VAG Cable Selection: Comparing Polish Viaken VAG-USB-KKL-Line vs Chinese Variant (2-Linie K)

With a cable for PLN 30 plus VAG 2.5, I only take 2 cars privately. Fabia II 2008 and Octavia I 2003. Everything works in fabia, in octavia it does not connect to the airbag module.
However, if you think about cars with full CAN, rather this cable according to the information I have gathered will not work. Here you have to spend about PLN 1000 on diagnostic equipment.

tzok wrote:

I do not know how it is now, but probably still legal VAS5054a is only available for ASO,

The Chinese made an exact clone. The fact that neither ODIS nor VAS is legal software - let's start with that.

tzok wrote:

and for full functionality it requires on-line access to servers.

That's right. Some things can only be done by an authorized repairer using the Intranet (ON-LINE). In this way, e.g. driver updates, radio coding, etc. are downloaded.

tzok wrote:

... which in some cases allows, for example, to activate functions not available in a given model, which cannot be done with VAS.

You contradict yourself later - quote

tzok wrote:

If the VAS5054a with the current soft does not handle something, then nothing else will handle it either. After all, this is a factory tester.

tzok wrote:

From the diagnostic side, VCDS supports K-line, CAN and UDS, i.e. everything that can be found in passenger cars of the VW group.

Same as VAS5054a, except that the VAS5054a is the original and the VCDS is just an attempt to match the VAS5051B (the previous diagnostic interface).

And now some of my experiences with the VAS 5054a.
- it comes with VAS and ODIS software. Unfortunately, it is impossible to download both versions on one computer, because these two versions use separate versions of Softing drivers - so they bite. In practice, when it was necessary to have VAS and ODIS - I installed two Windows systems on two separate partitions (selection at system startup).
- Chinese heads are in no way inferior to the original. I compared - so I know.
- As of version 2.2.4, some Chinese heads stopped working. The heads with the specified serial number were simply blocked. My colleague and I found a workaround for this problem. Just upgrade the firmware to the old version in the VeCOM catalog (from version 2.2.3, for example). Virtually all later versions run smoothly. You don't need any patches etc .. (apart from the license file of course).

mickpr wrote:

You contradict yourself later - quote

Does Everything = Supports all existing models, but only within the specifications provided by the manufacturer. VCDS gives low-level access to configuration registers and enables the use of module combinations and configurations not provided for by the manufacturer, graphically - you can have fun in activating functions in Skoda, which are only available ex-factory, e.g. in Audi, or make some insertion of modules from newer years.

Basically, there is one thing in favor of VCDS - without being an ASO, you can go legally buy and use, VASa - no.

mickpr wrote:

it comes with VAS and ODIS software. Unfortunately, it is impossible to upload both versions to one computer, because these two versions use separate versions of Softing drivers - so they bite.

VirtualBox or VMWare?

tzok wrote:

VirtualBox or VMWare?

I haven't tested, but I'm wondering why who needs VAS if ODIS does everything + more.
The installation of two systems was necessary for a while, when one of the cars (probably a Crafter) could only be done with a VAS. As I say - from version 2.2.9 this necessity has disappeared.
I know - sentiments, habits (in my opinion VAS is nicer, because choosing Eclipse as an environment for ODIS is a mistake in my opinion .. but well .. they probably had JAVA programmers).
As for VCDS, you are probably right. I have never played chip tunning. It's a job for experts, and I'm not one of them You're talking about legality ... I'm just wondering how "legal" it is to rummage in the engine controller on your own, etc.

mickpr wrote:

I have never played chip tunning. It's a job for experts, and I'm not one of them You're talking about legality ... I'm just wondering how "legal" it is to rummage in the engine controller on your own, etc.

VCDS is not used for chip-tuning, it only allows direct interference in configuration registers. This mainly applies to retrofitting the car with factory accessories, but not available in a given version, the so-called retrofitting. As for the chip-tuning itself - in our country it is legal, i.e. it is generally legal everywhere, but not everywhere such cars can move on public roads, because such an operation invalidates the EURO approval.

tzok wrote:

VCDS is not for chip tuning

Of course, I was wrong.

I ask experts to assess whether it is suitable, it is of course VAS 5054A from OKI. Maybe someone will advise you on something more universal, for basic diagnostics, error clearing for French, German, Japanese, American cars if there is such a thing

If it is the right tile, then it is correct and quite carefully made. What is not so obvious in the Chinese ;)

The CDP / Autocom DS150E is good for everything at this price.
Of course, the soft is not legal and the last working versions are from 2014. But when will you do such new> 2014?

Karaczan wrote:

the last working versions are from 2014

... of 2013, the 2014 versions are "fake" and cause problems.

Fake, but with a base in 2014.
I did not notice any major problems.
2014.3 is with a virus, but operational, Octavia III is smart for me ...

Autocom CDP .. it's a bit of a poverty. (IMHO)., Although for all cars.

Skoda Octavia II, disassembled halfway (in a tinsmith) - only 2 diagnostic errors were found (and almost half the car was disassembled).
If this is how the diagnostics work - thank you.
Autocom version 2013.03

It all depends on what errors ... when you unplug bordnetz, you lose connection with all other modules and this is one error.

It was mainly about disassembled doors, disassembled cushions, detached sensors, lights, etc. VAS 5054a detected faults for "good morning", AutoCOM CDP did not even notice these errors.
I hooked up to 2 other cars - one Skoda Fabia, the other some Opel (I don't remember anymore) and there he noticed all the errors, like VAS.
It's hard for me to say something more - because I haven't done more thorough tests.

Hello,

Let me be attached to the topic.

I am looking for a VAG cable to connect to my computer to read errors.

I have a VW Golf V with the unfortunate 1.4 FSI engine (manufactured in 2004), a light with a blown NOX sensor often appears (in total, it is lit non-stop).

By the way, cleaning the throttle, the workshop hooked up to the computer, where there were 2 additional errors, not visible due to the check engine glowing all the time.

Could you please send any suggestions? There is a lot of it on the Allegro - but I would like to buy a reasonably good and amateur cable.

PS Father has VW Jette 1.9 TDI (2006) welcome to be able to read errors also from him.

Amateur interfaces and diagnostic software (only ori.) HEX-USB + CAN VCDS.