"do you drive little or a lot? a) little is futura centers - Futura 53Ah battery b) there are many plus centers - the Accumulator Centra Plus 54Ah "
And I wanted to buy a fur, but in the store, the guy looking at my opel astre II 1.8 115KM said that for such a car there will be better centers, plus if I do not drive a lot because futura is rather for newer cars, it needs more charging current or something like that, and what is yours opinion?
I have the first one - golf MK2 1.8 for about 2 years, with proper charging of the smallest problems, I am generally energy efficient, so all the bulbs went off, everything inside is on the leds, so even in winter the door did not close, the headliner lamp was on all night - it turned on no problem. And how many times the radio was turned on for several or several hours, I will not mention it.
Plus centers are approx. Futura has some solutions to prevent the battery from discharging at a standstill, but the base (though not entirely, because basically the base series is standard) plus it will be ok
I suggest reading the opinions of users on advertising defective batteries. Then you may not have to choose between Futur and Plus -
Both batteries are good products, but the Plus is openable and the Futura is heat-sealed, there will be opponents and supporters of each product opinion. The truth is, we drive the lights all the time and the battery gets more than before, you need to recharge them, and hardly anyone does it and then the claims that the weight loss has become and the black electrolyte in 2 years in Futura and the complaint is not recognized. My battery works for 5 years, but it's probably because it recharges via nocke every 3 months. Regards
It is foolish to charge the battery every 3 months, the smaller the battery capacity and the higher the current, the better because it should be cheaper.
I have Futura 53Ah Centers, with higher inrush current, it works very well. I wonder how long it will last. The warranty is supposed to be for 3 years.
The agony of the battery occurs after 7 years, it is strange that no one writes about it and no one knows it .
... The truth is that, we drive the lights all the time and the battery gets more than before, you need to recharge them, and hardly anyone does it and then complaints that the weight loss has become and the black electrolyte in 2 years in Futura and the complaint is not recognized .. ..
In fact, Futura is acu of special care, it started to feel ill for me after 1.5 years, she died a year later. She worked in a car in which she was charged with a current of 13 V, if the engine was running at idle speed and high lights, feet, fog, emergency, reversing lights were on at the same time; in addition, full power ventilation, radio, rear window heating and a cigarette lighter - normally at 14.5 V. The car is used regularly, on routes several kilometers long, with a small gasoline engine 1.3 burning "close" - as you can see from the description of the battery slightly not he had it and the guarantor did not recognize the complaint.
I had center future 53 after about 1.5 years there were problems The car did not start after 3 days of inactivity
Of course, the manufacturer did not accept the guarantee Overall, their warranty service is tragic, the only thing they can do is blame it on the customer. That's the only thing they're good at
The warranty is recognized when the cell is short-circuited or the voltage drops to 0 V (interruption), the battery becomes unsealed due to a production defect and electrolyte leakage.
But if someone has an incorrect charging, a power-hungry receiver that sucks the battery when parked, in the service battery will lead to a long-term discovery of the plates, and finally will keep the battery permanently undercharged and, as a result, sulphated, why would the manufacturer accept the warranty?
I can see that you are saying the same as the service employee
Only with the use of an older battery for this car and I have been driving for over a year and it does not cause problems with ignition Not once was there a problem with inflammation
Simply CENTRA batteries are ZLOM
The website's job is to create paranoia and blame the customers
Good batteries, much more resistant to mistreatment than the current hyper-modern ones, have already been, but they have run out because: - everything is now made to last only the warranty period, each subsequent year is a souvenir that you have to be happy about. On the other hand, batteries for the first assembly can do the job for several years. Does it mean that only very good cars are placed under the hood or maybe it proves the technical condition of cars in the first years of life? - because lead is more expensive than it used to be and you need to keep the price of batteries at an acceptable level for buyers.
In the past, people with batteries used to handle batteries like an egg, they topped up every month, checked the electrolyte level, there were fewer electricity receivers in the cars. Today everyone wants to put a box under the hood and then just pour fuel and drive without problems for 5 years. The current batteries are not the same as in cars, radios with memory backup, electric power assistants, air conditioning, heating of windshields and mirrors, electric windows, seats, alarms guarding the zone around, sensors of everything possible and the hell knows what else. Even an alarm siren with its own batteries, which after a few years die or spill out (my case), are able to kill any battery quickly, no matter what company and for how much.
Average speeds in cities have dropped dramatically. An efficient alternator + regulator in a car standing in a traffic jam, idling, with lights, heating and radio on, will not be able to effectively charge the battery even in half an hour, as a car driving 15 minutes with an average speed of about 2,000 / min will do. And the realities, especially in winter, are that you stand more than drive.
When it comes to choosing a manufacturer, it is enough to look at the results in google. Once recommended Bosche to others, they sleep like Afghan houses after a year, the same is with Centers, Varts, ZAPs and many other, freely chosen companies. I haven't heard a bad word about MOLLs yet, but maybe I was looking poorly.
If I were to buy a new battery now, I would definitely not be fooled by any models offering, for example, + 30% of the maximum starting current from the same capacity. Speaking of Centers, the Plus model for 45 Ah gives 300A, and the Futura with the same capacity almost 400A.
Whether the centers are scrap, I had a standard for 4 years and I didn't complain, I don't think I charged it even once.
I also had a standard center in another car before and after 2.5 years it got a short circuit on the cells
I paid more for FUTURE because they offered a 3-year warranty and supposedly very good quality. So what if the warranty is not recognized and the quality is worse :cry:
In general, I do not recommend FUTURA CENTERS batteries and I will not buy a battery from this company
The service technicians are very well trained but only blame the customer Generally, their service is a failure !!!!
