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PC Continuous Operation: 24/7, 365 Days a Year - Official Guidelines & Adaptability Factors

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  • #31 9677707
    Alana
    Level 37  
    I have a similar thing, in the server I went down with the processor clock frequency "as much as possible".
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    #32 9677722
    anu
    Level 17  
    My 3 cents on:
    "Should I turn off my computer so that it does not wear out, etc."

    Here it is like this:
    => Hard drives.
    Overall, parking, stopping, warming up and cooling down the drive is not the most fun for him. The drive prefers to be turned on once and walk 1000 hours rather than turned on 1000 times in just one hour.
    Only that the impact of this is PRACTICALLY MINIMUM.
    It is much more important to ensure zero shock for the drive and its good cooling [some companies have / had hot plates in the HDD, which above 55'C sometimes do a "snap" and the drive no longer reports in the BIOS].

    Regarding the HDD, screw it to the housing with all screws and ensure proper ventilation of the housing [airflow, ie minimum fan at the back and a gap at the front of the housing].
    When necessary, you CAN [and for practical reasons] turn off programmatically [not with a plug-in] and it will be OK.
    I see. I do NOT recommend turning the disc when not needed.

    Note: Do NOT use any soundproofing of the disk based on placing it in a foam casing. Heats up and damages faster.

    => Other components.
    Here, the working time and working temperature are practically important. Of course, there is such a thing as mechanical stresses due to heating / cooling, but in my opinion it's best to just keep the temperatures low enough. We will then gain longer computer operation time and slight temperature differences. Simple air cooling will do [NOT water or miracles].

    => Power
    Adequate power supply is essential today. Computers are drawing more and more electricity and companies are cutting costs. I would also recommend having a good power supply. It is worth reading here and there which companies have good power supplies. There is also a black list of power supplies on Elektroda and a lot of topics on this subject.
    When choosing a power supply, the following should be considered:
    => quality of workmanship [information about a given company] - this is a very important factor. NOT always a branded company stands for the best super hyper power supply. [here perhaps some Chieftec models are a good example; you can find cheaper power supplies not inferior]
    => appropriate maximum power [it is better to have a few watts more, but NEVER buy "butt joint"]
    => saving money: it is worth having a power supply with an ACTIVE PFC and preferably with a signet> 80% efficiency. The more fitness the better. The cost of the power supply should pay off after several months / years of intensive use.

    I would like to add that my computer had ModeCom 350W and now in another thread I am asking which capacitors I should replace xD I will add that Modecom itself started to smoke more and more after a few years when the computer was stand-by [turned off]. I don't think you need to write what would have happened if I hadn't been home.

    Cheap power supplies are NOT the best.

    => Overclocking
    It is NOT recommended to overclock a computer that has a stable running time of 24/7/365 / x years.
    This is very good for extracting FPS in games and where we can supervise the computer.

    => Prolishness
    Today's computers no longer consume 60W, but from 200W to even 400W and more.
    So it's a good idea to turn Hibernate on and off from time to time. After Hibernation, our programs will be available again.
    If we want to leave it for> 20 minutes, it is worth turning off the monitor or the whole thing.

    If we have any servers, all the pros and cons have to be considered individually.

    If someone goes only with low power consumption, then only Atom CPU laptops. They charge 30W. Only that laptops are more difficult to repair / upgrade [you will not put in a new graphics or music card, or even 3 disks there].

    => UPS. Power cuts.
    There are 2 things here. The power industry can fund surges for us, but the strip can fund us to lower the current. Even a weak plug can do a misfortune.
    The slats are OK, but you need to be smart. Let others comment on the subject of varistors [if they have not already done so].

    For purists: Even a normal fuse has a certain resistance, so it also GREATLY lowers the voltage and increases the resistance of the cable.

    UPS. NOTE: When we have an active PFC power supply, our UPS MUST give an EXACT SINUSOID !!! APPROXIMATE is NOT good!
    The UPS MUST have adequate power. Note on VA and W. The difference between them is similar to the difference between GB and GiB.

    => Components.
    If the computer is to be the ONLY Linux server, IMHO is NOT worth loading a GeForce 9800GTS card there. You can lower the processor clock speed, but it is not always 100% successful. [I had to "slide" down to 50% due to the bulging capacitors and sometimes my computer does not get up right away; although after commissioning it is extremely stable] Nevertheless, it is a good method to extend the service life.

