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Create DIY Fire Pipe Effect: Firepower.pl Tutorial & Safety Tips [h] (89 characters)

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  • #31 1090448
    nikos4x4
    Level 12  
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    Hey gentlemen. In the good old days, when I was driving a Jeep Wrangler 4.0 hyhy on gasoline with a probe and slow exhaust here, how to fuck ..... it was fire and I did not need any village candle ........... .....



    People, and why are you doing this, after all, it is full of posing still, probably in a car with a 1.1i remus engine: sm28: that is (mass bang and nothing bad) and good dips on the manual hyhyh: sm28:


    greetings
    Nikos 1999 Toyota 4Runner 3.4V6 Supercharged 4x4
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  • #32 1092024
    waisik
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    No matter who does what without such comments, what counts is a good effect, I saw something like that on a saw in a mega combi with 2 exhausts.
  • #33 1092622
    Lodoo
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    you are a Cossack ... you better not speak up if you are so stupid to write ... your other posts like "lawn mower engine" and "more peasants will go for it" are pathetic. Just because you have a V6 doesn't make you a god, you're a moron and nothing will change that - not even your V6. Take it easy because what you write is pathetic ...

    RECALL:
    Can this flamer be fired when the car is running on LPG?
  • #34 1096672
    Śpiący
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    Rather, you can. As my father once put on his Peugeot 406 1.8 16v + LGP candles not adapted to gas (some idiot threw a rumor that it was like perfect candles), the car shot perfectly when it was gasped at low speed - the bang was such that people were leaving cars, shops, kiosks etc. see what happened :lol: That's why I think LPG would be even better :D
    You just have to be careful that the candle is as close as possible to the end of the exhaust; as if it burst the exhaust while driving, there is a good chance that the pipe will dig into the floor.

    The effect is generally interesting, it is interesting how the security would react if you were to let a fire from a pipe at a gas station :twisted:
  • #35 1096860
    lopr_pol
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    So many posts and no details :) . It is enough to look on the net, 100% of this "gadget" is based on an additional gas cylinder, a nozzle and an ignition magnet in the exhaust. Nobody shoots the mixture from the engine because it's a waste of equipment :) . At home, someone already asked: a 5kg tourist cylinder for the trunk, an LPG valve, some kind of coil, a candle screwed on the exhaust outlet, let the gas in before it, etc. And we have a flamethrower like in this stupid movie "Too fast .... ".
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  • #36 1097030
    wueska
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    there is another recipe called fast shaft, delayed ignition or such a thing as, for example, an ignition actuator on full gas, turn it off, wait 1 second and turn it on and go a nice fireball !!
  • #37 1100324
    Lodoo
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    yeah, only I don't want the shots, but the fire itself :) preferably without any noise :)
    and I certainly will not push a tourist cylinder - a bomb in the car connected to a hot exhaust - I am not happy about it :)
    the point is whether the fire is not sucked in on the gas in the exhaust gas and there is no fucking ... no. (because the gas will fly from the engine with air already)
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  • #38 1100474
    delma
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    Hehe, you don't suck into the engine because the exhaust gas creates pressure ... and moreover, often in cars there is an explosion in the manifold, and as for the cylinder, I would not be so afraid of gasoline because some cars have plastic tanks and the gas cylinder has 3mm of frubosci, so in case of an accident, the fuel will run out, but the gas will NOT! anyway, if you give the solenoid valve, it will suddenly cut off LPG and the problem is over
    greetings ........... if I'm wrong, correct me
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  • #39 1102439
    Lodoo
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    but I don't want to give any fuel or LPG to the exhaust, read from the beginning before you write back !!

    what has an accident to the life of the cylinder ??

    I am asking if it is possible to use a flamer while the engine is running on gas and this is the only thing that interests me now :)
  • #40 1103381
    Laskosz
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    As for LPG, there is no chance of an explosion because after the gas-air mixture is burned, there is not much left (water vapor and some), so with LPG and a candle at the end of the damper, it will probably not be effective. On the other hand, you have to brew on gas because I saw with my own eyes how the guy in the wrong moment turned the ignition back on and there was a big boom but the car did not start (the guest's heads were blew out). Such ideas are not safe for the engine, a much better solution seems to me to be a tourist cylinder in the trunk with a solenoid valve + a candle in the muffler, there will be fire and no shots, and it certainly will not suck it back into the pipe because the engine is working and exhaust gases are pushed out of the system exhaust.
  • #42 1103759
    prei
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    As far as I know, it's great in motorbikes. You turn the throttle to full throttle while turning the ignition off. The pistons suck in the mixture they push into the exhaust system. After a while, you turn on the ignition and the burning mixture, after leaving the cylinder, ignites the vapors in the muffler. Most cars, when the ignition is turned off, also cut off the fuel supply, so it may fail. greetings
  • #43 1104079
    Laskosz
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    Did you read this ?? "ATTENTION! Do not use the device when the engine speed is lower than 4,000 rpm, it may seriously damage the engine! I am not responsible for any damage caused by improper operation of the device!" In my opinion, this gas cylinder will be the best solution. Anyone else have any suggestions ?? I think I will do something like that myself :D
  • #44 1123720
    tuning323
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    hello, do not forget to go to the fire to remove the catalyst, this is probably one of the basics.
  • #45 1123757
    Śpiący
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    I only wonder how it will work with the use of a thyroid cylinder. It must be taken into account that in the case of gasoline fuel, the exhaust gas contains about 0.7% of oxygen, and even less with the catalyst; if you use candles on the very end of the exhaust, it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Someone has already done such an experiment :?:
  • #46 1123784
    jozefg
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    Yes, I read these posts and I wonder ...
    Often - especially in summer - of course, at night, such village spiers who shoot at a pipe pass through my estate. And they like the time of the night, between 23:00 and 2:00.
    Do you know what I want to do then? Get the dung behind the wheel and ... kick it!
    Don't you guys think at all ?? And this is supposed to be tuning? Tuning is tuning, not the devastation of the engine and poisoning the lives of others!
  • #47 1123863
    Laskosz
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    Heh, not everyone has to use it to shoot the ass under your close-up;]. And for the device, in the January GT there is a test and it is shown what this set consists of and how it should be mounted. If someone wants, I can present it on the forum.
  • #48 1123917
    ToLo84
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    on the Allegro they sell ready-made sets just for such shooting with exhaust fire;] and by the way, it feels slightly like something, associated with a broken toddler or other paddock;]
  • #49 1123958
    Anonymous
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  • #50 1124262
    ToLo84
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around creating a DIY fire pipe effect, inspired by the tutorial from firepower.pl. Users share various methods to achieve this effect, primarily involving the installation of a spark plug in the exhaust system, using an ignition coil, and manipulating the fuel mixture. Safety concerns are raised, with warnings about potential damage to the vehicle and the risks of fire hazards. Some participants recount personal experiences with similar setups, while others caution against the practice due to the potential for engine damage and legal issues. The conversation also touches on the use of LPG systems and the importance of maintaining a healthy exhaust system to prevent accidents.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Up to 1 200 °C exhaust spikes can occur when backfiring, and “a PLN 20 parts list is enough for basic flames” [P.Artek, #1073636]. DIY exhaust-flame mods ignite unburned fuel or added gas with a spark plug near the tailpipe. Why it matters: Fun visuals can wreck mufflers, trigger fines, or start fires, so builders need clear, safe guidance.

