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Vaillant VUW PL 240-3: Blinking Hourglass LED, Central & Hot Water Heating Issues

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  • #1 9317219
    davidoff90
    Level 10  
    Hello ! I have a problem with Villant, namely, when I want to turn on the central or hot water, the water heats up but turns off and the hourglass LED starts blinking. Please help !
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  • #2 9317267
    vadglebov
    Level 10  
    Call the service, service to wash men service heat exchanger knows what it takes delat.Ya sorry for my polish language.
  • #3 9317279
    davidoff90
    Level 10  
    It can be clearer because I do not understand? which heat exchanger?
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  • #4 9317369
    vadglebov
    Level 10  
    Need to wash the boiler heat exchanger, acidic solution. Service men know how to do it. Call the service. I can't do anything myself.

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    What is the heat exchanger, where is the water heating boiler.
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  • #6 9317678
    bzzyk 55
    Level 12  
    Hello
    This "hourglass" means that the gas regulator is started, sucks gas and tries to ignite, if it lights up, there is a "flame" on the left side of the display, if there is no ignition, the "hourglass" goes out and in a moment it lights up again, i.e. the ignition process is repeated, several times no ignition and the boiler should break down, signaling with an error code.
    The most common reason for this is the lack of gas. I would advise you to check if it is.
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  • #7 9319264
    1Qmaty
    Level 19  
    Do not look for the display, because this boiler does not have it.
    Symptoms indicate disturbance in the water cycle, but not necessarily.
    Common causes:
    1.stones - decalcify the primary exchanger (heater) and preferably at the same time the secondary exchanger (cw),
    2.damaged temperature sensor.
    3. Dirty or worn pump, pressure too low. water co
    4.incorrect power - several possibilities,
    5. electronics damaged
  • #8 9319868
    davidoff90
    Level 10  
    My uncle was at my place and he told me that the pump was most likely the cause. From what he told me it is dear, although I do not know if there are any substitutes? Does anyone know or can it be repaired?
  • #9 9320376
    Maureli73
    Level 15  
    Welcome,

    blinking hourglass this is nothing but the famous F.22 - many service technicians have broken their teeth on this error - it is not so obvious to diagnose as it seems. Everything that was written above is of course true - the reasons can be very simple (lack of water in the boiler, too low starting power, dirty exchanger, too low flow of heating water, etc.). Try, but only for a moment, to disconnect the earth from the boiler and see if it helps. The whole problem is that there are two temperature sensors on the supply and return of the primary exchanger and each of them is connected to the electronics with only one wire. The other pole of these sensors is the weight of the boiler. The difference of potentials between the protective zero and the gas or water installation distorts the readings of these sensors and, as a result, the error is signaled as F.22 for boilers with a display or blinking hourglass for boilers without display. The solution to the situation is proper grounding of all installations (gas, water and heating) or the use of a separating transformer.
  • #10 11365989
    life27
    Level 15  
    My dear, I have a problem with the aforementioned stove.
    As it is before the season, I decided to prepare it, clean it and remove sediment from the heater (vinegar bath). After the stove was assembled and tested, it worked flawlessly. After a few days, however, he saw it working properly and protested.

    The defect is that the stove turns on for about 5 - 10 seconds on a small flame, then turns off and after some time tries to start again. In the meantime, the indicator lamp (hourglass) according to the service center starts flashing - "no water". The system pressure is over 1.5 bar, the system is deaerated.

    Sometimes it happens that it starts and goes longer and turns on with all (set) power, but it's a lottery (and it shouldn't be like that)

    A few decent years ago the stove was deprived of a three-way valve (it is used only for CO), since then there were no problems with it now. Please help

    stove model: Vaillant VUW PL 240-3

    thanks in advance
  • #11 11367887
    calorserwis.pl
    Level 11  
    Maureli73 wrote what needs to be done. It's the cheapest to start. If it fails, check the pump. If it's a VUW 240-3 with no other additives (R1 etc) then I think it's at least 10 years old. The pump may have worn out.
  • #12 11367966
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    Check the supply voltage, such a jumping 210-240V will be able to do something like this, the best for this boiler is constantly 240V. Check that the earthing system should be disconnected for one day, because the phenomenon of ground loops may occur. Unfortunately, it is not so simple to hear it in acoustics.
  • #13 11368134
    life27
    Level 15  
    the ground was disconnected, it is disconnected now as well. The stove is about 10 years old. what does it mean that the pump could wear out? walks, you can hear that he still has strength.

    little update: it no longer happens that it starts up and comes longer. the flame is turned on for 5-10 seconds and turned off, the pump works all the time during this time ...
  • #14 11369357
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    Hyma, maybe the original bug was activated, i.e. as it was designed for f22 :D , I would recommend cleaning the exchanger (s), the tidal water is best rinsed and treated with citric acid, the main one would need a professional service.
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    #16 11370813
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    Unfortunately, it is implemented by two temperature probes, the operation of this algorithm may be affected by the following things:
    - power supply, grounding.
    - pump efficiency
    - cleanliness of the circuit, i.e. no limescale clogs and cleanliness of the filter.
    - when the main heat exchanger becomes stony, it hisses like a boiling kettle. (black graphite sediment, for example)
    - damage to the ntc probe or cable, electronics.

