Skyrocketing Electricity Bill at PLN 1000, Up from PLN 600: Possible Reasons for 1900 kWh Usage?

Question

Hello and welcome, I have a terrible problem, namely: this month I received a huge electricity bill in the amount of PLN 1000, forecast PLN 600, consumption 1900 kilowatt hours. No one can help me and no one has any idea where this wear and tear comes from. Previous consumption was in the range...

Hucul · Answer

List all electrical devices in your home and their wattage.

Szopka3004 · Answer

well, I intend to do it this way, but it is simply impossible that my consumption increased by 1500 kilowatt hours for no reason, and I will add that the previous meter reading was only 119 kilowatt hours, and I had an overpayment and even if they somehow compensated for that month, I should pay about PLN 400 in the worst case, not 1000.

stanislaw1954 · Answer

Hello.
The main question: is it a single-family house, where no one can "additionally" connect, or an apartment, where a kind neighbor "borrows"?
Second, how long is the fee? (consumption), what receivers? More data!

Szopka3004 · Answer

single-family house, power meter. I live in a house with my in-laws, they have a separate meter for their apartment, I have the following receivers: - fridge-freezer, dishwasher, microwave, gas-electric stove, automatic machine, computer, TV, I have halogen lights in the bedroom, two of them will turn on for about 3 hours a day fluorescent lamps on the farm, I also have a grinder that is turned on for about an hour once a week and I turn on the heater for about 30 minutes while bathing the baby. All this gave me a consumption for 6 months back 500-600 kWh. The last bill is for the period 01/27/11-22/03/11

stanislaw1954 · Answer

It turns out that it is about 30 kWh per day. In the previous period it was about 3 kWh per day. What are you heating the water with?

Szopka3004 · Answer

I have water from central central heating. I don't know where to look for the reason myself, I'm afraid that such things may happen to me in the future and it will be much higher bills. I have already called a friend of an electrician, but he found nothing and claims that the meter also rotates correctly.

stanislaw1954 · Answer

I suggest writing off the counter. Even now. Then tomorrow (maybe at a similar time) and see what the daily consumption will be. You can optionally save what was turned on (energy-consuming) additionally. Can something be inferred from this?
Regards.

Szopka3004 · Answer

Well, that's what I'm doing and I'm going to do it all month, I'll file a complaint, let them replace this meter, but I need to find the reason thanks for the answers

stanislaw1954 · Answer

Hello . And what type is this meter (maybe it was changed recently). please enter a symbol.

W.P. · Answer

Not long ago it was possible to buy (usually on an electronic exchange) strong neodymium magnets.
In the seller's opinion, they were supposed to falsify the measurement of the electricity meter.
Of course, for the so-called "wipe away" a cunning seller displayed these magnets on a large sheet of paper with the inscription "Keep away from meters, magnetic cards, etc" which was an obvious suggestion of destiny.

People bought with the hope of lowering their household bills.

The thing is that if we have an induction meter (old type) it has a magnet in it - which can be seen with the naked eye. It is there to be able to calibrate the counter.
It plays a role brake dynamic. Properly set and locked, it gives us a readable constant of the counter, e.g. 375 rev/KWh (and not, for example, 397.36 rev/KWh).

However, it is enough to apply a (many times stronger) magnet to it to effectively demagnetize the brake. The consequences are easy to guess.

I'm not suggesting anything, but maybe it's worth approaching the problem from this side?

Szopka3004 · Answer

Well, this is the second time I hear such an opinion, the electrician who was at my place and checked the meter also asked me if nothing was combined at the meter, whether we did not use a magnet. I will say briefly NO, something like this has never occurred to me, I'm just afraid of this type of scheming, and if I did something like that, you don't need to be a specialist in this field to not guess that such a thing can damage the meter. Then I wouldn't bother anyone, just meekly curled tail and I wouldn't even complain. So I have a question, is it possible that some other source, not such a magnet, could damage the counter. I will add that my meters are outside the building locked in a box.

MarekzRz · Answer

I suggest checking the meter reading carefully, whether there was an erroneous reading of the value with the shift of the KW decimal point

Szopka3004 · Answer

The meter readings were already checked by everyone, as soon as the collector issued such a bill, he checked it twice, then the husband, father-in-law and electrician. Everything is correct. It gives all the markings I found on the meter, sorry, but I don't know it so I give what it says. Type C52d, 120 rpm 50Hz 3x220/380V. I found out in the energy sector that this year the meter is to be replaced because I already have the old one.

Regos · Answer

I've read on the internet about a few similar cases with counters. Electricity consumption increased twelve times. It turned out to be the meter's fault. One thing was even on TV. Some shop had electricity consumption so high that it was physically impossible for the line and the meter itself. Perhaps they reduced their bill for that period to the average for other periods.

taniam · Answer

Damage to the meter is possible, but I am interested in whether the electrician carefully checked the installation. I have encountered cases of increased wear as a result of damage to the insulation of the wires. Admittedly, the increase was not that significant, but it is still worth considering such a reason.

stanislaw1954 · Answer

This counter is an old fashioned traditional one. You can see how fast the disc spins under normal load. It shouldn't be too soon.

LBN41 · Answer

You can also ask a friend electrician to insert a submeter on the power supply after the energy meter and compare the indications. It will be known whether the meter or the installation.

stanislaw1954 · Answer

Hello . After a day > how many kWh charged?

