Belingo 1.6HDI 90km Engine Oil Leak - Analyzing Potential Damage and Flaws

Good morning,

The problem is oil pouring on the engine from the combination of pneumothorax with the intake. The connection is press-fitted, sealed with an O-ring. Plastic-material seating. There may be a leak. I disconnected them and my engine oil is leaking. The car has about 160 kkm on the meter.
This is normal for these engines, does this indicate a leakage at the bottom / valve seals?
Initial I thought it was from the valve cover but not (only).

You have some experience with these engines. The construction is successful, but maybe there is a flaw or a damaged copy.

applies to Belingo HDI 1.6 90km 2009
The last 8 VIN 67022773


Kisses

Judging by the paintwork, the lack of immo and oil, rather a pretty dead body.

Sometimes appearances can be deceiving. Certainly run down. That's why I ask those who deal with this engine how it is ...

If oil is pouring there, you may have a clogged emphysema. Well, these latches on the white connector like to pop out, I squeeze them with a t-shirt.

@ jasq33 thanks for the info. I think there shouldn't be much in the oil inlet. Rather, after removing the screw from the intake pipe (the one in the photo), the oil should not spill out. Where do you think is plugged with emphysema?

The emphysema is with the entire valve cover. Most often, turbo spits oil like this, if not turbo, it is a blew motor.

Since the turbo is spitting electricity. Check the clearance for 5 minutes in this engine. there can be no longitudinal play, and a large top play, but if it is too big, the top turbine has longitudinal play. But for the sake of clarity, these shitty engines and so max 160,000 and turbo to replace. As for the leakage, I replace the O-ring with a new one and they often break these mounting brackets, so you only have to replace them or often with three poles, two on the sides, one holds the two around. And it can refuse to hold anymore and crashes the turbo oil, but the engine should kick, if it does not kick, just replace the o-ring and that the fasteners hold well.

The question of a failing connection is obvious. The question is whether oil can fly when this connection is unfastened? He does not flow down by gravity to the bowl, valves? I didn't take this engine apart, so I'm asking. I do not know if this is a problem of engine wear - air blows from the bottom / top - or this engine is pouring this nozzle from the news. When the turbo is pouring, it goes towards the intercooler. According to the air flow direction and gravity. I checked the axle on a cold one - slight transverse play, small longitudinal play. Which was strange, it was hard for me to turn around with my fingers. Engines without dual mass and dpfu are said to be durable. I don't know just about this turbine. I've only heard of the oil strainer getting clogged.

You can unscrew this screw at the bottom, which goes turbo oil to the engine and throw this ode from this tube, such a small metal strainer looks like sticky balls, they collapse and do not lubricate the turbo. This is an emphysema and there will always be a little oil there, unless you clean it all up and nothing goes for a while. These are the oil condensation, after time the oil must appear. And in diesel, oil is always not a maximum of 70-80%. And as for the engine itself, I have not yet had a tagi in the repair of a broken turbo, always to replace the glass, and every time the oil comes, it flies there. I had only one accident with this engine, and my grandmother took the turbo out of our country and told us that it was smoking something wrong. The car kicked up and it rained with pneumothorax, we repaired the hamuce because the car was about to be inspected, in this case we said that the emphysema was not going to be replaced anymore. The boss went to the inspection, the guest from the inspection gasped to check the exhaust gases and what - the car itself went into rotation, it sucked in the oil from the pneumothorax and a pile of smoke, it must have cracked the turbo new and the engine stopped. You don't smoke, so don't worry.

@jarysss

jarysss wrote:

unscrew this screw at the bottom what goes turbo oil to the engine and throw this odme from this tube such a small metal strainer

You must have mixed up something. This avoids venting the engine compartment and valves. What you write about is an oil main lubricating the turbine axle and there is a strainer. There is only an oil drain - albeit to the same space I mean ONLY and only this connection from the photo marked in red. Does it have the right to pour oil after unbuttoning it? I saw the puking engine from the place where the owner supposedly sealed the valve cover, and it was pouring out of this connection. I unhooked it until the spout was pouring oil (not mayonnaise I am looking for a car with such an engine and hence the question whether this type is like that or a carcass.

