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Is a 12V 74Ah 680A VARTA BLUE DYNAMIC Battery Suitable for C-330?

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  • #1 9199310
    Anonymous
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  • #2 9199646
    koper71
    Level 2  
    You probably didn`t go to school, the more Ah, the better the starter turns.
    There should be 2 6v 165Ah batteries in the c-330.
    You can have one, but not 74Ah, only 100 or more. Due to the high power consumption, it will not last long due to its small capacity.
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  • #3 9199685
    tomek130
    Level 22  
    If the starter and engine are functional, that`s enough.
  • #4 9199813
    skorpion1272
    Level 18  
    It depends on what conditions you intend to use the tractor (at what temperatures it will be started) and what condition the engine is in?
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  • #5 9199857
    koper71
    Level 2  
    I don`t agree with tomek130, there are also glow plugs that consume a lot of electricity.
  • #6 9199903
    rico37p
    Level 28  
    It`s also enough for candles, provided it`s properly charged. I`ve been using a used one left by a customer for two years now and it works quite well.
  • #7 9200603
    Zico63
    Level 37  
    In fact, you can`t fully understand the designers of this machine: a tiny "dynamo" with a power of 150W + large batteries and, on top of that, connected in an unfavorable manner in series. How is it supposed to be recharged (and car owners sometimes worry that their 55Ah won`t recharge their 55Am cars? 8-O )?
    If it is financially possible to change it, I support it. However, a larger power supply (alternator) is needed, and speaking of the battery itself, I think there are some analogies to passenger cars.
    So, for example, the VW Golf 3 1.9 Diesel, similar capacity, compression ratio even 22:1, which is more than in the Ursus, there are the same glow plugs, and in favor of the Ursus there is also a stress reliever - and the battery recommended for the Golf is 61Ah.
    So why wouldn`t it work in Ursus if equal to or greater than 74Ah?
  • #8 9200766
    mczapski
    Level 40  
    If the electrical system is functional and the engine is in good condition, it will of course be enough. But efficient installation includes, among others: also the generator and, preferably, the alternator and the starter. Large batteries were used precisely because of the inefficient generator and the type of operation of agricultural tractors in the last century. The engine runs for several hours without interruption, so this generator keeps the batteries in usable condition. However, if there is a need to use lighting, the batteries should have a large protection buffer (as the generator barely covers the demand). Nowadays, conditions have changed and we have more efficient batteries, generators, starters, and it is also easier to keep the engine in proper condition, so we can approach the issue differently.
  • #9 9201629
    piorun7890
    Level 18  
    What kind of starter do you have? The power-hungry R7 (the big one), R11, or with a gear.
  • #10 9201718
    Anonymous
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  • #11 9204804
    toku74
    Level 31  
    but you are helping him. The capacity of the battery is simple: how long will it crank, and the starting current is more important, its 680A. let it have up to 45AH with a starting current of 800A and it will be the best. why does it need a large capacity? it has electric windows, an on-board computer, and maybe a hundred lights, unless it has electric heating, but the alternator is still too weak. easy question. what in the C 330 tractor consumes electricity except the starter /which needs a kick once and for all, and not e.g. 1000Ah and 200 starting amperes/lights, wiper /as it is/. it`s less than in a toddler.
    simple: don`t look for high capacity, just high starting current.
  • #12 9205616
    Anonymous
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  • #13 9205658
    domellus
    Level 29  
    Buy a battery like the one installed in Lublin. CF1202 120Ah 870A center number.
  • #14 9205706
    Miracle Woman SM
    Level 19  
    A battery with a low starting current will not spin fast enough to ignite the engine.
    120Ah 870A - PLN 480 And two 6v centers PLN 540. So where will you put such a 12V block?
    I don`t know why to change the type of batteries in the C-330 since they are widely available and not the most expensive.
    It is better to replace the starter with a high-speed Chinese one for PLN 270.
  • #15 9205723
    rafbid
    Level 33  
    1 is enough to start the engine has a capacity of 1950 cm3.
    2 and what do you mean by the question, the greater the capacity or starting current.
  • #16 9205995
    domellus
    Level 29  
    Miracle Woman SM wrote:

    It is better to replace the starter with a high-speed Chinese one for PLN 270.

    Read the posts above. After all, the author writes that it has a high-speed starter with a gear. :) And besides, what kind of "block" if the battery from Lublin has similar dimensions to one of these two 6V ones :) Exactly, it is CG1102 110Ah 750A which the wholesaler replaces with 120Ah.
  • #17 9206424
    piorun7890
    Level 18  
    I would also recommend the one from Lublin, of course, the center. These Czech high-speed starters are good, not cheap Chinese junk.
  • #18 9206737
    Miracle Woman SM
    Level 19  
    But Czech costs over PLN 400.
    Besides, what`s the point of having 2000 cm3 if it has 2 long-stroke pistons?
  • #19 9206791
    rafbid
    Level 33  
    joye4142 wrote:
    with a 3kW high-speed gearbox and a 45 A alternator
    Are you sure it`s 3kW? 3000w/12V=250A
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Topic summary

The discussion centers around the suitability of a 12V 74Ah 680A VARTA BLUE DYNAMIC battery for a C-330 tractor. Responses indicate that while the battery may work if the starter and engine are in good condition, it is generally recommended to use larger batteries (100Ah or more) due to the high power consumption of the tractor. The original design of the C-330, which typically uses two 6V 165Ah batteries, suggests that a higher capacity is preferable for reliable performance. Factors such as the condition of the engine, the type of starter, and the electrical system's efficiency are crucial in determining battery adequacy. Some participants suggest alternatives like the CF1202 120Ah 870A battery from Lublin, emphasizing the importance of starting current over capacity. Overall, the consensus leans towards using a battery with higher starting current and capacity for optimal performance.
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