    => Testing
    It is worth using a good cooling system, make sure that there is air flow, check the computer's temperature. There are CPU Stress Test programs [turn on AFTER cooling is OK]. You can turn them on and monitor the temperature. Then it will be known what the "worst case" is.
    In general, the cooler the better. [but also without exaggeration; below + 5'C fear is booting the hard drive] If it is OK for a week, it can be considered OK ;-)


    In general, a computer is a collection of different devices, and each has different requirements. [e.g. disk vs CPU]. The most important information is above, although the topic is almost endless. Overall, it's a good power supply, cool in the housing, not overloading the system [eg. combine with OC] and not "throw / knock" the computer [especially when it is on]. So some power supply, good cooling and not to go crazy [turn off less often than every 20 minutes] ;-) .

    Let me just add that by leaving the computer turned on for the whole day / night and still connected to the Internet, you should also think about its protection against malicious people [viruses, firewalls]. Often times, good network configuration and good habits are helpful. Often, viruses can generate BSODs and other crap in Windows, although the hardware is OK.

    Good luck!
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    #33 9677946
    Yarec
    Level 15  
    Hello.
    Regarding the lifetime and failure rate of computers, please compare the design of the PRO server and the "home" PC - a colossal difference (prices too).
    The design of the average PC comes from the XT / AT times and is duplicated (with minor changes) to this day [horror]. Mostly a single power supply [no hot-swap] and draws heated air from the inside, the power supply itself in Stand-By mode is not cooled (and yet it works), the method of cooling the processors is also not better, in general, the HDDs do not have cooling [CSCI disks / 10 thousand. rpm in server / work station - obligatory], no inlet filters, etc. etc.
    And the increased working temperature accelerates the aging process . And computers on 2 or more XEONs, with software, e.g. R2, are really efficient and loaded with a dedicated [specialist], with HDD RAID matrices [the whole range], they work and cost well, because who will use the potential at home and for what: e.g. .board + 2x XEON quad core E3 + 8x 1MB RAM + 5x HDD 1TB + SDD 265 MB / RAID / + 2x Zas. + Hidden graphic accelerator + peripherals and casing (software omitted). So much from memory, google the data and prices, and this translates into reliability and durability.
    They often work non-stop [368 days / year :D ]
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    #34 9677983
    anu
    Level 17  
    It still depends on what the author of the topic wants to do on this mini / maxi-server. [???]

    I remember 486 people converting one floppy disk into routers and it was OK. ;-)

    Today's home computers are really fast and perfectly adequate for hobby purposes. Often the internet connection is the bottleneck.

    If you only have to upload a file to FTP once every 15 minutes, there is no point in charging yourself into costs.

    If, on the other hand, something REALLY bigger, then you need a piece of paper, a pencil and Google.

    In general, the realities are the same: cool in the kennel, good power supply and no unnecessary madness.

    I SEE. DO NOT LOAD THE COMPUTER UNDER THE DESK FROM THE MARKET WHERE IT IS BUILT UP WITH 4 or 5 SIDES !!!! [no cooling, only open front and 2 holes on the back - it's not cool for a PC]

    It is WORTH, however, to look at the solutions used in the computers presented by Forumowicz @Yarec . [e.g. 2 disks are 50'C? Bach them a 120mm fan and improve air-flow].

    If the author of the theme wants to have a super-server, then eg in Windows Server [quite expensive for home use only], before each switch-off you have to set by default WHY you want to switch it off. ;-) However, this is not related to the service life, but rather to the event log for the company. [server shutdown / failure is a huge cost for the company]

    BTW: These 368 days a year are probably some new marketing gimmick ;-)
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    #35 9678064
    Yarec
    Level 15  
    anu I didn't notice, you work on 2 or more threads on the electrode in parallel [super scalar?]. This underlining is not always preserved, and you don't have to wait long for the effects [on Sat. I took away a pile of and the "well burned-in" discs, even a new computer can be slaughtered - and (some) NON-STOP worked. This is my last statement [on this topic].
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    #36 9678201
    anu
    Level 17  
    You are absolutely right Yarec, but these are basic tips on how to do this.

    This is NOT an absolute guarantee.

    On the other hand, if the user does not follow them, the probability of the PC crashing prematurely is much higher.
    I suspect that the author just wants to avoid bad habits, so as not to accidentally "slaughter" his new PC.

