Comparing NICE ROBO500, CAME BX78, FAAC 414 Drives for 4m Sliding Gates with Wiśniowski OPTIMA 600

Question

Hello everyone and apologies if I wrote in the wrong section. I am looking for a drive and gate that would be suitable for me. The gate is supposed to be 4m and be sliding (because it is said that tilting ones get unsettled and do not close properly after winter and there are problems with them)...

kotbury · Accepted Answer

I would add the FAAC 741 (clumsy but armored) to the list of possible drives for the screenings, and if the gate is not a giant I would give the Robus 350 instead of the Robo600 (much more modern than the Robo, which has a less established reputation in drives with 220V motors than the Faac 741).
Choice a matter of personal preference, price and service available nearby. (the above-mentioned drives actually do not damage themselves mechanically, so the question of warranty repairs or after- it is only in the worst case to send the board with electronics to the service)
Radio in Eldrim (at Wiśniowski) is also Eldrim production and as you wrote - leave the 2k433 remotes and add an external Eldrim receiver to the gate (to ANY above-mentioned control panel can be done) - he makes such.

andrzej lukaszewicz · Accepted Answer

Most remote controls work on this frequency and most are not interchangeable.
These are parts normally bought separately. Any dealer can sell you a control board without a receiver , and this beninca model has this radio soldered into the board and programmed from this board.
Personally I would also give up the original faaclight and safebeam photocells in favor of other nicer( applies to the lamp) and more durable(photocells) . My proven types I can give you on PW.

mangusta28 · Answer

And what do you think about Beninca BULL 8M or 5M . Someone wrote somewhere that the gearboxes have all immersed in oil and have not had a case of any failure from the ones installed so far. I will honestly say that I am surprised by the price differences for example on allegro, and in online stores (even a few hundred zlotys). What is the point here ? And which company has the best service ?

andrzej lukaszewicz · Answer

Those without oil( with solid lubricant) last just as long as those with oil - a matter of choice of materials. And oil can also leak and about then?
The Eldrim company produces receivers adapted to the Came and Faac control boards, so you don't have to clip anything on the cables, just into the original connectors.
Beninca already has a built-in receiver, which you pay for in the price of the set+ the additional cost of the eldrim radio. I would take faac 740/741 or Came BX Strong. Faac is faster than came and beninca. Faac has of the three the most elegant way to unlock the mechanism.

mangusta28 · Answer

And I could not, for example, in Beninka teach the remote control from Wisniowski to operate beninca ? Both in Beninca and Wisniowski from eldrim operate the same frequency 433.92MHz ? Does that mean from what you write, that Came and Faac do not have built-in receivers and I don't have to pay for them in the price + the additional cost of the radio Because it seemed to me that each of them in the price has a receiver. 9095

mangusta28 · Answer

That is, it is enough if I take the controller without remotes and without the radio and without the frequency card (or is the radio the card ?), and the radio I will buy from Eldrim, so that I can use the remotes I already have.
Did I understand correctly ?

I'm thinking about CAME for now, but I do not exclude FAAC.
From these 2 I will choose as I find out where the closest to me is a company that services.

andrzej lukaszewicz · Answer

The frequency card in came is just a radio receiver. Buy everything from one vendor. I'll give you directions ( PW) to a reliable source where they'll match you up with everything as you want and at one shipment price. I also advise you to install nylon gear strips instead of steel ones.

PrzyjaznyDom · Answer

Hello,

the basis of product reliability is good installation. Even the best drive can be poorly installed and you will not be satisfied.
All the drives you have listed are worth considering.
When it comes to Nice equipment, write to PW and I will recommend a proven company in your area. Buying from one supplier will guarantee peace of mind and possible hassle-free warranty issues in case of problems.

mangusta28 · Answer

andrzej lukaszewicz what about these leads ? I would be interested in buying only the necessary accessories (I don't need 4 sets of remotes, or emergency safe beam pics as well as radios from Faac or CAME). That is, the eldrim eLFAA/eLFAA-H radio for Faac, and the eLR/eLR-C2H for CAME ? I'm thinking right ? Here's the link: NICE I don't take it (they wrote that the service sucks).

PrzyjaznyDom · Answer

Nice service is the largest and fastest of the other companies listed.
This also shows the number of actuators that are introduced to the market by Nice.
There are failures, but on a scale similar to, or smaller than, those of competitors.
Most of them are incorrectly selected actuators (to save money) or incorrect installation.
Bad things are usually said about the service by installers who do not work directly with Nice.

mangusta28 · Answer

The problem is that the issue is that NICE service is ANTI-customer.
Whatever you didn't do, it's YOUR FAULT and that's the problem.
For me, this approach = NO WARRANTY - count on yourself.

As long as this approach to the customer, the customer (read ME) has somewhere to go with the products of these companies.

PrzyjaznyDom · Answer

I never had such a problem with their service. If there is a warranty card (filled out correctly), actuators properly installed then in my case they have always gone along.
After the warranty there is always access to parts and the possibility of repair in 24 hours.

mangusta28 · Answer

You can see, every seller / installer is a different opinion.

Everyone praises what he sells - and what is to do here someone who does not know ?

I'll look for an authorized service closest to me and decide which one I choose.

Greetings and thank you for all the answers.

Orientally I know that any good, as long as a good installer was.
How to know a good ?? Someone will say ?

PrzyjaznyDom · Answer

Someone has to be believed. Talk and judge for yourself if someone is worth trusting.
With this praising of your own is not quite as you say.
I recommend and sell what I am sure of and have no problem with. I don't want to have unhappy customers and drive to failures.
If you decide to Nice write on PW I will recommend a good installer in your area.

andrzej lukaszewicz · Answer

As there are a lot of companies and models on the market ( also a lot of successful and reliable ones) there will be a lot of equivalent proposals here.

mangusta28 · Answer

For those interested, I write that I bought a FAAC 740, installed and programmed the remotes myself. Everything works so far.

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