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A ball valve with a throttle and without, what is it all about?

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  • #1 9901487
    Szymon Tarnowski
    Level 27  
    Hello, I haven't found a better section in the forum so ask here.
    Can someone explain to me what is the difference between a ball valve in a version with a throttle and in a version without. At first, I associated it with a venturi or flange, but when I looked at the technical drawings, you can't see anything like that. However, they differ in the place where the axis of the ball passes through the body to the lever.
    Could someone confirm this and explain what are the advantages of both solutions, because both variants from the same manufacturers are on sale.
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    #2 9901526
    Wodnik-W8
    Level 17  
    Hello. Well the colleague noticed. This axle is sealed. Without a gland, the seal is not replaceable. With the gland, the seal is secured with a nut. It can be replaced or just tightened to remove the leak.
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    #3 9901538
    kaczmarj
    Level 24  
    It is about the way of sealing the ball axis. A valve with a gland has a nut under the handle of the knob, theoretically used to tighten the seal. In practice, it can be different and it is not worth investing in cheap ball valves. All of them have a poor service life and what is more important is the maximum working pressure, i.e. the determination of PN and the following number.
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  • #4 9901689
    Szymon Tarnowski
    Level 27  
    Thank you for the answer, I was curious about the fact that there are ball valves for PLN 7 and PLN 27, while the latter were usually written with a throttle.
    If those with a choke are better, why are they still produced without, for example VALVEX http://www.insbudwybrzeze.pl/view/365 the same parameters and warranty.
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  • #5 9901875
    Anonymous
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  • #6 9922156
    valdimazur
    Level 17  
    Hello. recently, when replacing ball valves, I found a moment and dismantled the old leaky valve (without a gland). Of course, they are dismantleable (regular right-hand threads). The leak was at the point of exit of the ball axis to the handle (i.e. under the closing handle), there are 2 o-rings that can be replaced and then surely for the valve to work. But that's not what I meant. The best thing about a leaking valve is its replacement, but sometimes there is a problem with how to remove the old one (a lot of desoldering, little space, difficult to access, etc.) and this was the case in my case, I have elegantly replaced 2 valves, and I managed to seal 4 less accessible valves without unscrewing them and without disassembling. The leak appeared under the handle, so I took the handle off, cleaned the leak (even descaled) and smeared with sealing paste, chose the appropriate o-ring, which I put on the protruding pin, a 1/2 "rubber seal and the handle and tightened it. So far, there is no droplet so it probably helped, just for how long :-) . Of course, it is best to replace the valve and insert a new, better one, but sometimes you can easily and cheaply reseal something. Below are photos of the valve. Maybe whoever it will help.

    A ball valve with a throttle and without, what is it all about? A ball valve with a throttle and without, what is it all about? A ball valve with a throttle and without, what is it all about? A ball valve with a throttle and without, what is it all about? A ball valve with a throttle and without, what is it all about?
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  • #7 15650728
    misiekk89
    Level 16  
    Does it matter with which side we connect the valve in the installation, in relation to the direction of liquid flow in the installation?
  • #8 15651813
    Zbigniew Rusek
    Level 38  
    Always connect the valve in the right direction (in the "valve open" position, the handle points to the rear). In some valves it may be significant, in some not. One thing is for sure important. Use valves for water for water, and valves for gas for gas. Gas valves have a yellow handle (lever), water valves - blue (cold water) or red (hot water).
  • #9 15654959
    mitsurugi
    Level 25  
    Zbigniew Rusek wrote:
    you should always connect the valve in the right direction (in the "valve open" position, the handle points to the rear). In some valves this may be significant, in some not. One thing is for sure important. Use valves for water for water, and valves for gas for gas. Gas valves have a yellow handle (lever), water valves - blue (cold water) or red (hot water).

    For gas, you can still find valves with black handles in old installations.
  • #10 15655196
    dobroslaw

    Level 22  
    These valves have a screwed body and I have encountered several times that due to stresses, especially in cold water, they broke on the twist side (cracks in the thread), so it's good to give the solid side of the valve on the side where in the event of a break it will be possible to close the damaged valve and cut off the pressure , for example, on the CO supply to the container, we put the solid side to the supply and the connected side to the container.

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the differences between ball valves with and without a throttle. A ball valve with a throttle features a gland that allows for the tightening or replacement of seals, enhancing its serviceability and potentially extending its lifespan. In contrast, valves without a gland have a fixed seal that is not replaceable, leading to more frequent leaks. Users noted that the price difference between these valves often leads to a preference for cheaper options, despite the latter's inferior quality and durability. The importance of proper installation direction and the distinction between valves for different media (water vs. gas) were also highlighted, emphasizing the need for appropriate valve selection based on application.
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