Saeco Incanto machine can hear the motor from the grinder but they had no coffee

Hello everyone. So I have a problem with my Saeco incanto coffee machine. Everything is ok except for grinding coffee, you can hear the grinder motor spinning but the grinder is standing still. Maybe a cogwheel to drive the grinder has failed. If any of you had a similar problem or know what it could be, please advise. Regards

As you write - the wheel could have slipped off the roller or another wheel somewhere. We can only speculate without inspection.

Well, I have to take it apart, but I'm afraid that it will be a problem to put it back together. Well, but I have to do it because the service will sing a cosmic sum.

Looks like yours, unless I'm wrong http://expert-cm.ru/images/stories/shemy_tehnich/saeco_incanto_tech_list.pdf

If the motor can be heard working but the screw does not rotate, then you have a 100% damaged plastic basket in which the lower ceramic burr is attached. Most often, when something hard gets into the grinder, the pin of the basket on which the gear wheel is mounted is twisted, which in turn receives the drive from the motor. So no unscrewing or move.

100% (although I risk it) a damaged gear wheel in the grinder. The cost is about PLN 40. Before buying, check if it is like yours. Saeco has stopped distributing wheels from older models. .

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100% (although I risk it) a damaged gear wheel in the grinder. The cost is about PLN 40. Before buying, check if it is like yours. Saeco has stopped distributing wheels from older models. .

I also got off and I don't know how to unscrew it, maybe someone will tell me not to unscrew too much, greetings ...

I can't find the service manual, I can't get to the board, nothing lights up like there's no power, can someone help me??

Responding to the author's post - I have whole grinders for Saeco _ used, fully functional. Other parts too. At very reasonable costs - inquiries on PM
Regarding the question of the last author of the post. Saeco Incanto disassembly:
At the back behind the water tank - 2 screws, under the grinder cover - another 3, under the cover for ground coffee, also 3, front - two visible fixing the panel overlay and after opening the front there are 2 from the bottom under the control panel. You also need to remove the steam knob overlay .After unscrewing it, the upper casing comes off without any problem and then everything is visible.

Please contact me - I am looking for a saeco coffee machine or .....?

Hello,
my saeco incanto sirius machine did not have coffee each time (e.g. every 3 or more). It grinds coffee into the tank but does not dispense coffee into the cup. At the repair point, I received information that the coffee I use is "too soft". Is it possible?! When buying a coffee machine in a store, should you ask if it is intended for soft or hard coffee?

Maybe he meant the thickness of the grain grinding, if it's too fine, the pump may not be able to create enough pressure to push the water through the coffee. If the machine is well descaled, the sieves in the brewing block are clean (the washing cycle with a tablet is done regularly), then prepare cash for the water pump

Unfortunately, the espresso machine has failed! Now the grinder does not have the strength to grind coffee, it does it gently, and brown water flows into the cup. Even when dispensing ground coffee, I get only water. What could be the reason?

Well, after the grinder, as for ground coffee, maybe you don't use enough, so the lura flies. Or lichuuutka ground coffee

yesterday I poured slightly damp coffee, and the grinder behaves exactly like this.. they had.. but the coffee does not go lower..

the service technician said that the part feeding the coffee was blocked.. but today he called.. that he cleaned it several times and the coffee does not go lower after grinding.. according to him, it is too finely ground.. because the grinder was wrong.. I do not know exactly why that's what happened.. and is it really the coffee's fault.. because I bought the coffee machine used.. but it has already made over 1000 coffees.. failure-free..

the sersant said that he would try to give a new motor to the grinder.. because maybe something burned..

anyway, I found a man who repairs privately in Wieliczka.. and works in a service center somewhere in Krakow..

claims that I could damage it by pouring damp coffee .. so if I broke the coffee machine myself, it's all the more stupid ..

