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Opening Electric Strike Without Power: Seeking Alternate Methods and Models

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  • #1 12745765
    wotik
    Level 20  
    Hello

    This may be a stupid question but I couldn't find the answer anywhere...

    I plan to install an intercom with the possibility of operating an electric strike in the gate. And here comes the problem. How will I open the gate in the event of a power failure - the electric strike will "hold" all the time (models that open during a power failure fall off)? I was looking for models with some option to open the electric strike with a key, but I did not find anything like that ...

    Maybe some other ideas - or maybe in such a situation all I'm left with is the historical "jump over the fence"?

    Regards

    Wojtek
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  • #2 12745791
    fuutro
    Level 43  
    Can't you put a knob on the gate instead of a handle that can be opened with a key?
  • #3 12745810
    wotik
    Level 20  
    But how does it relate to the "closed" electric strike...?
  • #4 12745824
    mczapski
    Level 40  
    There are so many intercom systems that it is enough to take a look. Usually, the lock consists of an electromechanical part (in the frame) and a mechanical part (in the door) operating independently of each other and cooperating.
  • #5 12745839
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    most modern locks, even those for gates, have the function of opening with a key [when the lock is open, you turn the key by 1/4 turn, then the part that holds the electric strike opens). If there is no option to install such a lock. then put on a bolt that releases when the power is cut off [then you need to add a relay to the intercom - some models had the ON-OC function by default.
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  • #6 12745875
    wotik
    Level 20  
    Ponichter Janusz wrote:
    most modern locks, even those for gates, have the function of opening with a key


    Can you provide a name/manufacturer of such a lock?

    Ponichter Janusz wrote:
    put a bolt that releases when the power is cut off


    As I wrote earlier, this solution is out of the question, because after a power failure I would open the gate or I would have to lock it every time to keep it closed in the event of a power failure ...
  • #7 12745990
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    Mortise door locks with a replaceable insert manufactured by Gerda, Lob, Jana - there are many dimensions, go to the Castorama, Obi, Praktiker.
  • #8 12746034
    wotik
    Level 20  
    Hmmm... thanks for the hints, but I have the impression that we "pass each other on the way" somewhere.

    Maybe I'll ask this: Can someone give me a specific model of an electric strike / lock with an electric strike for outdoor use (wicket) that can be opened (with a key) in the event of a power failure?
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  • #9 12746237
    xury
    Automation specialist
    Dude you think wrong. It's NOT the electric strike you open when you don't have power, you only use the key to hide the lock tongue in the gate.
    And if you want to keep the gate open all the time during a power outage, use electric locks instead of electric strikes.
  • #10 12747161
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    Every lock should be able to be opened with a key, whether there is power or not. The electric strike is just a kind of element of the door frame that releases when the voltage is applied.
  • #11 12747300
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    zybex wrote:
    Every lock should be able to be opened with a key, whether there is power or not. The electric strike is just a kind of element of the door frame that releases when the voltage is applied.


    ...not everyone, just the one with the lever.
    Another thing is that most new locks already have a lever as standard.

    Regards
  • #12 12747301
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #13 12747426
    kot mirmur
    Level 33  
    \ Buddy Wotik how much you stubbornly got it - Elektra Plus Poznań mod. electromagnetic catch R3 with blockade [right or left] Unfortunately, no electric bolt is designed to work outside [snow will come, there will be a bida] PS. Why do people look for the most difficult solutions. The simplest ones, sometimes even makeshift ones, last for YEARS.
  • #14 12757525
    tomekkresek
    Level 12  
    I still wonder why you want to open the bolt with the stubbornness of a maniac? It is enough to undo the lock tongue with a key, as colleagues have already written above.
    But if you are so stubborn, you can spend PLN 1500.00 + VAT and install an electric lock, e.g. ABLOY EL460/461
    http://www.assaabloy.com.pl/Local/PL/Support/...s/ABLOY%20EL460,461%20zamki%20elektryczne.pdf

    in addition, a grommet and a specialized cable (I do not advise using a regular one because it will get tangled quickly)

    please did you? You have :)
  • #15 13408294
    walpok
    Level 2  
    Maybe use a reversible electric strike that will "release" when there is no power supply.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenge of operating an electric strike for a gate during a power failure. The user seeks alternatives to traditional electric strikes that remain locked without power. Suggestions include installing a knob that can be opened with a key, using intercom systems with electromechanical locks, and considering mortise locks with key access. Specific models like the ABLOY EL460/461 electric lock and the Elektra Plus Poznań electromagnetic catch R3 are mentioned. The conversation emphasizes the importance of having a mechanical override for electric strikes and suggests using a reversible electric strike that releases when power is lost.
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