but from a longer period, I took there because I had to - the only station closest. Last year, an inspection was carried out and it turned out that none of the fuels sold there meet any standards. Pouring oil in such stations harms the engine much more than driving fuel. I guess make no mistake when I write that 30% of the fuel in our beautiful country is somehow shoddy. I recommend refueling (legal) fuel only at certain stations, preferably in large cities. People avoid small ignition switches by the road. Maybe the toddler will pull on some gasoline substitute, but new cars can go crazy (electronics will go crazy) and of course the engine gets d ...

Gentlemen !!
Do not overdo this discoloration of the fuel!
It is known that in the 90s and at the beginning of our century the decolorization of fuel was of great importance ... but after the so-called The procedure of the fuel scandal has been successfully curtailed, though not 100%, but has been limited ... I know what I am saying myself, I am deeply rooted in the fuel and oil market ... and many years have been very good, but now various authorities are chasing, unfortunately!
When it comes to Germany, it's true that people make whole fuel stations in the cellars hehhe ..
When it comes to driving on fuel, I would not advise on new engines because it is a short life and the repair costs are huge.
I personally have an old 10-year-old passat and I run on opal, but I do not pour it on the new Audica also on diesel ...
greetings..!!!

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When it comes to driving on fuel, I would not advise on new engines because it is a short life and the repair costs are huge.

well, I drove my E-46 on fuel about 200 thousand. kilometers and nothing has broken so far, I do not add any additives, only clean fuel, assuming that the car burns about 8 l OO per 100 km, I save
about 10 PLN after driving 200,000 I saved 20,000 PLN and this is not a small amount so that even if something dies now, the repair costs will not exceed PLN 5,000, so the bill is simple.
I prefer to pour clean fuel than oil of unknown origin for PLN 2. dudes from aso overstated the cost of repair (unless they set up the injection pump for a new one, cost 8000pln, used 2000)
I greet all opałowców

Interesting topic, especially with constantly rising fuel prices (will it finally end?). Therefore, I have a question, does anyone use the TDI engine of the AUDI / VW concern from the years 94 - 97 (I mean 1Z, AFN engines) on the red bull? I am asking because I am planning to buy a golf 3 or a passat b4 and in general I did not even intend to go to oo, but since you do not know what is pouring into the tank at the station? I would like to add that I have a friend who has already driven several hundred thousand km in an Opel combo (ordinary diesel 1.7) (fuel from a very good source, people can travel several dozen kilometers to buy it) and absolutely nothing bad happens, in winter he burns from the touch.
Greetings

I prefer to pour clean fuel than oil of unknown origin for PLN 2.

Well, you pour fuel and drive, and you made so many kilos .. but unfortunately I do not pour it for my Volvo FH12, because if they caught me, I would not pay out and I would leave the fame and a license for transport
greetings!!!

proposes to pour dung into some cdi dci hdi or tdi on unit injectors
the cost of the repair will certainly lead to thinking if you can run on fuel
if someone has a lot of money, it's even a NEED

Opinions are divided, one is the other that, I will say what I saw.
Lack of additives causes faster corrosion of pump elements and injectors,
the dye is clogging the filters.
And how much does such a road control cost?

today I refuel for 3.35 / liter, this is probably one of the main arguments in favor of fuel, which can be charged for 2.30;

My opinion is this !!!
Those who run on opal know and say that it is good and even better than it is only illegal.
Those who have never ridden fuel say that it is bad, it spoils the pump and engine.

I use 3000 liters a year and I don't see any negative effects of the filters, I don't have to replace them, it is much cleaner than it can, because it brings me a tanker and it is not overflowing in dirty, full of water and rubbish tanks of gas stations.
As far as I know, it differs from ON by specific gravity, is lighter, does not contain paraffin, does not clog filters, lubricates worse, you can add oil. Subjectively, it seems to me that the fuel-powered engine is more powerful and smokes less.

nasu wrote:

... and less smoke.

I certainly do not agree with that. Unless it is the fuel itself that smokes so much and the oil added to it. After all, I live in the countryside and I can see which farmer is driving on orenżada (when the tractor gets quite specific, you can see (or rather you can't see anything) ) lots of smoke and a characteristic smell.

People here probably have some oppressions! Where did you get such nonsense that when driving on fuel, the engine and components wear the same as on diesel? Pour ether into gasoline and you will see what is the difference between more greasy than less greasy fuels. All elements that are lubricated with diesel fuel, i.e. the pump, the injectors are seized, which increases the clearances several times faster on fuel than on diesel. It is usually visible when the red is flooded with ropka after a long exploitation. Then the awl comes out of the sack, if necessary, with the car zapier ...... through half the city to get it lit.
If you have any expert appraiser, ask what miracles happen in red engines. God forbid, when the car is still under warranty and the customer on the site pushes the dark that he would never pour fuel into his car in his life. Read a little about it and you will change your mind.
I am not an opponent of fuel, although if you pour it you still have to buy mixol.
One more little advice, if someone has a new generation car with pump injectors, etc., better let go of such saving. Such fun costs a lot, unlike the old W123 barrel, etc.
Keep your head on your neck and let Mixol be with you.

Vonkermit writes well if you have a new car for 50,000, do not save on fuel because it may turn out that your engine will end its life (I did such a motor myself, I did not do it because it turned out that replacing the engine with a new one was less expensive) if you have a barrel for 2,000 even if you run out (what will not happen too soon, the car is difficult to manage), you can go on fuel + mixol because the loss is not great and the savings can be large. Just one more note that the fuel oil has a very large viscosity spread and be careful not to pour the weaker one because you may end up with a car that is seized from the pump to the injection
greetings
ps. completely illegal when using fuel, you run the risk of serious legal consequences (especially when you have a business and settle the car)

cikol wrote:

nasu wrote:

... and less smoke.

I certainly do not agree with that. Unless it is the fuel itself that smokes so much and the oil added to it. After all, I live in the countryside and I can see which farmer is driving in the orangeade (when the tractor gets quite specific you can see (or rather you can't see anything) ) lots of smoke and a characteristic smell.

In my opinion: first of all, Ursus do not like to ride on orangeade , and secondly, they probably pour this mixol so much that it even has to crawl it out sideways.
The guys who lend me his farming equipment only use fuel (no mixol) and it's not that bad.

PS I once saw Lublin in Poznań, from which a HUGE amount of black smoke was escaping, but I suspect that not because of borscht, but because of damage to the engine ... But there was smoke in half the street ... ...: / [/ img]