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  • #1 11669578
    litostrotos
    Level 2  
    Hello,
    I guess that's a lame question, but I'm a lame :)
    - does charging the device with a charger with a higher rated current than the original (dedicated) charger risk damaging the device?

    To be more specific - I have an eye on a wall charger with a USB output, which has an output voltage of 5V, current .. 2.1A. Can I use it to charge a kindle, whose original charger has 5V and 850mA?
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  • #2 11669705
    agent8888
    Level 13  
    You can use it, but as you write yourself, it has a higher current. At a voltage of 5V, one gives a maximum of 2.1 A and the next 850 mA

    The use of such a charger will not damage the device, but will shorten the life of the batteries.
  • #3 11669910
    marek216
    Level 43  
    agent8888 wrote:
    At a voltage of 5V, one gives a maximum of 2.1 A and the next 850 mA

    The use of such a charger will not damage the device, but will shorten the life of the batteries.


    You will give me the source of this folk wisdom :?:
  • #4 11669937
    agent8888
    Level 13  
    marek216 - and what you don't like about my statement?
    The markings on the device say unequivocally - 5V 850mA - i.e. you always have 5V until you connect a device that has a current demand greater than 850mA.

    Above this current the voltage drops !!!!!!!!!!

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    and if you think that having a 5V 2000mA power supply and a 5V 500mA power supply - you will charge the batteries in the same time without any consequences (for the cells) then .... good luck.
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  • #5 11670109
    marek216
    Level 43  
    Move the head :!:

    A more powerful charger will not damage the cells, because the system in the device is responsible for the current and thus the charging time :!:

    A more powerful charger will allow you to charge the cells in the optimal time without overheating the charger itself.
  • #6 11670146
    agent8888
    Level 13  
    not every device has a charging system - in most cases, the charger itself is responsible for it ...
  • #7 11670210
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #8 11671348
    marek216
    Level 43  
    agent8888 wrote:
    not every device has a charging system - in most cases, the charger itself is responsible for it ...


    Again, I ask you to provide the source of your wisdom because such nonsense has not been in this section for a long time.
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  • #9 11671361
    DwoMa
    Level 14  
    Buddy agent8888.
    In the case of having two voltage sources with a different value of the nominal current, then receiver this source is connected to it is responsible for the current flow through it. If you used a charger with a lower current before, and now it will be with a higher current, nothing bad will happen to the device. The current from the more powerful charger will be taken the same as from the weaker one, but as mentioned by the brand 216, the charger will heat up less.
  • #10 11671367
    litostrotos
    Level 2  
    Thank you for your comments, gentlemen.
    Maybe I will add my 3 grolsche.
    I mean this:
    - current intensity depends on voltage (5V) and resistance - device (Ohm's law). In both cases they are the same and the amperage should be the same. In such a situation, the rated current of the charger would be something of a "high limit" that could possibly be reached if the connected device pulls so much.

    But I asked a question because relying on my "peasant reasoning" seems risky to me. For example, there may be an internal resistance of the charger (impedance) which may prevent some "overcharge / overheating" when using this lower current charger. And I would not like to destroy the device.

    I think that speculation based on "folk wisdom" is not enough for us here, I am counting on someone who simply knows :)
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  • #11 11671436
    koala106
    Level 39  
    The current supplied on the charger should in theory correspond to the charger performance - that is, the maximum current that can be taken from the charger to the device without harm to the charger, the fact that it will have a higher efficiency does not bother you in any way.
  • #12 11671439
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    It was already - but I will repeat - practically all mobile electronic devices have a built-in charge controller and it manages the process. It selects the currents so as not to overheat the cells. Of course, when the cells are not heated, it gives the cells more current and in some cases a "more efficient" charger may shorten the charging time.
    This applies to "intelligent" devices with complex energy management chips - primitive devices usually have a current limitation - but this device still decides what current is drawn from the charger.
  • #13 11671950
    litostrotos
    Level 2  
    Why, then, are chargers with a low current, e.g. 500 mA, produced at all? For questionable material savings? Because yes, it would be a simple rule for the buyer - the more mA, the better, and the weak ones would be forced out of the market ...
  • #14 11671969
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    Because this is exactly enough. A compromise between production costs, i.e. the price, and the average charging current and charging time.
    You also need to remember about the "maximum charging current" for the cells depending on the design and capacity - it's not that if you have 2A at your disposal, this will be the charging current - this current will be limited by the temperature and the "maximum charging current" (often pulsed through a complicated algorithm) - so in practice, 500mA will flow from your two-amp charger anyway. However, when the device has a "reserve" of battery capacity (e.g. sufficiently high capacity) and at the same time the temperature is low, the controller may "want" to increase the charging current - only it must have this reserve of current on its power supply - on a classic charger (e.g. this 500mA) will not pick up and load with "what is".
  • #15 11672015
    koala106
    Level 39  
    It's very simple - those with higher efficiency cost more - where it is not justified they are used cheaper - accountants rule the world - and every penny with the millionth scale of loader production matters.
  • #16 13923550
    majakpl
    Level 2  
    Hello,
    I have a question on 2 sides.
    Can I charge the router with a weaker charger, namely 5V / 0.7A,
    and should it be 5V / 1A?
  • #17 13923671
    marek216
    Level 43  
    majakpl wrote:
    Can I charge the router with a weaker charger, namely 5V / 0.7A,
    and should it be 5V / 1A?


    If turned off, it will take longer to charge, but will charge.
    Not necessarily when it is switched on - it depends on the power demand of the device during operation.
  • #18 16314994
    mariuszp19
    Level 35  
    An analogous situation is described in post # 16 and # 17.

Topic summary

Charging a device with a charger that has a higher current rating than the original charger is generally safe, as modern devices typically have built-in charging control systems that manage the current drawn from the charger. For example, using a 5V, 2.1A charger to charge a Kindle that originally uses a 5V, 850mA charger will not damage the device, as the device will only draw the current it requires. However, using a charger with a significantly higher current rating may lead to reduced battery lifespan over time. The discussion also highlights that lower-rated chargers exist for cost and efficiency reasons, and that the charging current is ultimately limited by the device's internal charging circuitry.
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