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DAF CF 85.450 Automat: Configuration Error (Red), Engine Not Burning, Possible Causes

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  • #1 9266176
    ozi4590
    Level 10  
    Hello. I have a problem with a dafa error. After the translation from English, I got a configuration error error in red.
    The engine spins but does not burn. I suspect it's the fault of being infected but I'm sure I'm not. A red box error also popped out.
    Do you know what is the cause of these errors?
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  • #2 9266695
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    The reasons can be many, and it is really hard to say what in the case of rewriting with rightooker can cause it. This is not a fault, where something went wrong and then I could suggest the most common reasons; weak points causing conf.error.Cos is not connected, something is wrongly connected and causes an error in the CAN network, i.e. you have a board on what you have. You need to connect the computer, do: 1.CAN message test;
    2. check VIC (or VIC-2) for errors;
    causes that can cause this is all litany, you need to know what exactly this causes, and not guess, because the shepherd will find you, and you will continue to try without having any idea what is going on.
    If you have, for example, a heart attack, then you check it by checking your eyesight, skin on the head, holes in the teeth, are you going to do an ECG?
    I would also like to add that aeration of the fuel system does not cause configuration error but at most the engine warning, while configuration error causes no start.
    Let me say this: check both ignition relays (G015 and G126) and ALL fuses, do not underestimate any fuses missing, and seemingly nothing to do with the engine.
  • #3 9287529
    DanRS
    Level 15  
    It seems to me that the drivers are not consistent.
  • #4 9287736
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    the drivers were the same, with the same softs, so why should they be inconsistent? there is no communication in CAN, a question only between which I control (or which jst driver "dead" - i.e. it does not generate a CAN signal)
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  • #5 9290152
    cas50
    Level 11  
    krisbrumm, you work in England and from what you write, you have a lot of breakdown after hours or do it in daf ITS 24/7 you can reveal how you pay for this system and how often you are on the roster
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  • #6 9290896
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    Yes, I am doing ITS. This is a bit complicated procedure. As for Polish trucks that have failed outside of Poland and are involved in ITS help, they have a bit worse situation than, for example, a German truck. This is the case for a visitor who in Eindhoven he works in ITS and deals with the failures of a Polish truck in the UK, is a misunderstanding. He can not translate often basic information like the place of failure, what is happening, and then we are looking for one hour because the address, for example does not exist.
    ITS, after receiving the request, redirects the order to the British DAFaid, which only deals with the coordination of daf brands that have failures in the UK. DAFaid during the working hours of the website calls the service and gives an order to reach the damaged truck and repair it .If it is after working hours of the service (eg at night), then - if on a given day, I have a "phone call" - call me on a mobile phone and give details of failures to me. I'm not always in the service for the whole night , only normally at home, only that I return home after work with a utility van with basic parts and tools, and with a telephone, which dafaid can just call. And so I'm on the phone until the morning when I go to work. all weekend - Monday to 7 am I'm on the phone.
    And as for the payment for on-call, my company pays me; no DAFaid or ITS. For the same vigilance, regardless of whether it is a call or not, it set a fixed rate, moreover, in the case of a call, I paid extra for the mere fact of calling (fixed rate) + double the hourly rate, depending on how much time I spent on dafaidzie (counted from the moment of leaving until returning home).
    generally it's DAFaid's worth - if it was not worth it, angolos would not take the shit, would they?
    Now is generally quiet, one-two calls for the night. One before credit crunch a few years ago, normalká was to have 6 and more summons at the time of the campaign.
    DAFaid does and British trucks and ITS, regardless of nationality. Everything on the road spoils and has a DAF inscription on the hood, goes as a request to DAFaidu. I was sometimes in call center DAFaidu, I know their operators in person. from the call center is near my service, in Bescott. Picture of duuuzá rooms, full of computers with tables, and with them always some 15 people with headphones on. They are always always there during some telephone conversation. Is it with a mechanic or a driver - accept the request, whether with some home dealer, someone from ITS, etc., etc. Rescue service in Warsaw is a bedroom compared to what is at the DAFaidu headquarters. It really does impress. I have a training in the field of DAFaid procedures I was listening to all these conversations with the operators. In addition, the daughter of one of the telephone operators is my secret lover and I know from her how it all looks "from the inside"

