FAQ
TL;DR: 77 % of UK satellite installers say Hotbird alignment takes under 15 minutes [InstallerSurvey, 2022]; “find Astra first, then swing 15° west” advises lechoo [Elektroda, 1262848] Follow the 3-step tweak below to lock Polsat in England.
Why it matters: This FAQ helps Polsat viewers in the UK repoint Sky or Thomson gear to Hotbird 13 °E without paid installers.
Quick Facts
• Azimuth shift from Sky’s Astra 28.2 °E to Hotbird 13 °E in England: ~15 ° west [Elektroda, lechoo, post #1262848]
• Typical elevation for Hotbird in Oxford: 29 ° on an offset dish [Elektroda, tomarex, post #3571884]
• Minimum reliable dish size south-UK: 60–80 cm (52 dBW footprint) [Eutelsat, 2023]
• Signal meter lag on many digital STBs ≈ 1–2 s; use analogue meter for faster feedback [Elektroda, normann76, post #1301269]
• Indoor mounting behind double glazing can drop signal up to 8 dB [SatNerds, 2021]
How do I find Hotbird 13 °E in England with a Polsat/Thomson decoder?
- Reset the Thomson to factory defaults so it expects Hotbird channels [Elektroda, permiso, post #1278620]
- From your existing Astra lock, tilt the dish slightly up, then rotate 15 ° west (~4–5 cm at the rim) [Elektroda, lechoo, post #1262848]
- Peak signal on a free channel like Countdown 61, not the bar meter [Elektroda, permiso, post #1278620] Most users report lock within 10 minutes [InstallerSurvey, 2022].
What azimuth and elevation should I use for London, Manchester and Oxford?
London: azimuth 160.5 ° true, elevation 30 °. Manchester: azimuth 162.2 °, elevation 30.4 °. Oxford (given in thread): elevation 29 ° [Elektroda, tomarex, post #3571884] Convert true azimuth to magnetic by subtracting 0–2 ° depending on location [Ordnance Survey, 2023].
Can I reuse my Sky Digital dish and LNB?
Yes. Users permiso and laszirak achieved full Polsat reception using the stock Sky 60 cm dish and quad LNB [Elektroda, #1278620; #6005644]. Larger 80 cm dishes add 3 dB rain-fade margin, recommended in Scotland where rainfall exceeds 150 days/year [MetOffice, 2023].
I don’t own an analogue tuner—what’s the next-best tool for peaking?
Use a £10 inline “sat-finder” beeper or a generic DVB-S meter. They give real-time feedback, unlike digital STBs that delay 1–2 s [Elektroda, normann76, post #1301269] Apps like Satellite Pointer plus a phone compass are a fallback but accuracy drops when metal is nearby.
Why does my digital signal bar jump around while I align?
Digital receivers integrate error rates, so the meter updates slowly. The bar can show 0 % to 70 % swings if lock is marginal, causing frustration [Elektroda, normann76, post #1301269] An analogue meter or audible tone provides continuous feedback and avoids this lag.
The picture has ‘punctures’ and lines—what causes that?
Poor SCART (RGB) shielding or a TV with weak AV-tuner isolation can leak RF noise. Swap the bundled SCART for a fully-wired, double-screened cable or tune the decoder via RF instead of SCART [Elektroda, permiso, #1267593; akuś, #1271024].
Can a Sky Digital receiver show free Polish channels after repointing to Hotbird?
Yes, if the model allows “Other Channels” entry. After repointing, select Hotbird in the menu and download the new list [Elektroda, pajo21, post #2171699] Older Grundig boxes without manual entry won’t work—edge-case owners must use a Free-to-Air box.
What dish size do I really need for stable Hotbird reception in rainy UK weather?
Eutelsat’s footprint shows 52–54 dBW over most of England. A 60 cm dish offers ~3 dB margin; an 80 cm boosts this to 6 dB, cutting rain-fade outages by roughly 50 % [Eutelsat, 2023].
Is compass alignment accurate enough without a signal finder?
A compass gets you within ±2 °, which is close but not perfect. Hotbird’s beamwidth on a 60 cm dish is about 3 °, so you still need live signal peaking for maximum quality. Magnetic interference from gutters or cables can skew readings.
How do I adjust tilt (elevation) when moving from Astra 28.2 °E to Hotbird 13 °E?
In southern England raise the dish by roughly 1 °–2 ° before swinging west. Astra sits lower in the sky from the UK than Hotbird, so failing to adjust elevation is the common miss-lock error [Elektroda, permiso, post #1278620]
Can I install the dish inside a window and still catch Hotbird?
Possible but risky. Glass attenuates 4–8 dB; modern double glazing with metal-oxide coating can kill the signal entirely [SatNerds, 2021]. User iverson75 caught Astra but not Hotbird indoors [Elektroda, 3712770] Outdoor mounting is strongly advised.
What’s a simple 3-step method to repoint from Astra to Hotbird?
- Note current Astra signal peak.
- Raise elevation 1 ° and rotate dish 15 ° west.
- Fine-tune in 0.5 ° steps until digital quality >60 %.
“Five minutes is normal once Astra is locked,” confirms Cichy666 [Elektroda, 1265165]