What you are writing about is the self-diffusion of the turbocharger. Oil enters the inlet in large amounts and is burned up in the cylinders like diesel fuel. You have to throttle the engine quickly with high gear. I was doing it once. I do not recommend

Emphysema, it is a kind of oil filter designed to catch particles of oil from the vapors. I have seen pneumothorax filled with felt, some of them look like an ordinary filter, only surrounded by something like parchment, in some older cars there was a dense mesh. When this contraption is not working properly, a bit clogged and there is no free flow of vapors, the turbine draws this oil out of the engine. I had a case that a mechanic replaced two turbines before he realized that the emphysema was obstructed. Actually, I do not know how it is built in berlingo, but I think that something like a membrane and it is not very detachable, so the entire cover is replaced. Returning to the topic, as a colleague advised, replace the O-ring, protect it from falling out and watch the exhaust gases, when the car starts to emit a white / gray exhaust mist, start repairs with replacing the cover with pneumothorax. Thank you for your attention.

jasq33 wrote:

It is something like an oil filter

You are writing about an oil vapor separator. Often mounted in the valve cover and sometimes additionally outside. It is this mesh and / or membrane that are the components of the separator.

and this is the strainer that breaks down, it gets stuck frequently and the lubricating pressure of the turbine drops, I always break out when replacing the turbine. When you call where they regenerate, everyone tells you, throw out this strainer base.

@jarysss as for the strainer in the turbocharger, it's a matter of course, but thanks. The problem is with the oil in ODMA as in the photo. I recently watched two cars. One has the entire side flooded with oil under this connection, and after removing the inlet stub (photo - red circle), the oil spilled out. The second engine was washed and unpacked, but after unfastening the connection of emphysema and intake in the same place as in the previous car, it was also very wet and oil. I am looking for a car for myself and I do not know if this type is there or if the engine is full.

The place marked in red is an emphysema - and there is an oil separator in the head cover.
Turns out it doesn't meet anymore and is releasing oil.

The new head cover at ASO costs PLN 440.

@ pepe150 in the previous berlingo / partner these separators rarely broke. There was a rubber diaphragm. Usually the flying intake oil is too much blowoff from the crankcase / valve seals, and that equated the cost and the engine end. Do you have other experiences with this 1.6 HDI? In your opinion, it is not big blows that throw oil into the pneumothorax?

Hello.
I have a fiesta with this exact engine. In my opinion, the oil separator is badly resolved and hence the fuss. All the 1.6 hdi engines that I have seen have trouble with oil in the hose of the pneumothorax. Soon I will install an external separator, the so-called catch tank because in fiestas it is so that this nozzle of the odor is higher than the inlet and the oil flows into it without any problems. If the car is not smoking and everything else is ok, it is not a matter of disqualifying the engine.
Regards

From what I saw, the separator cover is removable - it has plastic hooks. The construction of the separator is probably similar to that of other cars of the PSA group - a rubber diaphragm. In another age car of this group it was not dismantleable, but I managed with a plastic welder - the membrane was there completely, not deformed.

You're all right, but the fault here lies in the injector leaks. This causes emphysema and turbo.The part of the injector between the rubber seal and the copper seal is located under the valve cover. When it blows out the copper seal, the exhaust gases get under the valve cover, the pressure in the crankcase rises, the oil thaws and the diaphragm is damaged. Blow-off gases mix with the oil mist to form an oil sludge which then clogs the turbine lubrication tube and the engine falls asleep. To eliminate the cause, replace the complete injection seal and make sure that the oil is changed at least every 15 kkm, and preferably every 10 kkm. The problem is described in more detail here

hmm, the author seems to have got it wrong. In this engine, the injector is not in any part under the valve cover and is not in contact with the oil. Yes, the design with the injector under the cover is, for example, in the tdi 1.6 2.0 from VW but not in the hdi

This connection that you are writing about is an emphysema, it is normal in older cars worn out emphysema
The entrance to the intake plug the exit from the pneumothorax, extend and release somewhere at the bottom of the engine so that the oil and exhaust gases escape there
The emphysema is responsible for venting the crankcase, the excess pressure from the bottom of the engine is then removed, it is attached to the intake only for ecological reasons because it cannot be released for the engine / intake because oil leaks from there after some time and drips, and as you know leakage from the engine is forbidden by law due to environmental reasons
As I mentioned, plug the hole in the intake and extend the exit from the pneumothorax to the engine
Positive pros are a clean intake system
The negative advantages are that the fumes will be released from outside this tube when parked
The pneumothorax connected to the inlet system is "needed" as much as the EGR

świerszcz.UK wrote:

As I mentioned, plug the hole in the intake and extend the exit from the pneumothorax to the engine
Positive pros are a clean intake system
The negative advantages are that when the vehicle is stationary, the exhaust gas will be released from outside the tube
The emphysema connected to the inlet system is as "needed" as the EGR

Oil catch tank and cleaning every oil change.
If you move behind the engine, all you get is oil stains under the car.