    Check the link on Facebook for the rest:
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=33621773977
  • #7 9293015
    cas50
    Level 11  
    thanks krisbrumm, you're a guy with us now the boss took these ITs, he pays terribly 100 euros for vigilance from Friday to Friday plus every trip 150% for an hour of horrible half-life with this taxman will take. All week, write with your phone, even for a longer walk you will not go. Good with every 5 weeks
  • #8 9293232
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    why do not you go for a longer walk? You have an hour to get to the car? What are you going to do? I normally live with dafaid, I normally do shopping, I go where I want, without panic. The only inconvenience is that even the brownie can not be shot and it is always necessary to have this phone and PDA at hand. Having DAFaid even for parties , New Year's Eve, etc. In case of summons, I always had a second outfit + a suit in a van.
    On the one hand, how I call it is good, because I have an original excuse to leave the house, and how quickly I fall with DAFaid, it will also blow up her butt to any of my lovers :D
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  • #9 9293264
    saron22
    Trucks specialist
    krisbrumm I fell in love with :D pozdr
  • #10 9322260
    ozi4590
    Level 10  
    Welcome back. I managed to eradicate almost all errors, only this configuration was left. The car is burning, only this configuration error has been made. He was a professional with a computer, he only said that he does not know what may be the cause of the error. I would like to ask you, dear forum members, whether this error may be caused by the installation being unbuttoned.
  • #11 9322421
    DanRS
    Level 15  
    Drivers all come from this car or was something changed?
  • #12 9323296
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    and what computer did you have? Did not do the CAN network diagnosis ??? it does not reach me, which may mean that a guest has a computer, he knows himself, and can not use the computer and find what is.
    Check ALL FUSES AND RELAYS !!!
  • #13 9331675
    miszagrom
    Level 21  
    Unfortunately, the visit of the "error eraser" to no avail. I do not reach :) but what's left to enjoy is that competition is getting weaker ... :) owners are only sorry about the failure.
  • #14 9335098
    ozi4590
    Level 10  
    all drivers remained original. Everything connected 100% as it was, (no cubes could be changed because each one was described).
    I do not know if this has anything to do but the same problem jumped out in the second car after the insert and only this one mistake.
    Fuses and relays all checked.
  • #15 9335191
    cas50
    Level 11  
    according to me, check if all controllers have the same chassis number, so VIC, UPEC or DMCI, Immobilizer, Astronic and BBM, if you do not reprogramme, you need Davie, just check for error information because you wrote that it's English
  • #16 9335354
    miszagrom
    Level 21  
    Gentlemen, I propose to go back to the beginning of the topic and read again Krisbrumm's post. Computer diagnostics are needed.
  • #17 9335506
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    cas50 wrote:
    according to me, check if all controllers have the same chassis number, so VIC, UPEC or DMCI, Immobilizer, Astronic and BBM, if you do not reprogramme, you need Davie, just check for error information because you wrote that this is english


    The language in which davie gives errors (eg English) is not the language in which the ECU throws out mistakes, but on what language DAVIE is set. All one from where there is a truck, it may even be from China, but DAVIE will display it in that language, in which it is set. Just like a mobile phone which has a language on the menu, although it is imported from Spain.
    The Configuration Error is generated by VIC, which is somehow the interface of most CAN buses, i.e. most of the more important CAN networks coincide with VIC (V-CAN 1, V-CAN 2, I-CAN, D-CAN). If it sees in some mistake, including throws this Config. error.
    But from what I see, the magician with the computer could not find anything in the VIC. In this case, you have to do a CAN message test and CAN connection status test.
  • #18 9335796
    saron22
    Trucks specialist
    and it is not so that you have to reprogram some vehicle driver due to the fact that the vehicle with RHD has become LHD ?? as in the example, in the Actros the rear fog lamp in RHD is on the right side and in the LHD on the left ?? I just wonder how VIC would "know" that the driver with the passenger changed places
  • #19 9336153
    krisbrumm
    DAF Trucks specialist
    there is no difference whether it is left or right tooker, the software in VIC does not depend on where the steering wheel is. In DAF, the fog lamp is in both rear lamps.
    We are obviously dealing with a human error consisting in not joining or connecting incompatible with the pragmatics of interference in the CAN.ECU and softy buses, they have nothing to do here.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a configuration error (red) encountered in a DAF CF 85.450 Automat, where the engine spins but does not ignite. Various potential causes are explored, including issues with the CAN network, driver inconsistencies, and the need for proper diagnostics. Participants emphasize the importance of checking all fuses, relays, and ensuring that all controllers have matching chassis numbers. The VIC (Vehicle Interface Controller) is identified as a critical component that may generate the configuration error if it detects discrepancies in the CAN bus communication. A suggestion is made to perform a CAN message test and check the CAN connection status to diagnose the issue effectively.
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