Checking DVB-T Signal in Apartment Cable TV Installation without Tuner: Measuring Parameters

The question will be simple or even lame. Well, I have a cable TV installation at home, which I have not used for some time. This cable TV is an operator in the block and has (recently) been providing DVB-T signal in its installation. Can someone kindly tell me how to check if the cable in my apartment carries the signal without connecting a tuner? I have all the devices built into the wall and I would like to have access to DVB-t in the event of a failure of my TV provider (which has happened frequently recently). What parameters should the signal in the cable have (can I check it with a multimeter).
A noble group of heads full of knowledge in the field of electronics, I apologize for such a mundane question and ask for an answer at the same time.

kaporwojtas wrote:

Can someone kindly tell me how to check if the cable in my apartment carries the signal without connecting a tuner?

Borrowing a tuner from someone is the simplest and cheapest solution.

kaporwojtas wrote:

if I can check it with a multimeter

No, you are not.

Perhaps I will clarify the question. I have doubts whether the cable in my apartment is connected to the box on the cage (to which I do not have access) and I just want to determine that. Not the signal quality, etc., but only whether the cable is physically connected to the infrastructure or its other end is frivolously dangling in the "Multimedia SA" box in the basement of my block, where the box is located.

My experience (with the same company) shows that if you do not pay them a subscription fee, the cable hangs freely, not connected to anything.

I will not write about my experiences with this company because it is a topic for an epic. It was only through the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection that they heard my arguments, although they are the operator in my block, so the "AZART" and DVB-T packages should (must) be delivered in their cable. So until I am sure that the cable is dangling, I will not call my grandfathers because they have a disastrous effect on the peristalsis of my intestines and the mere conversation with their qualified staff disturbs my bowel movement policy.

So borrow a DVB-T tuner from someone and check, you'll be sure.

Dear gentlemen! There must be some electrons flowing in this goddamn cable! Connecting a decoder will not dispel my doubts because I am not 100% sure that they transmit DVB-t signal there. In-laws in another block - so at a friend's in another, not. There has to be some voltage to the bright angel and there has to be some way to check it with a multimeter. I can't believe nobody knows!

You can connect a multimeter. Either he shows something or not. Especially if there is a DC component in it, the DC voltage should show. But whether it is DVB-T or something else, you won't know anymore. It is also possible that from the RF component the meter will just go crazy and show you who knows what or show zero. Therefore, the tuner is the surest solution.

You can also equip yourself with a spectrum analyzer if you want so much

Another example is that there are no easy solutions to easy problems. Thanks for the answers. I'm going for a decoder. I had a devilish idea how to check it. I was thinking about 230V AC for the cable and when the assemblers come, I will know that it was connected and if they do not come, it means that it was dangling.

kaporwojtas wrote:

I was thinking about 230V AC for the cable and when the assemblers come, I will know that it was connected and if they do not come, it means that it was dangling.

And if he stabs someone, you'll go to jail for being stupid Not to mention damaged TV sets and other receivers.

No worries! that was supposed to be a joke! I don't think even gimbus do such idiots. As I mentioned, I have a hard time with this company.

kaporwojtas wrote:

Well, I have a cable TV installation at home, which I have not used for some time. This cable TV is an operator in the block and has (recently) been providing DVB-T signal in its installation

kaporwojtas wrote:

Multimedia SA

I am in a hurry to explain that MM provides DVB-T programming offer, BUT not in DVB-T technology, but DVB-C, so a colleague needs their set-top box with an active subscription to view such an offer anyway.
No cable network, such as UPC, Vectra, MM, provides DVB-T signal via its cabling, and why, a colleague will look for it on the network.

Hello.

kaporwojtas wrote:

Another example is that there are no easy solutions to easy problems.

The general concept of whether the cable is screwed onto the splitter connector can be to show on the multimeter that the cable has a "short circuit" (0.1 ? .
Unfortunately, it depends on the type / type of splitter used in the network TVK ablowa and it is not clear that you have a signal there, but only "presumption" that the cable is connected to something.

Simple HF meter / diode doubler probe it will also show if there is a RF signal in a given cable. (we read: RTV).
How to make a simple meter - you can search in the Radiocommunication section and enter the key words in the browser:
- field meter
- RF measurement
- RF probe
The cost of making such a probe is about PLN 3 - gross and the execution time is about 2 yellow liquids. :D

Greetings.

KOCUREK1970 wrote:

I am in a hurry to explain that MM provides DVB-T programming offer, BUT not in DVB-T technology, but DVB-C, so a colleague needs their set-top box with an active subscription to view such an offer anyway.
No cable network, such as UPC, Vectra, MM, provides DVB-T signal via its cabling, and why, a colleague will look for it on the network.

And here you are wrong.
Łódź, Koziny, Kasprzaka Street. Multimedia provides DVB-T MPEG4 in an analog social package in the VHF range, 7MHz raster. I know, because I have such a package for the entire PLN 5 and PLN 6 gross, if all other elements of my installation failed (SAT, DVB-T + radio from the roof).

If you still do not believe - please have a look at the multimedia page.

In DVB-C they have their own digital cable packages in which the signal is encoded.
The same applies to BałSat cable TV for my future mother-in-law.

stolarek_1988 wrote:

And here you are wrong.
Łódź, Koziny, Kasprzaka Street. Multimedia provides DVB-T MPEG4 in an analog VHF social package

Converting the DVB-T MPEG4 signal to the analog version is NOT the same as delivering the DVB-T MPEG4 signal unchanged, it's not the same, and that's exactly what the author of the thread asks:

kaporwojtas wrote:

This cable TV is an operator in the block and has (recently) been providing DVB-T signal in its installation

kaporwojtas wrote:

I would like to be able to access DVB-t

Besides, even if it was an analog version, a contract with a cable cable is required anyway, for such a service, there is nothing for free in any cable cable.
And considering that:

kaporwojtas wrote:

Well, I have a cable TV installation at home, which I have not used for some time.

