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Deciphering the Meaning of Displayed Parameters on Pafal 16ec3gr Meter

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  • #1 10781743
    mag32
    Level 19  
    I managed to find some instructions here, but unfortunately it doesn't solve my problem.
    This counter displays the following parameters all the time, but I don't know what they mean, although I guess. Another question, can it be parameterized to display other parameters?

    Here are the displayed parameter sequences read today

    Quote:
    000 - 70313034 (meter number)
    022 - 01_ C12A (fare C12, A, presumably now is A, what does 01 mean?)
    091 - 000249 (don't know)
    092 - 000101 (don't know)
    1581 - 033513.2 (current registered consumption in tariff A?)
    1581 - 033455.5 (previous recorded consumption in tariff A?)
    1582 - 038591.0 (current registered consumption in tariff B?)
    1582 - 038356.3 (previous recorded consumption in tariff B?)
    1560 - 04.517 (don't know)
    1560 - 05.136 (don't know)


    and that's all it displays, and what else can and how to set it and who can do it if possible?
    In addition, the battery symbol on the LCD is constantly flashing, is there a battery inside that has discharged?

    Interestingly, on another Landis Gyr+ meter, the four-quadrant markings are slightly different.

    Quote:
    000 - 93934331 (active power meter number)
    C10 - 93934331 (reactive power counter number?)
    FF - 01000000
    022 - C22b
    327 - 232.7
    527 - 233.4
    727 - 232.5
    091 - 07:14:33 (hmmss)
    092 - 12-04-03 (yymmdd)
    160 - 01.583
    (direction of quadrant arrows ^> or v>)
    181 - 04872.493 ^>
    181 - 04872.493 v>
    182 - 00926.887 ^>
    182 - 00926.887 v>
    180 - 05799.380 ^>
    581 - 03814.041 ^>
    582 - 00306.568 v>
    580 - 03490.609 >
    880 - 00001.401 ^>
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    #2 10782401
    =Grzegorz=
    Level 25  
    0.0.0 - meter serial number
    0.9.1 - current clock time
    0.9.2 - current date
    15.8.0 - total energy
    15.8.1 - total energy in zone A
    15.8.2 - total energy in zone B
    15.8.3 - total energy in zone C
    15.8.4 - total energy in zone D
    15.6.0 - maximum power of the current period
    15.36 - number of max power exceedances in the current period
    15.2.0 - maximum cumulated power
    0.9.1 + DA - closing time of the previous period
    0.9.2 + DA - closing date of the previous period
    15.8.0 + DA - total energy in the previous period
    15.8.1 + DA - total energy of zone A in the previous period
    15.8.2 + DA - total energy of zone B in the previous period
    15.8.3 + DA - total energy zone C in the previous period
    15.8.4 + DA - total energy of zone D in the previous period
    15.6.0 + DA - maximum power of the previous period
    15.36 + DA - number of max power exceedances in the previous period
    0.1.0 - number of closed accounting periods
    0.2.0 - counter program version
    0.2.2 - tariff name


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    and what else can and how to set it


    Not much else can be set in PAFALACH


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    and who can do it if possible?


    ZE using the KomPaf program to parameterize the meters


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    In addition, the battery symbol on the LCD is constantly flashing, is there a battery inside that has discharged?


    YES, everything points to a faulty back-up battery





    Quote:
    Interestingly, on another Landis Gyr+ meter, the four-quadrant markings are slightly different.


    It is based on OBIS codes, it is the same but LANDIS is a different company and has other greater possibilities, e.g. you already have passive (5.8.1) capacitive (8.8.1), momentary voltages, FF is an error code. You can put a lot on the display in Landis :)
  • #3 10785520
    mag32
    Level 19  
    great, thank you very much, you helped a lot.
    I will ask something else, namely, why in PAFAL there are codes 1581, 1582 and 1560 with different values twice in a row?