This is an unnecessary cost
But it can also be used
It's at your discretion
Because the use of this or that will be exactly the same

Sebek961 wrote:

You're all right, but the fault here lies in the injector leaks. This causes emphysema and turbo.The part of the injector between the rubber seal and the copper seal is located under the valve cover. When it blows out the copper seal, the exhaust gases get under the valve cover, the pressure in the crankcase rises, the oil thaws and the diaphragm is damaged. Blow-off gases mix with the oil mist to form an oil sludge which then clogs the turbine lubrication tube and the engine falls asleep. To eliminate the cause, replace the complete injection seal and make sure that the oil is changed at least every 15 kkm, and preferably every 10 kkm. The problem is described in more detail here

Sebek brought up the biggest problem of this bike here.

@ Sebek961 Thanks for the cool stuff. You tell interesting things. We finally bought a 1.6HDI 9HX (90KM without dual masses and FAP) from 2011. The article shows that from 2010 they improved the seal / gaskets. So our fury does not apply ... Some VIN range is possible to recognize the version after implementing the changes?

Also from the current engine, although it sweats a lot less.
From what I have done, the problem may also be with the (rigid) oil supply to the turbocharger. Apparently, the strainer was fully installed in the bottom screw. The main problems are the 110 HP units with a tube-compressor and steering wheels.
However, a modified oil line (stiff) is said to have come out. I don't know what the modification is? That it is clean and there is no inlet strainer?
Do you know anything about this?
It would probably be appropriate to drop the oil pan after purchase, check the strainer and the oil pump suction itself. Blow out the strainer from the compressor power supply and, of course, change the oil by rinsing beforehand. The oil looks decent in the car, and the engine itself is well-kept, apart from a pneumothorax leak.
Anyone working on something? These 90km 16V also hurt lubrication?
Kisses
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Replace the o-ring, it will stop leaking out.

Gee, so much nonsense in one post I have not read for a long time. He refuses to let go of the oil and some moron orders the strainer to be thrown out of the tube - the mechanic will let your ass out of you. Or 160 thousand and an engine to be refurbished ... well, the oil in these engines is probably running with 90 percent of the engines and that's the way it is.

Removing the strainer from the tube is okay, but in the event of pneumothorax, nothing will help.

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Replacing the O-ring also, not because the oil will go to the turbo and further to the intercooler until the engine can finally diverge

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For me it was the same, the replacement of the valve cover did not help. So I installed an oil separator / catch tank. Although it seemed to me the last resort, because I wanted to get to the fault and not just fix the problem temporarily, now I am happy with a lot of shit and the water stops me as it can be seen in the film, and I rarely look there so much there is no film from my editing in link below https://youtu.be/SYAI0IrksIQ if I helped, like the movie

Please make some good material from the construction of this catch tank. I used to do it and it is a bit of fun. After what mileage accumulated what you bled in the film? I also know that the diaphragm in the valve cover can break / choke. In the future, I would like to look into the inlet (made of plastic), there probably is a fraction of the cross-section. I saw such an intake, all made of something like mazout (oil with dust + temperature)

aksel7774 wrote:

I rarely look there

aksel7774 wrote:

nothing will help

BTW I'm not picking on, but correct the spelling (not about typos). The eyes hurt. Young people will remember, and we have such times that even among masters, illiteracy is spreading. It is a pity, because we have a beautiful language, and it is worth taking care of national identity in these crazy times.

Hello. I will try to correct these errors. I probably drove from 300 km and there was as much as in the movie - little oil, mainly water. But if I drive for a while with 1000 km, the amount of oil is already considerable, mainly in the form of a viscous suspension, the oil floats in the water. I think that the amount of oil depends on how I drive, when I press the gas and drive more dynamically, there is more of it, if I drive normally, it's small amounts. Somehow I do not add oil often, maybe 0.5 l per 2000 km, I think. From the construction of the installation? It will be hard because I already have the installation ready, so I would have to disassemble it and I totally don't have when. But it looks like I say in the movie. The copper elbow and the rest are the tank and pipes from the Allegro ?. Regards