Hello. If the coffee was wet, a plug is made in the spout and the grinder is blocked, if the motor is running, it is enough to unscrew the entire grinder and thoroughly clean the remnants of caked coffee. And it helps, so replacing the entire engine is an unnecessary expense, all the more not a small one. Provided that the motor is in good working order and it won't hurt to check the wheels of the plastic gear of the grinder if it is worn.

In my Incanto Rondo, the gear of the grinder, unfortunately of the old type, has worn out.
If anyone has one of these wheels for sale, please PM me.

Can installing a new set of motor + gear wheel require additional adjustments (assuming that I translate the hall sensor)

Unfortunately, if the grinder is of the old type, when inserting a new motor on a thick gear, the second 18 kilo resistor in place of R3 should be soldered to the resistor. Solder to what is on the board should be two.

I will refresh the topic, SAECO INCANTO RONDO, after pressing the coffee button, the grinder spins for about 1 second, I bet on the sensor in the grinder, but after replacing it is the same. Please help, maybe someone had such a case - could it be the grinder motor itself??? maybe electronics??? I do not know where to start .

I suggest looking at the gear. In my espresso machine, such symptoms were caused by a worn sprocket.

I just dismantled the grinder, replaced the motor - it still turns off after 1/2 second of operation. I watched the gear - I also see for a fraction of a second, the grinder had coffee. With a worn gear, the grinder should work for about 2 seconds (I think). lack of coffee spins about 2 seconds before the electronics informs about the lack of coffee.

The hall sensor in the grinder or the wires that go to it may be damaged, if I remember correctly three black wires. Sometimes it happened that the wires came out of the cube.

Hello and welcome . I have a question for Mr. cafedomino and I am asking for help in identifying the resistor on the Saeco sirius R3. I replaced the motor with a fine gear for a coarse one and the effect is that there is too little current and the message "no coffee" pops up. Please help Peter

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cafedomino wrote:

Unfortunately, if the grinder is of an old type, when inserting a new motor on a thick gear, the second 18kilo resistor in place of R3 should be soldered to the resistor. Solder to what is on the board should be two.

Hello and welcome . I have a question for Mr. cafedomino and I am asking for help in identifying the r3 resistor at Saeco sirius. I replaced the motor with a fine gear for a coarse one and the effect is that there is too little current and the lack of coffee message pops up. Please help Peter

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ikare70 wrote:

Hello and welcome . I have a question for Mr. cafedomino and I am asking for help in identifying the resistor on the Saeco sirius R3. I replaced the motor with a fine gear for a coarse one and the effect is that there is too little current and the message "no coffee" pops up. Please help Peter

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cafedomino wrote:

Unfortunately, if the grinder is of an old type, when inserting a new motor on a thick gear, the second 18kilo resistor in place of R3 should be soldered to the resistor. Solder to what is on the board should be two.

Hello and welcome . I have a question for Mr. cafedomino and I am asking for help in identifying the r3 resistor at Saeco sirius. I replaced the motor with a fine gear for a coarse one and the effect is that there is too little current and the lack of coffee message pops up. Please help Peter

hello, I have already found it, it is R101 and as far as I know, black 0ohm is needed here, if so, please confirm. Regards, Piotr

Hello. Where is the resistor and what value? Solder in series or parallel.

I soldered it instead and it works.

Hello everyone.
Saeco HD8856/09. I received an espresso machine from a friend. He didn't grind coffee, but you can hear the motor running. The cause turned out to be a screw that fell into the mill and blocked it.
I disassembled the grinder and examined the individual elements, including the gears. I did not notice that any element was damaged.
After cleaning all the elements and reassembling, I poured a small amount of coffee into the container and started the expresso. At first, the grinder started working but stopped - the message "add coffee" appeared.
After pouring a little more coffee and pressing the expresso button, the grinder started for a while, but after a while it stopped rotating - only the motor (no grinder) could be heard.
Unfortunately, the motor with the shaft is not removable. I'm wondering if the motor shaft could be damaged. I thought to buy a new one, but if it's not him, it's a waste of money, maybe the reason lies somewhere else.

Replacement grinder gear