Quick Facts

• Typical DIY kit cost: PLN 20–150, depending on coil and switch quality [P.Artek, #1073636; Allegro listing, 1103734]. • Safe activation speed: >4 000 rpm to avoid engine kickback [Allegro spec via Laskosz, #1104079]. • Expect 5–15 cm flame length on stock 1.1 L engines; tuned motors can exceed 30 cm [melonik, #1077667]. • Muffler life can drop by 60 % after repeated white-heat cycles [Falco76, #1067605; SAE-2003-01-0985]. • Removing the catalytic converter is required for reliable ignition [tuning323, #1123720].

How does the exhaust-flame (fire pipe) trick actually work?

You create an over-rich mixture or inject extra fuel, route a high-voltage coil to a spark plug welded near the tailpipe, then momentarily cut engine ignition; the unburned fuel ignites at the plug and shoots flame outward [P.Artek, #1065948].

What parts do I need for the simplest DIY setup?

  1. Scrap ignition coil, 2. spark plug plus M14 bung, 3. toggle switch or relay, 4. 2–3 m high-temperature wire. Builders report spending “maximum PLN 20” for salvage components [P.Artek, #1073636].

Will it damage my muffler or engine?

Yes. Flames heat the silencer to white-hot; ruptured cans and detached pipes are common failures [Falco76, #1067605; marcinekmm, #1067578]. Continuous use can shorten muffler life by ~60 % (SAE-2003-01-0985).

Is the mod road-legal?

In most EU countries visible exhaust flames violate Regulation 661/2009; forum users report fines and compulsory inspections [Paszczak22, #1071353]. Check local vehicle codes before use.

Can I run a flamer while driving on LPG?

Yes. LPG’s richer hydrocarbon content actually produces louder bangs; one user on a Peugeot 406 observed repeated shots on gas [Śpiący, #1096672]. Keep the spark plug at the very tail to avoid pipe rupture.

Do I really have to remove the catalytic converter?

For gasoline cars, yes. The catalyst burns residual fuel upstream, leaving nothing to ignite, and can melt from backfires [tuning323, #1123720].

Is there a no-parts method to shoot flames?

Older carbureted engines can flame by briefly cutting ignition at high throttle: 1. Warm engine, 2. Rev high, 3. Switch ignition off for 1 s, then on. Noise is huge; flames may be invisible in daylight [Philip26, #1067616].

How do I wire the popular spark-plug method?

  1. Weld bung and install spark plug after last muffler.
  2. Run 12 V feed through dash switch to spare ignition coil; ground coil case.
  3. Connect coil HT lead to plug. Flip switch to divert engine coil power; flame appears. Edge case: engine stalls if coil power stays off >3 s [P.Artek, #1065948].

What about using a small camping LPG cylinder instead of engine fuel?

A trunk-mounted 5 kg cylinder, solenoid valve, copper line, and tailpipe spark gap give long, quiet flames without engine stress, but add 11–13 kg weight and crash risk [Laskosz, #1103381; lopr_pol, #1096860].

How long a flame can I expect from a 1.1 L engine?

Video evidence shows consistent 15 cm blue-orange plumes on a 1 100 cc Golf using the coil-and-plug setup [melonik, #1077667]. Larger turbos can top 50 cm, but require supplemental fuel (HKS FireStorm brochure).

What RPM is safe for activating the system?

Aftermarket kits warn against use below 4 000 rpm to prevent combustion re-entry into cylinders [Allegro spec via Laskosz, #1104079].

Could delayed ignition wreck cylinder heads?

Yes; mis-timed re-ignition blew head bolts out of a Fiat 126p when flames were ‘too good’ [P.Artek, #1068422]. As tuner Marcin says, “think whether you have money for a new silencer” [marcinekmm, #1067578].
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