two-wire installation and an additional electric strike switch

Hello everyone
This is my first post on the forum - but I read a lot so please be a little forgiving.

I am slowly starting the assembly of a double-leaf gate with an automatic machine and a gate controlled from the intercom. The gate, wicket and fence elements will be ordered - they will be in mid-May.
I additionally bought "single-family doorphone set, 2-wire, surface-mounted, SALEM, OR-DOM-SL-923" and I would like to connect an additional exit button from the inside of the fence.
And now the questions:
- If I install the circuit breaker according to the diagram, will it work and should I mount the diode on the terminals of the electric strike?
- Can I install an electric strike with memory in such a system? for example:
1743-12AC / DC - Symmetrical 12VAC / DC electric strike with internal memory and lock - Lockpol
Thank you in advance for the hint
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If you connect as per the diagram it will be correct.
From the diagram it is not clear where the positive pole is and where the negative contacts of the electric strike power supply are connected, so check the meter before connecting the power supply.
We use the diode to discharge the electro-catch coil after a power outage.
Its use is the most correct (cathode towards the plus of the power supply).

* You can use the clip with or without memory but it must be permanently closed. Supplying power from a doorphone panel or power supply opens the latch.

* unless one of the jumpers in the uniphone (JP1, JP2) allows you to connect a reversible lock (there is nothing in the instructions.), then you can use the memory latch and the (NC) button on one of the wires from the electric strike without using an additional power supply.

Thanks and one more thing: will it be possible to use an electro-catch with memory in such a system?

In both versions you can use a clip with memory.

It's me again
Gate with a wicket mounted, double-leaf gate automation is a set of "mHaus WT1 - WT2" from NICE, intercom as above Ortho.
The normally open switch was mounted as in the previous entries of the electric door strike with memory, but remembers opening for two lock entries (openings) - one opening during the given signal and after entering and closing the electric strike door remembers the earlier long signal from the uniphone in the apartment and you can open the gate again - such a charm and a matter of getting used to slamming the door twice

The problem appeared unexpectedly when operating the gate using an intercom:

The intercom controls the gate only partially, the gate can be opened but can no longer be closed or stopped during movement. As a result of thorough checks, I found that the relay contacts shorted, the transfer to the intercom output terminals (GATE / GATE) takes about 6-8 seconds - this is not a single short short signal -.
The time of about 6 seconds is received by the gate automation as a series of successive signals and as a result leads to the gate being locked in the open position.
This way of transmitting the short-circuit signal is maybe good for controlling the electric strike, because it allows you to open, for example, a gate during its duration, unfortunately for the automatic gate it is too long and blocks the operation of the actuators.
Of course, the gate works fully correctly with a mechanical make contact after a short signal (max. 2 sec).

The conclusion is as follows:
Signals from the intercom are too long ;
- for an electric strike with memory, opening the gate during the signal duration causes one more opening to be left in memory - the problem disappears by using an external normally open button, we only have one opening after reaching the gate because the lock "remembers"
- for a gate, a long signal is received as a series of many signals or one big short circuit - the gate moves but after a while returns, jerks and remains in the open position.

And now the questions:
-Is it possible to shorten the duration of both of these signals or only the short-circuit signal of the intercom relay on the output contacts (GATE / GATE) for the gate itself? If so, how?

Gate automation uses the BUS communication protocol (whatever that means - I have no idea about this type of connection) and has an ECSBUS connector.
The intercom also uses the new BUS type communication protocol (information from the device manual)
Is it possible to connect the GATE / GATE intercom output terminals with the ECSBUS connector in the gate automation and whether any connection attempt will not cause damage to the devices. Maybe then it works ??????

- Is it possible to connect an additional pair of wires in a uniphone, e.g. on an internal microswitch - does the microswitch withstand such a load? - so that with the GATE button you can get a short signal depending only on how long you hold it with your finger.

Do you just have to pull a new cable (60 meters), install the most ordinary bell type switch, mount it vulgarly next to bypassing the intercom and give it up with all this automation?

Thank you for all kinds of suggestions and hints.

keruj_jp wrote:

Gate with a wicket mounted, double-leaf gate automation is a set of "mHaus WT1 - WT2" from NICE, intercom as above Ortho.

A colleague has problems reading or spelling names correctly?
You can earn a simple patent to get a short pulse from the relay output. The disadvantage of this solution is that you can generate the next impulse only after the disappearance of this time 6-8 seconds.
What model (p) orno, does he not have direct control of the gate + bolt?

andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:

A colleague has problems reading or spelling names correctly?

Answering this question with certainty and with reading and writing.

It is a pity ....., malice for malice, if a colleague were polite to read the first entry in the subject would know that this is Orno SALEM OR-DOM-SL-923 and it has a bolt service function and a gate service function
http://www.orno.pl//9,zestawy-domofonowe/255,...pl,zestaw-domofonowy-2-zylowy-natynkowy-salem

PS And by the way this secret patent for shortening the signal at the output of the relay could solve my problem - but what if the secret is secret, I will certainly not be able to build it

Moderated By suworow:

It would not be a problem if, according to the rules of the forum, a friend gave the intercom model in the title.

outdated topic, solved signal length problem, topic to close

Today I received a response from the manufacturer's website:


I will not boast that I know what this module is described by them as the BOLT RELEASE - I have no idea what bird it is.

However, I previously connected the gate automation, electro-catch and intercom according to the following scheme (Annex No. 2), I additionally turned on the bell switch in parallel to the gate contacts and placed it in the garage - and everything works amazingly.