Hyundai i30 1.6 CRDI: Locating Immobilizer Device, ECU Pins 47 & 19, Ignition Switch Clamp

Hello,
I have a problem because the computer crashes the immo error and I can't find the device.
There are 2 wires coming from the ECU on pins 47 and 19, but unfortunately there is no one under the steering column or I'm blind. The clamp on the ignition switch is there but I am looking for an immo driver. can you help? The car has been in an accident, so you can suspect that the cables that go to it have broken.

Regards

Nobody removed the immo from this model? can someone help plssss.

After all, there is 12 cm of wire from the loop to the box!!!

Well, loop loop, but the loop must go to the immo setter module, which only connects to the ECU, and I can't find it. I have error P1690 Immobilizer-Smartra No Response. Generally, either the module is whacked or the cables went somewhere sooner because the car was crashed. On the other hand, it's not strange because the immo indicator is not lit (I don't know if it should), the indicator itself works because I can turn it on and off on the diagnostic.

Immo boc is right above the driver's feet if I remember correctly. Loop is a common fault but I had the keys themselves loose. Try other keys first. What kind of diagnostic equipment do you have? When programming keys, keep them separate and away from the cabin. You can use the code for emergency start. The code is 2345.

I do diagnostics on Delphi DS150e. I will look as you say above the driver's legs of this module, but if so, it means that I am blind. Do you mean above the clutch and brake or implicitly above the legs in the sense of somewhere above the knees?

rgrosiak wrote:

Do you mean above the clutch and brake or implicitly above the legs in the sense of somewhere above the knees?

Where does your loop wire go? Just don't say you haven't found the other end.

I don't remember exactly where the immo box is. in santa fe he was knee high. maybe the i30 is behind the board. But I've never had any problems with the box. it was always a key or a loop.

what errors in the immo, what in the engine?

Error in the ECU P1690, i.e. immo, there is no connection with the immo itself, so I bet on broken or broken wires after the accident. Of course I didn't find the other end, otherwise I wouldn't be making a post
From the loop, it enters a thick beam deep under the board and the hell it even knows if it turns left or right later, but rather to the right, i.e. as if it was going somewhere behind the heaters, well, some kind of massacre to get there, that's why I asked because maybe I'll disassemble half the board and it will turn out it's somewhere else entirely.

In general, this car is a mess when it comes to the diagram, I have a paper diagram and PINs in the ECU for the immo do not coincide with the Vivid Workshop diagram at all.

And did you diagnose AirBag, what did it show?

I'm telling you it's on the steering column and it's about 12cm from the loop.
Is it different for you?

Here it is.

Gentlemen,
for me it looks like this, unfortunately it's probably a new model (2011) because it's different and there is no immo in this place, there is only a fan, the devil knows why, in this place where in the second photo you can see a round check.



And where the hell is the immo in this car, I have the impression that I will have to dismantle the entire dashboard and search for the cable. Maybe someone has a current GDS to check?

cabin temperature sensor.

immo box look higher and closer to the bulkhead, under the dashboard.

No, I even took out the clocks.

Added after 1 [hours] 15 [minutes]:

Under this link you can see what the immo looks like, but here are some 2 devices I see in this picture.
http://allegro.pl/komputer-stacyjka-immo-key-zegary-i30-hyundai-i2824770021.html

Added after 26 [minutes]:

fuelinyourblood, do you know from autopsy or shooting that it should be there? because I'm already losing inspiration for this immo search.

I worked in Hyundai, I never changed the box in the i30. Several times in Santa Fe and in The Matrix. Once in the i30 I checked the harness and had to remove the clocks and the steering column. Search and you will find.

Phew, thanks fuelinyourblood, it seems you were right, you had to remove the steering column, otherwise it was invisible. Thank you again. The best thing is that it has nothing to do with the appearance of those who sell on allegro.

Using the time window, I have just determined the lack of immo power. Fortunately, after giving power to the car, it finally fired up. I just don't know why there is no power. Anyone have a schematic for this model?
As far as I know, the standard power supply to the immo always comes from the clocks, but if it is really so, I do not see the point in disassembling the brand new clocks to fix it, because it is better to connect this power supply from another point, but maybe I am wrong. If there was a diagram, everything would be clear because the diagram from the vivid workshop is a mockery.

rgrosiak wrote:

it is better to connect this power supply from another point

Of course.

Gentlemen,
does anyone have a starter circuit diagram for this model i30?

Regards

what do you have on the relay in the box under the hood?

Below is a photo of the box under the hood. The missing relay is from the starter, I just short it and turn it on, I had to check the immo repair, but the problem is that:

1. Relay control - one wire to ground and the other wire (gray) - well, someone had to rummage because it goes to this buła cube, but in the PIN which is empty at all, so of course it can't work. Where should this cable go? On the diagnostics on Delphi, when I try to start the starter relay, of course, it throws an error - open circuit, and everything is correct, but I can't figure out where it should go yet.



Added after 4 [hours] 35 [minutes]:

A small correction, one of the relay control wires goes to the ECU on pin68, while the gray one does not know where it should go.

Added after 2 [hours] 3 [minutes]:

I found PIN52 which controls 12V. Except that when combined with PIN68 it gives 8v. These 2 pins according to Vivis Workshop are for controlling the starter module.
OK, 8V is not enough, so I connect PIN 68 to ground, and 52 then controls the starter relay, but .... it's just a modification, it seems to work, but it throws the error P0617 Starter relay - circuit high, because somewhere along the way it probably there are some other modules, for example, neutral gear, speed, etc., Ignition lock, etc. Something is wrong, unfortunately without a good diagram or help, I can look for wind :/

This i30 has ISG?
because there are different schemes.

Well, I guess it has because the ISG button is there but it is always OFF. That's why I'm looking for a schematic of the ISG and the starter module.

everything in ecu

you have a sword on the transmitter
30+
86 key switch power supply or "50"
85 mass from ecu
87 starter

fuelinyourblood that's more or less what I did, the ecu actually connects the mass to pin 68, so the other end can go to the plus, it doesn't have to go to the ignition, and so later the ecu recognizes, for example, engine revolutions and does not allow the starter to start.

And it works for me, but at the end I have an ISG that doesn't work, so I'm looking for a diagram.

Added after 1 [hours] 44 [minutes]:

rob4028, you gave me hope that you have this schematic, please contact me

The ISG is at the helm of the engine. For start/stop to work, you must meet the appropriate conditions.

The battery is charged, the engine is warm, the air conditioning does not work, the CPF does not regenerate, the doors are closed, etc., etc. When you put the car back together, drop the clamp for a moment, disconnect the ECU plug and the battery sensor. Remember that the battery must be for the ISG system. You put it together, delete errors from the steering sensor, leave the ignition on for a few hours. Maybe an hour is enough. You start, drive and test.

Hmm, it may actually not work because I have a few things not put together.
What's the deal with the fact that the battery has to be for the ISG? what is the battery sensor?

So far, thanks anyway.

google yourself

the startstop system requires special batteries.

Hello. I have the same problem as the guy in the first post.
I get error P1690 which is encoded in the engine controller and immo. Will guide me where to look for the immo module in 1.6 crdi 2008?
I will add that the key on the dash is permanently lit (regardless of whether the ignition is on/off), but I noticed once that the indicator light was glowing when the ignition was off, then it went out with the ignition on and the car started.
I do not know where to look for the immo and I do not have a diagram to check any power supply. Will help mtoś with the immo and engine diagram?

Fault removed by finding the Immo module which is attached to the upper part of the steering column, resoldering the contacts (there were cold February). The car is assembled, checked, starts every time I hope he doesn't come back to this bug again