And I have Futura Centers in 4 cars (including 2 diesels), they are already 3,4,5 years old and when I put them on, I forgot about them. Now, a change awaits me in the next one, and looking at what you write, these are not Centers, but looking from my experience, I would rather stay at the Center. The only thing in one, the magic eye "broke" and was never green again.
A little note about Centra, it probably still produces batteries for export under the name Exide. Nobody wants to believe it, but I will write. He lasted almost 10 years. The year of production 1999 and it fell in 2009, for unknown reasons, made it worse. It was factory-fitted in 2001, because the car was left for 2 years this year. Fiat Siena 1.2 2001 car. He died at a mileage of about 75,000 km. Well, water was added regularly and the electrolyte density was measured, perhaps it served him well. I also recommend searching under the name Exide.
For me too, batteries from the first assembly last a minimum of 5 - 7 years and that too in diesel.
You will not buy a battery of the same quality as is supplied to the car manufacturer anywhere. They supply better quality batteries there, as do all the parts.
The quality of Centra batteries on the open market broke down a few years ago and is getting worse. If you buy a battery from another company, you will at least have a guarantee, because Centa assumes in advance not to recognise any complaints.
A little note about Centra, it probably still produces batteries for export under the name Exide. Nobody wants to believe it, but I will write. He lasted almost 10 years. The year of production 1999 and it fell in 2009, for unknown reasons, made it worse. It was factory-fitted in 2001, because the car was left for 2 years this year. Fiat Siena 1.2 2001 car. He died at a mileage of about 75,000 km. Well, water was added regularly and the electrolyte density was measured, perhaps it served him well. I also recommend searching under the name Exide.
Yes, only technology 10 years ago was different. A modern battery will last a maximum of 7 years.
The amount of lead used has a great influence on the battery life. What to do if the prices of this metal in the markets are rising and the producers want to keep the prices of the batteries at an affordable level? You know.
Since 2004, prices have been going up, and more or less from that point on, we can assume a decline in the quality of the batteries. This doesn't just apply to Centers.
But to get a new one, usually everyone gives back the old battery, from which lead is recovered, so lead prices should not be 100% translated. Anyway, the deposit has been probably PLN 30 for a long time, and if lead is so expensive, it should be more.
But to get a new one, usually everyone gives back the old battery, from which lead is recovered, so lead prices should not be 100% translated. Anyway, the deposit has been probably PLN 30 for a long time, and if lead is so expensive, it should be more.
You pay the 30 PLN deposit to the budget of the Marshal's Office, not to the battery producer, and the price of lead in the markets has nothing to do with it. The rate is specified in the Act of April 24, 2009 on batteries and accumulators - Journal of Laws No. 2009, no. 79, item 666.
The old battery is also not sent to the manufacturer but to the "waste battery or waste accumulator treatment facility". The plant lives off the fact that it sells the recovered secondary raw materials to production companies. Do you think plants sell these raw materials for, say, 10% of the value? They are also happy to use the market price, because it is their profit.
And ? Is there any prohibition for the battery manufacturer to create a subsidiary that will deal with the processing of used batteries? Anyway, Johnsons Controls, the owner of the varta, has one - a plant in Krautscheid (Germany). In Poland, ZAP Sznajder also has such a company. EDIT: I just read somewhere that the battery processing plant belonging to ZAP Sznajder will be closed - the employees and local residents, including children (so there is no option that they are former employees), were found to have exceeded the lead content in their blood several times, and they allegedly poured acid from the batteries somewhere secretly. "business in Polish", hands drop.
If I were to buy a new battery now, I would definitely not be fooled by any models offering, for example, + 30% of the maximum starting current from the same capacity. Speaking of Centers, the Plus model for 45 Ah gives 300A, and the Futura with the same capacity almost 400A.
I have a 50 Ah battery, the equivalent of an ordinary centry and has 510A. I bought it on 10.2009, it has a kick to this day, but you have to take care of such exhausted batteries. Those with lower starting current are more resistant to discharges, e.g. leaving the car with the lights on, but they do not have such a 'kick'. Centra plus is the same as Centra standard only that the capacity is too low, e.g. on a standard 55 Ah battery, the label of Centra plus 50Ah is stuck
bmisilo wrote:
A little note about Centra, it probably still produces batteries for export under the name Exide.
The centers were bought by the American company Exide and both are manufactured in one factory.
adroit wrote:
I wonder why Centers do not provide the WEIGHT of batteries in their catalogs. This gives a lot to think about. The lighter the battery the worse.
Where do other manufacturers quote such conclusions from? The manufacturer may as well use lead of inferior quality and less refined. Other substances will corrode the plates earlier and cause the battery to deteriorate faster. Maybe this is what bush companies do?
The discussion revolves around the comparison between Centra Futura 53Ah and Centra Plus 54Ah batteries for the Opel Astra II 1.8 115KM. Users express varying opinions on the suitability of each battery based on driving habits. The Centra Plus is generally recommended for frequent driving due to its higher durability and better performance under load, while the Futura is suggested for less frequent use, although some users report issues with its longevity and warranty claims. Concerns about the quality and reliability of Centra batteries are prevalent, with several users sharing negative experiences regarding warranty service and battery lifespan. The consensus leans towards the Centra Plus for its robustness, especially in colder climates, while the Futura is criticized for its performance and warranty issues. Summary generated by the language model.
