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Crossover Twisted Pair - When to cross the brown and blue pairs

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  • #1 12487674
    radek04
    Level 10  
    Hello.
    There are 2 types of twisted pair in the network. In one version, the brown and blue pairs do not move
    1 -> 3, 2 -> 6
    3 -> 1, 6 -> 2

    Crossover Twisted Pair - When to cross the brown and blue pairs

    in the second they are crossed
    1 -> 3, 2 -> 6
    3 -> 1, 6 -> 2
    4 -> 7, 5 -> 8
    7 -> 4, 8 -> 5

    Crossover Twisted Pair - When to cross the brown and blue pairs

    1. What is the difference between them? Do all devices support both variants (I checked on PS3 and work with both and with a straight cable)? When should this variant be used? Can they be recognized by some other marking, or only by the colors (or tester)?

    2. Is the straight cable made according to T568A or T568B? I know it doesn't make much difference, but maybe some standards describe it? After all, arranging in any order but identical on both sides would also work, but that's not the point.

    3. Patchcord is only a crossover cable (crossover) - following Wikipedia - or is each twisted pair (and not only) terminated with lugs?

    Many questions and maybe not the most important ones, but recently I started to earn tips and I would like to know how it should be done.
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  • #2 12487744
    farmerro
    Level 16  
    I can be wrong, let my colleagues check ...

    1. Crossover of all pairs you describe applies to crossover cable for 1000Base-T 1Gb / s technology, where all pairs of wires are used.

    2. As you say, it makes no difference. I often see factory A or B standard cables

    3. A patch cord is usually defined as a short cable, ready-made, pre-crimped, soft, stranded ...
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  • #3 12487786
    radek04
    Level 10  
    Yes I thought it was about speed. But can I always patch them all? Or can there be problems with older devices?
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  • #4 12487817
    Piotrek.pxf
    Level 27  
    Older devices that do not have Auto MDI-MDIX functionality will have problems, and will not actually work if the wrong type of cable is used. It is best to use it as intended, because it is not always possible to predict later changes or what end devices will be connected to the network.
  • #5 12487834
    farmerro
    Level 16  
    Older devices (running at 10 / 100Mb / s) use two pairs (green and orange) crossed according to your drawing:
    Crossover Twisted Pair - When to cross the brown and blue pairs

    So it shouldn't be a problem to patch the other two pairs (brown, blue).

    In new devices equipped with the Auto MDI-MDIX function, the device's network card recognizes by itself whether the cable is straight / crossover and sets the port accordingly (depending on the needs).
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  • #6 12487906
    Piotrek.pxf
    Level 27  
    Sorry for the confusion.
    In the previous post, I meant, of course, the situation of using a crossover cable always, even when a simple one is required - a device without Auto MDI-MDIX will not be able to cope. When it comes to two or four pairs, as my colleague farmerro wrote - there should be no problem with older devices.
  • #7 12487909
    radek04
    Level 10  
    The question about patchcord came from Allegro, where there are 3 categories: * UTP, * Patchcord, * UTP (unshielded). I don't really see the difference, especially with both UTP. After all, UTP, by definition, is unshielded ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the differences between two types of twisted pair cables used in networking: straight and crossover cables. The crossover cable configuration is essential for 1000Base-T (1Gb/s) technology, where all pairs are utilized. Older devices lacking Auto MDI-MDIX functionality may encounter issues when using the incorrect cable type, while newer devices can automatically adjust to the cable type. The conversation also touches on the categorization of patch cords and the confusion surrounding UTP (unshielded twisted pair) definitions. It is noted that older devices typically use two pairs (green and orange) for communication, and there should be no issues with patching the brown and blue pairs in modern setups.
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