    1581 - 033513.2
    1581 - 033455.5
    1582 - 038591.0
    1582 - 038356.3
    1560 - 04.517
    1560 - 05.136

    1560 is the maximum power of the current period, and in what units and how is it calculated?
    Maximum power recorded or consumed?
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    #4 10785876
    karolq
    Level 22  
    You have 15.8.1 and 15.8.2 twice and it should be 15.8.1.1 , 15.8.1.2 , 15.8.2.1 , 15.8.2.2 only there is not enough space for so many digits of the obis code. The first value is the current month in zone A, the second value is the current month in zone B. The next values are closed fiscal periods in zones A and B, respectively.

    15.6.0 maximum power calculated in kW, calculated every 15 minutes and only incrementally, i.e. if the power value in the 15-minute interval exceeds the value from the previous interval, then the indicator is updated. After closing the accounting period, the max power indicator is reset and the process is repeated until the next closing.
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  • #5 10786038
    mag32
    Level 19  
    i.e. I understand that it is 15.6.0.1 - 4.517 kW the maximum value of the current billing period and in the previous 15.6.0.2 the highest recorded value was 5.136kW

    Is the cos fi (tg fi) calculated value somehow displayed with OBIS codes?
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  • #6 10786130
    =Grzegorz=
    Level 25  
    mag32 wrote:
    i.e. I understand that it is 15.6.0.1 - 4.517 kW the maximum value of the current billing period and in the previous 15.6.0.2 the highest recorded value was 5.136kW

    Is the cos fi (tg fi) calculated value somehow displayed with OBIS codes?


    15.6.0.1 is the archival power factor from the previous period 15.6.0.2 is similarly 2 settlement periods back

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    I will ask something else, namely, why in PAFAL there are codes 1581, 1582 and 1560 with different values twice in a row?


    occur 2x, but one of them has the `DA' flag lit, i.e. the value from the closure of the billing period - i.e. the states that latched at the time of closing the period for which the counter is programmed

    in the 16EC3rn meters, these archival markings are slightly different: there is no DA, there is only an example

    15.8.0 current state (total counter)
    15.8.0.1 state from closing 1 OR back
    15.8.0.2 state from closure 2 OR back
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    1560 is the maximum power of the current period, and in what units and how is it calculated?
    Maximum power recorded or consumed?



    15.6.0 is the current power rating
    15.6.0.1 or 15.6.0 'DA is the power factor of the previous OR (billing period)
  • #7 10786300
    mag32
    Level 19  
    OK, but on this second Landis Gyr+ the markings are different.

    000 - 93934331 Counter number
    C10 - 93934331 Counter number
    FF - 01000000 Error code
    022 - C22b Tariff
    327 - 232.7 L1 voltage ?
    527 - 233.4 L2 Voltage ?
    727 - 232.5 L3 voltage ?
    091 - 07:14:33 (hmmss)
    092 - 12-04-03 (yymmdd)
    160 - 01.583
    (direction of quadrant arrows ^> or v>)
    181 - 04872.493 ^>
    181 - 04872.493 v>
    182 - 00926.887 ^>
    182 - 00926.887 v>
    180 - 05799.380 ^>
    580 - 03490.609 >
    581 - 03814.041 ^> Passive inductive ?
    582 - 00306.568 v>
    880 - 00001.401 ^>

    Some I know, others I don't.
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    #8 10786500
    =Grzegorz=
    Level 25  
    Yes, the voltages L1 L2 L3
    I started to post instructions here for 16Ec3gr and Landis, but somewhere it got stuck or someone deleted it:?
    5.8.1 is reactive induction 1 tariff
    5.8.0 is the passive SUM of 1 and 2
    similarly 8.8.0 capacitive SUM
    FF is the error code 01000000 no battery

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around understanding the displayed parameters on the Pafal 16ec3gr meter, including their meanings and the possibility of parameterization. Key parameters include total energy, maximum power, and various energy zones, with specific OBIS codes provided for reference. Users inquire about the flashing battery symbol, indicating a potential battery issue, and compare the Pafal meter's readings with those from a Landis Gyr+ meter, noting differences in displayed codes and values. Clarifications are provided regarding the calculation of maximum power and the significance of the 'DA' flag in archival data. A full list of OBIS codes is also mentioned as a helpful resource.
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