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Cloning the SPACE remote control to the gate with the CAME drive

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  • #1 9015132
    marcos_777
    Level 13  
    Hello, it's about cloning the remote control to the parking gate.

    I would like to clone the SPACE remote control, such as in the pictures - to the sliding gate with the CAME drive for the parking lot in front of the block.

    I know there were similar topics, but maybe there is a different solution due to the chips used in the radio control. The remote control model is SPACE SP2. The chip is HCS200.

    I found some info on the net about this pilot:
    Quote:
    SPACE
    Complete radio road operating at 433.92 MHz, rolling code.
    General characteristics:

    * ABS housing (IP 54 / NEMA 3 protection)
    * 12V DC power supply for transmitters
    * 24V DC power supply for frequency cards and receivers
    * Operating range 50 - 150m
    * Possible code combinations 4 294 967 296
    * Product manufactured in Poland for the needs of CAME PL Sp. z o. o


    CAME drive: BK 230 V
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    Cloning the SPACE remote control to the gate with the CAME drive Cloning the SPACE remote control to the gate with the CAME drive

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    I called the installers directly today; I can buy a clean remote control for PLN 60 + PLN 60 for access with programming. I think I've decided...

    But maybe you know: how much can it cost and is it possible to clone it yourself (cost of the remote control, programmer, interface) and is it even possible without access to the drive controller?
    Rolling code, so probably not? :(

    Regards,

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    Topic to be closed. I already know the answer.
    I called CAME. They confirmed that because SPACE remotes are with a dynamically rolling code, there is NO possibility of cloning them without physical access to the control panel in the drive.
    And in addition to the key to open it, it is necessary to enter a code that only the service technician/administrator knows.

    (Other types of remotes, e.g. TOP, have a remote-to-pilot self-learning function.)

    So the installer remains + PLN 120.
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  • #3 10830250
    yarpen86
    Level 25  
    The previous speaker is right, remote controls of this type can be cloned without access to the control panel, unless the radio has been secured by the installer (which is not common even in community car parks).
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  • #4 10899190
    gn000
    Level 12  
    I don't understand this sentence: "unless the radio has been secured by the installer..." can I ask for something more about it, from my understanding it may be possible to clone it, but it is certainly not easy. To do this, it is necessary to invest in not very cheap hardware to calculate the key based on received packets. Do you know any other methods in theory or have access to them in practice?
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  • #5 10899906
    mikus1982
    User under supervision
    Secured means that the installer has blocked access with a code - password and he has a monopoly there.
  • #6 10900065
    gn000
    Level 12  
    OK - that's what I thought, although it wasn't clearly stated, I've been a bit interested in this topic lately and I wanted to know if there is anyone who can effectively clone such a remote control on the HCS200, I wanted to do it, but I quickly realized what the scale of the problem is. Although you can read about some theoretical solutions, I haven't found a practical solution to the problem. And I'm looking out of curiosity - I personally don't have anything to clone. But the subject really interested me.
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