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Soften Old Rubber Hose: Techniques for Restoring Fuel Tank & Filler Flexibility

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  • #1 1162524
    Władysław O
    Level 14  
    I have to remove the fuel tank and there is a flexible rubber hose connecting it
    tank with a fuel filler. The problem is that the hose has lost its flexibility, and I am concerned that it will not be damaged during disassembly or
    assembly. Maybe someone from the group has their own ways. I heard that
    hot water helps.
    Regards
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  • #2 1162875
    sieger
    Level 24  
    Shouldn't it be replaced with a new one then? Yes for your own safety.
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  • #3 1163218
    guciioo
    Level 16  
    It is best to do this with a knife because such a broken rubber can be very dangerous. But if the rubber is ok, just heat it up a bit with warm air.
  • #4 1163239
    wzagra
    Level 33  
    in my opinion - old rubber is only a knife and garbage ... unfortunately, it can break at the least appropriate moment ... and when you try to remove it, it will definitely break ..
  • #5 1163336
    robert chyl
    Level 11  
    As for that, pour kerosene on the rubber, it softens the rubber the most. Then, without fear, take off the snare.
  • #6 1163350
    pelek
    Level 20  
    no matter how you download it, it still needs to be replaced
  • #7 1163410
    Władysław O
    Level 14  
    If you knew how much this gum costs, I don't think one of you
    to think about him, to take a knife in his hand.
    The problem is that it's pressed tight.
    Regards.
  • #8 1163459
    guciioo
    Level 16  
    It's better to tell how much it costs or what car it's for and I'll tell you how much such rubber costs. And when it comes to softening, I would rather not recommend kerosene because it can permanently change the structure of the rubber!!!!!!!!!! And if it's cracked, just replace it!
  • #9 1163623
    Stefanek1
    Level 26  
    Hello.
    As the author writes, the rubber is between the tank and the fuel filler, so it is improved, oil-resistant and probably reinforced.
    Pouring kerosene will do nothing, or even heating it "God forbid" next to the fuel tank, I would not recommend it, because it can be a big bummm .... :sm11: :sm11: :sm11:
    There are many inexpensive hoses, ridiculously profiled and you can definitely steal something if the original is sooooo expensive.
    Tell me what car is this???
    Regards
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  • #11 1164252
    silvvester
    Level 25  
    maybe glycerin
    it only takes a while but it is suitable for some genres,
    I used glycerin to preserve the rubber at work to make it flexible.
    like something you can buy at a pharmacy.
  • #12 1164646
    mazurpiotrek
    Level 12  
    you can try it maybe it will help!!
  • #13 1164674
    cymbi
    Level 27  
    Or how much will it cost you to buy a new car? How much will your life cost you? Does this interconnect cost so much money that it exceeds the cost of living? If this does not convince you, use NOVOGUM.
  • #14 1164904
    Stefanek1
    Level 26  
    I fully agree with the previous post, what about the author of the post?
    Regards
  • #15 1165149
    Władysław O
    Level 14  
    There is no urgency with this disassembly and therefore this post.
    As for the explosion, it is diesel and HE is not so explosive.
    This rubber joint is 150mm long, 45mm in diameter and has the shape of an accordion
    you can buy it only on the website price PLN 200 with a hook, judge for yourself if it is expensive.
    Regards.
  • #16 1166075
    Stefanek1
    Level 26  
    And if so, what car is it???
    Regards
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  • #17 1170579
    virus_lx
    Level 17  
    If I were you, I'd try hot water or hot air, glycerin or kerosene, I wouldn't bother.
    Regards
  • #18 19075365
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    There are different types of rubber recently with a flashlight from China I had a rubber plug covering the switch. Pressing it was very tedious, because the rubber became hard, in my case THINNER for cellulose products RC-01 helped. After 30 minutes, the rubber became very soft and there was no problem with turning on the flashlight. 0.5 l costs about PLN 12. I also use this agent to clean PCBs from toner during thermal transfer and to clean deep dirt on plastics.




