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Choosing the Best Drive/Automation for Double-Leaf Gate: FAAC S418, FAAC 414, or G-BAT 300 GENIUS?

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  • #1 17493656
    -klimek-
    Level 2  
    Hello all.
    I need your help in choosing a drive for my double-leaf gate. I keep an eye on three sets such as:
    - FAAC S418
    - FAAC 414
    - FAAC G-BAT 300 GENIUS
    which one to choose, so that it all plays with my gate, so that the gate doesn't open and close too long.
    I used to have a drive on the gate (Chinese) that literally opened the gate 1 min, 40 sec ...
    From auctions on portals it appears that the most-bought set is the FAAC 414, but won't the actuators be too long?

    Thanks in advance to everyone for your help.

    Dimensions:

    Wing length - 185cm
    The width of the post - 30 cm
    Distance from the hinge to the post - 6 cm
    The position of the hinge on the post (edge to edge) - 15 cm

    Choosing the Best Drive/Automation for Double-Leaf Gate: FAAC S418, FAAC 414, or G-BAT 300 GENIUS? Choosing the Best Drive/Automation for Double-Leaf Gate: FAAC S418, FAAC 414, or G-BAT 300 GENIUS? Choosing the Best Drive/Automation for Double-Leaf Gate: FAAC S418, FAAC 414, or G-BAT 300 GENIUS? Choosing the Best Drive/Automation for Double-Leaf Gate: FAAC S418, FAAC 414, or G-BAT 300 GENIUS?
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    #2 17493733
    Felini
    Moderator
    There are also underground cylinders, relatively rarely used, only the cover is visible, which is flush with the ground.
    The advantage is the lack of visible elements (aesthetics), but also a very low risk of mechanical damage, devastation or theft.
    The prices of such drives are usually higher than those mounted above the ground.

    An example of an underground drive of the Austrian company Tousek.
    The maximum opening speed is 6 ° / s, which is approx. 15-20 s for the gate opening to an angle of 90 °.
    Choosing the Best Drive/Automation for Double-Leaf Gate: FAAC S418, FAAC 414, or G-BAT 300 GENIUS?TURN 310..F.PNG Download (442.89 kB)
  • #3 17493743
    -klimek-
    Level 2  
    I would like to spend max. PLN 2,000 on the whole set, underground ones are probably much more expensive, and from these sets I wrote above, some will fit my gate?
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  • #4 17493825
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    They won't be too long, moreover - the standard ones might be too short. The Faac 414 in the long version will approach 100% (with 50 cm extension - you have thick posts and the mounting dimensions will oscillate around 20 cm or more). Long Gbat and 418 can be closed (40 cm stroke)
  • #5 17509379
    sznyt
    Level 11  
    And BFT Kustos will also fit well.
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  • #6 17509638
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    sznyt wrote:
    And BFT Kustos will also fit well.

    Kustos comes in two types. A25 with a travel of 295mm and A40 with a travel of 355mm.
    I do not think that they function properly and without failure ...
  • #7 17511014
    sznyt
    Level 11  
    Marek J. wrote:
    I do not think that they function properly and without failure ...


    You mean they don't match the parameters given by the author?
  • #8 17511062
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    sznyt wrote:
    You mean they don't match the parameters given by the author?

    Exactly...
  • #9 17530153
    sznyt
    Level 11  
    Okay, thanks for the answer. I was convinced that the author's conditions were quite standard, so I threw my proposal.
    As actuators they seem solid, but that's not the case. :)
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  • #10 17532096
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Any tube with a pitch of min. 400mm.
    Felini wrote:
    There are also underground cylinders, relatively rarely used, only the cover is visible, which is flush with the ground.

    Sure, they are and rarely used, with the price of the equipment alone around 7,000. PLN + labor and materials will amount to 9 thousand.
    Tubular with standard assembly costs 2.5-3 thousand. max with labor and wiring.
  • #11 17532749
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    Any tube with a pitch of min. 400mm.

    A stroke of 400 mm, it may not be enough without undercutting the post to maintain optimal installation and work conditions.
  • #12 17533072
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    I successfully installed a lot of such actuators on wider 38 cm wide clinker posts + half-width hinges.
    Here we have 30 cm, so it can be set even more.
  • #13 17533073
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    I successfully installed a lot of such actuators on wider 38 cm wide clinker posts + half-width hinges.

    Well, congratulations on the successes and customer satisfaction after several years of operation.
    The engine from 126p can also be mounted on the Bentley. And even a little ride. :D
    Do you know what the manufacturer's recommended installation dimensions are and why the A dimension should be similar to the B dimension? If not, read a bit, and if so, apologize to your customers.
  • #14 17534174
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Please don't treat me like a novice and someone who doesn't know what the approximate dimensions of A and B.
    On this 30 cm post it is possible to achieve dimensions A = B. Even with the proportions of the 20-15 cm type, there are no side effects and I do not have to apologize to anyone. I do not mount any trash, only very strong actuators with a reserve of power and stiffness, which in difficult and unusual installations tolerate much larger deviations from the "recommended" dimensions.
    Here, the handles on the post need to be shortened (so that they do not touch the corner of the post), and not mounted on the original lengths.
  • #15 17534304
    Marek J.
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    Please don't treat me like a novice

    Sorry, maybe I exaggerated a bit. However, in response, I wrote that at 30 cm, the stroke of 400 mm is maybe (does not have to be!) be too little.
    In response, you wrote that you are mounting "successfully" on 38 cm, and here I do not see any success in the long run.
    Now you change the data again and write that I accuse you of editing 30 cm. Please decide and specify which dimension is the correct one and for which you were offended ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting the appropriate drive for a double-leaf gate, specifically comparing the FAAC S418, FAAC 414, and G-BAT 300 GENIUS models. The user expresses concern about the opening speed of the gate, referencing a previous slow Chinese drive. Responses indicate that the FAAC 414 is popular but may require a long version to fit the user's gate dimensions effectively. The FAAC S418 and G-BAT 300 GENIUS are also considered, with suggestions that underground drives, while aesthetically pleasing and less prone to damage, are typically more expensive. The conversation highlights the importance of matching actuator specifications to the gate's physical parameters, including wing length and post width, to ensure optimal performance.
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