    Does the boiler react identically to domestic hot water and what?
  • #17 11371004
    life27
    Level 15  
    dziubek102 wrote:
    Unfortunately, it is implemented by two temperature probes, the operation of this algorithm may be affected by the following things:
    - power supply, grounding.
    - pump efficiency
    - cleanliness of the circuit, i.e. no limescale clogs and cleanliness of the filter.
    - when the main heat exchanger becomes stony, it hisses like a boiling kettle. (black graphite sediment, for example)
    - damage to the ntc probe or cable, electronics.

    Does the boiler react identically to domestic hot water and what?


    the boiler only serves as a central heating, has the three-way valve removed and is open only to the central heating circuit, the domestic hot water circuit is disconnected
  • #18 11371807
    dziubek102
    Heating systems specialist
    Make sure that the filters are clean and the heating circuit is open, check the rotation of the pump under the air vent, maybe there is no start-up. Some water will fly so secure the electronics.
  • #19 11374532
    life27
    Level 15  
    Ok, my dear, the problem is solved, it was not without a service technician from Vaillant ...
    The temperature sensor at the water inlet to the heater was duplicated.
    Thanks to everyone for your help.
  • #20 14444796
    Nann
    Level 9  
    Old Vaillant stoves do not always have to be replaced with new ones, sometimes a simple cleaning is enough and they are still operational. In my VUW 182 (242, 282) oven, there was a problem with the flashing diode - hourglass, i.e. the message: no water.
    The stove, after turning off the central heating heating by a wall switch or manually, did not turn on again - neither for central heating nor domestic hot water. The problem was the microswitch, whose copper tube with an internal diameter of about 2 mm clogged with time at both ends, at the entrance to the water assembly of the microswitch and at the entrance to the 3-way valve - both places marked with a red arrow. When the pump is standing, the white microswitch lever should be down and against the red microswitch housing, when the pump turns on, the differential pressure raises the lever about 5mm. A clogged tube means that the lever either does not raise or lower properly when needed and the microswitch sends a signal that something is wrong with the pump and the electronics is blocking the stove.
    Cleaning the copper tube itself is easy, because after removing the pins, you can pull it out by hand. However, the holes that the tube enters, i.e. the body of the water micro switch assembly and the body of the 3-way valve at the other end of the tube, may also be blocked. Then it is necessary to disassemble both elements and clean their interior. This can be done as follows.

    remove the electric power plug from the socket.
    we turn off the gas valve
    we turn off the valve on the return flow
    we turn off both service valves on the central heating input / output
    we turn off the supply of cold water to the stove
    we drain the water from the stove
    remove the pins of the copper tube on the microswitch and the 3d valve
    we take out the tube, clean it
    we take out the microswitch, unscrew 3 screws, clean
    we disassemble the pump (3 bolts)
    remove the bearing plate for the pump connection
    remove the cotter pin from the 3d valve and pull the pressure indicator wire out by hand
    unscrew the fastening of the central heating return on the valve 3 d
    unscrew the 3 screws securing the 3d valve to the water assembly and clean it.

    When assembling the 3d valve back, I recommend that you especially check the matching of the 3d valve needle with the lever of the DHW microswitch below the valve, on the water unit (not to be confused with the pump microswitch, described above). After refilling water, the stove should run for many more years. Vaillant VUW PL 240-3: Blinking Hourglass LED, Central & Hot Water Heating Issues Vaillant VUW PL 240-3: Blinking Hourglass LED, Central & Hot Water Heating Issues

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues with the Vaillant VUW PL 240-3 boiler, specifically related to a blinking hourglass LED indicating heating problems for central and hot water. Users suggest that the blinking hourglass signifies ignition failures, often due to gas supply issues or faults in the heating system. Common causes identified include a dirty heat exchanger, low water pressure, malfunctioning temperature sensors, and pump inefficiencies. Recommendations include cleaning the heat exchanger, checking the gas supply, and ensuring proper electrical grounding. A service technician's intervention was ultimately required to resolve a duplicated temperature sensor issue.
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