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  • #19 19608829
    kruk203
    Level 11  
    Old topic, but maybe you can tell me how to effectively soften rubber gaskets. They come from an old car and are hardened and shrunk.
    Kerosene or glycerin a good idea?
  • #20 19608873
    vorlog
    Level 40  
    Silicone oil, but don't expect them to be like new.
    V
  • #21 19608992
    kruk203
    Level 11  
    I haven't heard of that. is it safe?
  • #22 19609025
    vorlog
    Level 40  
    And what is sold and recommended as a maintenance agent for car door seals, especially in the winter?
    Even the popular Plak for the cockpit is enough.
    V
  • #23 19609051
    kruk203
    Level 11  
    Silicone improves elasticity a bit, but not much, and you still need to restore the original dimensions. Old rubber shrinks.
  • #24 19609244
    vorlog
    Level 40  
    On a certain forum, the guys mentioned "dechamiowanie" around the window seals in the car door-
    - descaling with W5 from Lidl link
    - polishing with any rubber-claener
    - smear with tire dressing several times
    The rubber is supposed to regain its softness, appearance ... As for the "swelling" to the denomination, I do not know :)
    Maybe it's worth practicing on a patient, how old the car and parts for it in the original are difficult to buy?
    V
  • #25 19609378
    kruk203
    Level 11  
    Not so old E24 from 1987 but some of the seals are hard to come by. Not older 2800 from 1970 is waiting...
  • #26 19609387
    vorlog
    Level 40  
    Well, it's not young either - I have W190 / W201 from the same year, there are also problems with similar elements - it's good to practice with the above method :)
    V
  • #27 19609654
    kruk203
    Level 11  
    I'll try and let you know.
  • #28 19609694
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    I searched and it turns out that rubber is not equal to rubber, so the most important thing is to identify the material that each of us comes into contact with. The complexity of the chemical compounds from which these types of products are made is quite significant, which is why it is so important to find out about the type of material that we want to make more flexible, regenerate, etc. Such experiments at random will give some people the intended results, while others can worsen or even irreversibly damage a given material .

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    Small correction about:

    gradek83 wrote:
    in my case THINNER for cellulose products RC-01 helped. After 30 minutes the gum became very soft


    Everything above is correct, except that after the solvent has evaporated, the rubber changed its state to as hard as plastic, and when pressed harder, it cracked and crumbled. I was forced to replace the element with a new one because the rubber part from a glass pipette bought for pennies in a pharmacy was scratched.
  • #29 19609715
    vorlog
    Level 40  
    Here we combine with seals, especially (I think) with those on which the window moves when raising and lowering - after years they are stiff as hell, hard too.
    Silicone oil, applied many times, soaks into the rubber and softens it quite permanently, but here the type of rubber is quite special, mainly hard ...
    V
  • #30 19609767
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    vorlog wrote:
    Here we combine with seals, especially (I think) with those on which the window moves when raising and lowering - after years they are stiff as hell, hard too.
    Over time, technological processes have probably changed, what was used in old vehicles today can be said to be historic, as is certainly not the case with modern solutions. Now, from what I remember, apart from the rubber seal between the glass and the door body, etc., you can see a strip of hair attached to the rubber, I don't know what it's technically called, I know that the fluff is probably arranged to some extent when lifting the lowering so as to limit the access of water drops to center of the door and help reduce the friction of the glass against the rubber itself. In the old Seicento, I sometimes had a problem with wrapping the glass, which dragged the seal inside and blocked the glass, or simply the glass squeaked against the rubber, and when I tried to move the glass back up with the seal, it either came out or deformed and deformed. Probably the wiping of the aforementioned suede hairs had some influence on it. Such a gasket seems to me that it should be soft only on the longitudinal edge of contact with the glass, and the rest should be stiff enough to maintain the line of contact with the glass
    One way or another, in fact, for older models of this type of parts, they are practically no longer produced and it remains to combine and look for other solutions.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around techniques for restoring the flexibility of an old rubber hose connecting a fuel tank to a filler. Users express concerns about the safety and practicality of using old hoses, suggesting that replacement is often the best option. Various methods for softening the rubber are proposed, including heating with warm air, using glycerin, and applying kerosene, although caution is advised regarding the potential for kerosene to alter the rubber's structure. Some participants emphasize the importance of knowing the specific vehicle model to assess the cost of replacement parts, while others share experiences with different rubber treatments. The conversation highlights the balance between cost-saving measures and safety considerations in automotive maintenance.
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