It is 100% that any signal is cut off, and the cable is "free-hanging" in the box.

Read your buddy carefully and understand your quote chosen by me. You write there that none ...

KOCUREK1970 wrote:

cable network, such as UPC, Vectra, MM, does NOT provide DVB-T signal via its cabling, and why should a colleague look for it on the network.

And only with this part I did not agree.

As for the lack of a contract - I wrote that I pay about PLN 5 for the maintenance of the TV signal, although I do not know if I have internet, the same attenuator in the block in the block is not used for the social package and modem, but this is another matter.
I suspect that my friend may have the signal cut off, and his "crazy" ideas also knocked me off my feet. In total, I do not understand what the problem is caporwojtas to connect a tuner or TV there and see what the effects will be.

I can see that my colleague still does not understand what is the DVB-T MPEG4 transmission unchanged and in this form provided by cable, and what is the same in ANALOG form and in this form delivered by cable.

None of the cable cables I have mentioned offer a DVB-T MPEG4 signal in their cable, I am talking about the method of transmitting such a signal, not about an OFFER, because these are two different things.

Kocurek, in my case, MM also provides three MUXes in the analog package and on channels E 10 to 12, I also decode them on digital terrestrial TV and they are

Unfortunately, Kocurku's DVB-T muxs are unchanged - DVB-T MPEG4, but they are thrown into the 7MHz VHF band, so that they pass to a higher packet before the attenuators ...

And so that it is not in analog form, I only have channels
TVP 1, TVP2, TVP Łódź, amazing, Toya, an information board and that's probably all ...

But since you know better, I won't insist

kaporwojtas wrote:

I will not write about my experiences with this company because it is a topic for an epic. It was only through the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection that they heard my arguments, although they are the operator in my block, so the "AZART" and DVB-T packages should (must) be delivered in their cable. So until I'm sure the cable is dangling, I won't to grandfathers called because they have a detrimental effect on the peristalsis of my intestines and the conversation with their qualified staff it disturbs my bowel habits .

And I don't know why you are stabbing? Do you think the operator doesn't know what belongs to him? And the recipient's obligation to pay. It will pay him plugs. I emphasized how he speaks.

stolarek_1988 wrote:

But since you know better, I won't insist

Think how a company can "throw" DVB-T MPEG4 signal in its original form (like from a normal home, roof antenna) into its cable, since it has different branches in the field, and local DVB-T MPEG4 transmitters in different regions they work at different frequencies and parameters, and yet the rest of the cable offer that comes from the company's headquarters must be "mixed" in the headends.
Besides, both UPC / Vectra and MM broadcast its digital offer in DVB-C, although UPC even provides 35 free to encrypt digital programs, but in DVB-C, so either the TV must have such a tuner or you have to buy an external one DVB-C tuner.
It's also easy to check, since you say your cable TV delivers DVB-T unchanged, just search for channels the same way we would search for a signal from our own antenna on the roof.

LeDy wrote:

And I don't know why you are stabbing?

I don't see a quarrel anywhere here, it's just an exchange of views and nothing else.

Can't you see that he got you involved in his games with the supplier? As can be seen and let him worry about himself. This is his "war".

Hello.

After the exchange of views, we move on to the topic of this thread, which is:
" Checking the antenna signal ".


Greetings.

There is nothing to go over here, all the advice, advice has already been given, the author of the thread has not been "seen" anymore, no answer from him ...,
as for me, the topic to be closed, or even to the trash - at your discretion.

I did not look into this topic, which is a pity because so much has been said here. So I am telling you how things are going. The trials and tribulations of MM started when I decided to give up their services. I concluded the contract with Stream, which was bought by MM. As 2 years have passed, I wrote a 30-day termination notice as it was in the Stream regulations. After some time, a letter comes, in which it says that MM has a 3-month notice period in the regulations and I have to pay them for another 3 months. Office phone - they are adamant. They bullshit me that I accepted their terms and conditions, which were supposedly sent out to clients. Bullshit! They didn't send anything. There was only a mention with a new invoice that they had taken over the stream. Finally, the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection (UOKiK) took up their grandfathers and let them go. I sent back the decoder, disconnected the cable from the socket and FIN. However, I checked and they actually deliver the signal with the same channels as are available on the dvb-t mux (I don't know how technically but they deliver). The cooperative has a contract with them to deliver the signal and the signal is delivered digitally. DVB-t tuner finds all channels! But more interestingly, I have not been their customer for half a year, but these cymbals did not turn off something and I have all the channels from the package that I had with them in analog mode (anticipating the questions, when I had a digital tuner from them, they simultaneously broadcast the same analog channels).

When I resigned from DTV services in MM, I had an analog signal (full analog) for about 10 - 12 days after passing the decoder. Then I was left with only a social package according to the contract, including MUXes 1, 2 and 3.
It depends how many days ago you returned the equipment.
If recently it has not turned off yet. If it's been a long time - then probably sometime during some control of the box, they will.

I gave away in October ...

Maybe you have an analog TV package as part of your rent ... Generally, you don't have to honk about it or use it. Your free choice. You do not pay, and you watch, you are ahead.


You are ahead means you have a profit - tax is due :P

Have a nice reception.

kaporwojtas wrote:

Can someone kindly tell me how to check if the cable in my apartment carries the signal without connecting a tuner?

The easiest way - connect the cable to the TV and auto-tuning (preferably full) or newer TVs have something like diagnostics and show the signal strength at a given frequency.