Szopka3004 · Answer

10 kWh, today I turned on the dishwasher twice, the automatic twice, normal use at home and a concrete mixer was used for some time, so the reading is probably ok, right??

stanislaw1954 · Answer

I think 10 kWh is acceptable. With such consumption, a month would be 300 kWh. And it would still be almost 3 times what the previous period!!!! 21:11)

Szopka3004 · Answer

I'm losing my mind what could be the reason, I read similar cases on the internet and everywhere they suggest that it was the neodymium magnet and the power industry that still punished people for illegal consumption. We have never had any magnet, and the previous period was underestimated because it is only 119 kWh and normally we have about 500 as there are a lot of things being done on the farm. Do you have any ideas what could be wrong?? Please, don't suggest this magnet to me again.

Samuraj · Answer

There is no electric underfloor heating in the building?
If the indications now coincide with those that are actual, I would conclude that the meter is good. If it was damaged, it would inflate further, it cannot be that it overestimated itself for some time and now it has repaired itself.
Maybe someone left a farel on in the basement or garage.

I used to be afraid of such a case myself and I have a submeter connected and a computer reading. By this combination, I have history one year back every minute.
I can check what the consumption was in any period of time, even without being at home.

stanislaw1954 · Answer

I suggest you observe a few more days and report to the power industry that according to your observations, the consumption agrees with what the meter counts. Maybe the abacus jumped?
You can request a meter check .
I had a case where in a house that was not inhabited over the winter, the meter "turned up" several dozen kilowatts. They came, connected a large reception. After a few minutes, the reading. The download showed correct. It turned out that the counter is spinning when there is no intake. The fault was>>>>> changing the phases on the power supply (when they changed the connection from bare cables to AsX in the fall.
The complaint was accepted. Energy consumption was taken from the same periods of the previous year.

Szopka3004 · Answer

I filed a complaint and asked for an expert opinion on the meter. I am writing not for the first time that nothing like a left farelka, water heating, apartment heating or short-circuit took place. Maybe it's actually an abacus? It's just strange that he first lowered the consumption and then drastically increased it. I read on the net that this is a classic case of using a magnet, but nothing like this happened to me.

slawod · Answer

In the case of excessive consumption of electricity, first of all, disconnect all receivers that are in the rooms connected to all sockets and electric lighting and then check whether the electricity meter will charge anything. If the meter shows electricity consumption in such a case, it is absolutely necessary to measure the insulation resistance of the electrical installation. If it does not show energy consumption, you should switch on individual loads one by one (including lighting), observe the meter, turn it off and go to check the next receiver. In this way, you can locate which device is showing excessive energy consumption.
Returning to the measurement of the insulation resistance of the installation, I had the following case:
a friend noticed too much energy consumption calculated by the electricity meter in a given billing period, the bill was at least 2.5 times higher than in previous periods. What was the reason: It's hard to believe, but with all the receivers in the house and garage turned off, on one of the circuits, the clamp-on ammeter showed a current of about 16 A. The measurement led me to the installation in the garage. There was an old fuse board with fuses. When touching the fuse heads with your hand, one of them was hot. I checked once again that all receivers, including the lighting in the garage, are turned off. Current measurement with a clamp ammeter on the hot head circuit showed a current of 16 A. I pulled the fuse and checked the insulation resistance of the circuit with a megohmmeter (inductor). It showed almost "zero". I also measured with an ohmmeter whether the circuit under test has a short circuit. The ohmmeter showed that there is none. I screwed the fuse back in and rechecked the circuit current with a clamp ammeter - 16A. The fuse was also at 16A. The only diagnosis was the leakage current on the poor insulation of the circuit, which was 16A and only heated the wall. Something like an undesirable heating cable that only affects the depletion of the wallet. Since my friend did not care about a fully operational installation in the garage, I disconnected the circuit and the electricity meter readings returned to the state from previous billing periods.
My example can only show how important the condition of the electrical installation and its measurements are from time to time.

dziurb · Answer

I will add a question to this, what kind of 3-phase meter is it ... there used to be so-called Romanians who resisted changing the sequence of phases or lack of a phase (e.g. renovation of the power grid, switching the power supply circuits) horribly cheated up to 65% to the disadvantage of the recipient ... whether it was the C52a model or already from electronic ones ... if the abacus jumped, I doubt will there be a trace...

grawerg-d · Answer

Same thing with me. My monthly energy consumption is about 600 kWh. In the month of August, it charged me 6,500 kWh. Nothing in the house consumed so much energy at 100%. The only thing I suspect is damage to the meter during the storms that went through at that time, there was no electricity for four days, broken lines to my and my neighbor's property. I ordered a meter test and I'm waiting. what do you think, there could have been some short circuit in the meter during the storm, during which the lines were broken 100 meters from my house?

Adela97 · Answer

As this story ended, I have a similar problem. The meter gave me a consumption of 6,000, that's how much I used during the previous year, the bill was PLN 7,500. The meter was checked by a tauron representative, he claims it is good. You think it may be broken, it makes sense to send it for an expert opinion, please help.

stanislaw1954 · Answer

And what steps have you taken to make sure that you do not have illegal consumption by a neighbor, electricity leakage in a faulty installation, or a device that constantly consumes electricity?

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