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16A Fuse for Apartment: Microwave, Kettle, LCD TV, Laptop, Fridge, Gas Stove & Washing Machine

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  • #1 10226456
    mboryna
    Level 11  
    Hello

    I have a question. I rent an apartment after an elderly lady and when, for example, I have a microwave + cordless kettle on, it breaks the plugs. I currently have two fuses: 6A for light and 10A for contacts. The question is is 16A enough?

    Block from around 60 ~ 70, aluminum installation, but I do not know the cross-section of the cables.
    The equipment is: LCD 32 "TV, laptop + speakers, refrigerator - these 4 things are always on. Additionally, from time to time a cordless kettle or microwave.

    I would like to add that today I purchased a gas stove (3.5kW power when using the oven) + a washing machine. Previously, there was no washing machine, and the gas stove was old, and the oven was not used by anyone.

    A friend of the electrician said that 16A is supposed to be enough, but I did not mention a washing machine and a gas stove. Can 20A be used? From what he told me, I probably have about 32A on the cage in front of the meter and he proposed to give 16A for light and 16A for contacts.

    I would like to add that, of course, I would like to use the equipment normally, so that nothing happens :)

    Is it possible to somehow calculate, for example, that a 16A fuse can withstand a load of, for example, 10kW?

    If so, I can provide more details.

    Thank you for your help
    best regards
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  • #2 10226480
    michalekk1
    Level 24  
    mboryna wrote:
    Can 20A be used? From what he told me, I probably have about 32A on the cage in front of the meter and he proposed to give 16A for light and 16A for contacts.

    Can not. You don't know anything about installation as you wrote yourself. You don't want a fire, do you?
  • #3 10226544
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    mboryna wrote:

    Is it possible to somehow calculate, for example, that a 16A fuse can withstand a load of, for example, 10kW?


    You can enumerate. Withstands 16 A x 230 V = 3.7 kW. And no more

    And fuses are there to protect. Increasing them leads to the fact that they do not protect and at some point the fuse will remain in your apartment.
    He will hold on, only the rest will burn.
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  • #4 10226627
    mboryna
    Level 11  
    So what should I do ? you can apply 16A as the guest gave me? he's an electrician, so I guess he knows
  • #5 10226680
    michalekk1
    Level 24  
    mboryna wrote:
    So what should I do ? you can apply 16A as the guest gave me? he's an electrician, so I guess he knows

    If you would also say what cables you want to protect with this, maybe we could give you a hint :)
  • #6 10226698
    fuutro
    Level 43  
    And he watched the installation in the apartment? If he said that, you are actually taking the risk.
    You can ask your neighbors what the situation looks like (with installation and security), but the security was not deliberately too sensitive, but optimal.
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  • #7 10226734
    mboryna
    Level 11  
    michalekk1 wrote:
    mboryna wrote:
    So what should I do ? you can apply 16A as the guest gave me? he's an electrician, so I guess he knows

    If you would also say what cables you want to protect with this, maybe we could give you a hint :)


    I have no idea, i.e. aluminum, I measured the thickness of the cord more or less in the toilet and it came out about ~ 2mm. I calculated the thickness when connected to the socket, so without this protective rubber on the aluminum cable.

    10A was once used when it was not known that there would be appliances such as cordless kettles and microwaves :)
  • #8 10226776
    fuutro
    Level 43  
    It would look 2.5mm ^ 2 so not too bad. Have a look at the sockets with the most power-hungry receivers.
  • #9 10226777
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #10 10226819
    mboryna
    Level 11  
    It is the same everywhere, it comes out approx ~ 1.5mm - 2mm. It's hard to measure this thickness exactly :)
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  • #12 10226849
    mboryna
    Level 11  
    measure by eye :) I have no other option at this time to measure the cable, unless I turn off the fuses, but then I will not see anything :)

    Added after 19 [minutes]:

    The guy was there a moment ago and he said that I should put in 16A, no more, because there is probably 20A or 32A on the cage. He said 16A would be enough and it shouldn't be a problem. And if it continues to break down plugs, you will have to run separate cables and a separate fuse.
  • #13 10227463
    retrofood
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    So you know everything, I close the topic.
    Just don't forget that you and your electrician are responsible for everything you do.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the adequacy of a 16A fuse for an apartment's electrical system, particularly in light of multiple high-power appliances being used simultaneously, including a microwave, cordless kettle, LCD TV, laptop, refrigerator, gas stove, and washing machine. The user reports frequent plug failures when using the microwave and kettle together. Responses emphasize the importance of not exceeding the rated capacity of the fuses, as doing so could lead to fire hazards. A suggestion is made to consult neighbors about their electrical setups and to consider the gauge of the existing aluminum wiring, which is estimated to be around 1.5mm to 2mm. Ultimately, the consensus leans towards using a 16A fuse, with a warning that if issues persist, separate circuits may be necessary.
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