    In addition, we still do not know what the author wants to face and whether he needs a scooter, wheelbarrow, toddler, combi, TIR or Hercules ...

    As for the theoretical answer, perhaps the most important basic things have already been said.

    @Yarec
    [super-scalar?] LOL. ;-) Not. Sunday and some interesting topics.
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    #37 9678272
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #38 9678907
    prosiaaczyna1234
    Level 13  
    The author of the topic, i.e. me ;) I just want to know ... or otherwise, for some of my friends, the PC works from the day of purchase without switching off for several months and I want to know if it can be done :)
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    #39 9678937
    daavid117
    Level 42  
    You rather meant whether it was more harmful for the equipment to turn it off at night than to work continuously. At least that's what you wrote before. Apart from the money spent on electricity, it's better to turn off the computer at night. One-time start-up each day will not cause any special wear and tear of the equipment - certainly not more than usual, and those 12 hours at night when the computer is running will certainly hurt him more than just starting it up once.
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    #40 9678994
    Yarec
    Level 15  
    daavid117 wrote:
    better to turn off the computer at night anyway.

    I also wrote about Stand-By, Yarec> # 33 (I omit the personalization of HDD settings).
  • #41 9678998
    prosiaaczyna1234
    Level 13  
    So in a word, it makes no difference to the computer
  • #42 9679005
    daavid117
    Level 42  
    It does, because all the voltages are constantly supplied to all components, so they wear out to some extent. It is better to turn off the computer at night and turn it off completely - by turning off the strip or disconnecting the strip from the power supply.
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    #43 9679013
    JacekP-bio
    Level 12  
    From experience, I don't know if this has any special effect on computer parts beyond the calculation. While there used to be a problem with fans and hard drives - this problem has not existed for several years. However, I know that in the room where the computer works, the air may be moist and warm. You may suffer from headaches, lack of drowsiness, and fatigue as a result - if the computer works in the same place as your bed. Of course, THIS IS for each person individual matters.

    The computer must have space and air to ventilate itself. It is worth ventilating such a room. However, I absolutely agree with UPS with a computer working around the clock. A fan on hard drives is also a good idea. I don't know why nobody touched it, but if the computer has access to the network, it may be worth blocking certain ports.

    The computer boots up, maybe two to three times as much watts in a minute, but that depends on pretty much everything on the computer.
  • #44 9679015
    Uzytkowinik19
    Level 38  
    You will also feel the differences in the wallet, ~ 12h even without burdening it is a lot.
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    #45 9679016
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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    #46 9679053
    Yarec
    Level 15  
    Regarding power voltage but probably not all of them, but [PWR - pin9] - what is spinning will turn and will turn [Moore's law]
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    #47 9679125
    Uzytkowinik19
    Level 38  
    JacekP-bio wrote:
    A fan on hard drives is also a good idea. I don't know why nobody touched it

    Forced air circulation in the case cools the drives well enough.
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    #48 9679134
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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    #49 9679250
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    The computer is basically electronics, so whether it works or not, the process of its degradation and wear begins with the departure of the components from the production line. The lifetime of today's CPUs is estimated at around 10 years of operation at normal operating temperature. Increasing the temperature results in a reduction in the durability of the system, and the reduction gives an increase in durability. From the more interesting things, it is a well-warmed up system, e.g. in the oven it rotated better, so it used to be today, I did not practice it today. With today's system density, it would rather not be advisable. As for the UPS, it only ensures that the power supply is kept from other things, it is unlikely to protect. I know from my own unpleasant experience of UPS APC and it is on-line anu about the fact that the power supply is necessarily with PFC, unfortunately I cannot agree without it, but you will not get one today.
  • #50 9679259
    prosiaaczyna1234
    Level 13  
    Yes, I have an answer thanks to everyone :) He helped give away so much for your interest in the topic ;)

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the viability of running PCs continuously for 24/7 operation. Participants share personal experiences, indicating that many computers can operate non-stop without significant issues, provided they are well-maintained. Concerns about wear and tear from power cycles versus continuous operation are debated, with many suggesting that turning off a computer can be more harmful due to thermal stress during startup. Key components like power supplies, fans, and hard drives are highlighted as critical to longevity, with recommendations for regular maintenance, such as cleaning and replacing capacitors. The consensus is that while consumer PCs are not specifically designed for continuous operation like servers, they can function effectively in such a capacity with proper care.
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