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Resetting ORNO 3-Phase Electricity Meter: Zeroing and Installing as a Sub-Counter

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  • #1 13957553
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    Hello

    I have a 3-phase electricity meter ORNO. I would like to zero it and mount it as a sub-counter. Is it possible and how to do it? I already have the countdown.
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  • #2 13957959
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    But why do you want to zero it?
    And so you will calculate the energy consumption by subtracting the previous indication from the current one.
    What does it matter if the counter starts from zero or has an initial state?
    Futile effort.
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  • #3 13958925
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    I want to install it for a friend who rents a shop. For him, it does not matter that the counter is used, but he wants it to start from scratch and I have the opportunity to sell my counter and if he does not reset it, a friend will buy a new one that I will install.
    I think it should be possible to reset the counter.
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  • #4 13958930
    TWK
    Electrician specialist
    Daro1003 wrote:
    A friend will buy a new one that I will install
    Are you sure the new meter will have 000000.00, or maybe a few kWh charged as a result of checking? Counters set up by ZE always (in known cases) have a non-zero indication.
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  • #5 13958961
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    Daro1003 wrote:
    I think it should be possible to reset the counter.

    And it seems to me that there should be no possibility of zeroing, or at least it should be very difficult.
    Why?
    In most cases, meters are used not only to inform about the amount of energy consumed, but especially for financial settlements.

    Don't you see the analogy with car odometers?
    Ask a friend if he will buy a used car with a mileage of 0.0 km ;)
  • #6 13958971
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    I do not know. It seems to me that when buying such a counter in a warehouse, it has 000000.00.
    I know that my meter is an energy consumption indicator and not an ZE meter, the exact model is ORNO OR-03Y
  • #7 13959029
    czesiu
    Level 37  
    I recently bought electronic meters from F&F and they were reset, but the transformer ratio can only be entered once, and the meter cannot be reset.
    Unless it's the same method as in cars.
  • #8 13959122
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    I wrote an e-mail to the ORNO service, I think the matter will be resolved as soon as I get an answer.
  • #9 15809710
    Sa2k
    Level 18  
    Hello gentlemen

    I'll warm up the topic a bit ;)

    Reset as reset, I need to switch the Orno OR-WE-501 counter to "Reverse" mode.

    New generation electronic meters usually have three modes of operation: unidirectional, bidirectional and reverse.

    Only in reverse mode, the meters measure in which direction the current flows, i.e. if we connect it in reverse, it measures backwards.

    I need such an application of the meter for the ON-Grid system with solar cells.

    In the meter, after opening, you can see a 6-pin socket
  • #10 15810217
    olejopalacz2
    Level 23  
    You need to connect a programmer to this socket and change the settings.
  • #11 15812258
    Sa2k
    Level 18  
    You are undoubtedly right. But how can I do it without knowing the pins?
    After all, I'm not a programmer
  • #12 15812289
    boguslaw robak
    Level 21  
    Hello, I gave such a meter after the guarantee at the ORNO headquarters in Mikołów to be reset and after a week I received the reset cost is less than PLN 10 and you can greet.
  • #13 16983617
    Gold.pirat
    Level 11  
    Hello

    I think every ORNO counter has a similar working principle.
    I got a post-warranty counter for resale, type ORNO OR-WE-501.
    The meter was not used for billing purposes, but only for indicative purposes of energy consumption.
    It is based on ST24C02 memory.
    To reset it, clear this memory.
    Save only "FF".

    Regards
    Gregory
  • #14 17594286
    tomaso90
    Level 8  
    Hello, I recently connected a three-phase Orno meter. However, I have a question for you, should it be constantly highlighted in blue? It is on all the time, when the power is cut off, then the display dims, when it is installed in the box, the backlight is on all the time. Please, do you have any information? Resetting ORNO 3-Phase Electricity Meter: Zeroing and Installing as a Sub-Counter
  • #15 17858675
    Lesz25
    Level 10  
    Yes, mine is lit all the time too :-)
    Resetting ORNO 3-Phase Electricity Meter: Zeroing and Installing as a Sub-Counter
  • #16 18000885
    MarekS6
    Level 16  
    Hello, as I have the same problem, I do not create a new topic to not clutter the forum.

    Has anyone managed to reset the counter on their own in the meantime?
    I have 3 used OR-WE-505. I have a client for them, but they need to be reset...

    After opening one of them, I see that there is no standard EEPROM there, but a system with the designation RC16V, which if I found it on google would mean FRAM with the full designation MB85RC16V.

    What to clean it with? Will it work with the TL866 programmer and the miniPRO application ???

    Resetting ORNO 3-Phase Electricity Meter: Zeroing and Installing as a Sub-Counter
  • #17 18704525
    Gold.pirat
    Level 11  
    Hello

    Write to XGec - the manufacturer of the programmer you have.
    I do not know if you have version A or II plus, because for version A and CS support has ended.
    Here's your address:
    532007590(_at_)QQ.com
    They helped me many times, provided that you have a programmer from a "legal source of distribution".
    Currently, the TL 866 II Plus programmer does not support this type of memory, but maybe they will add it in the update, or they will tell you how to program this memory.

    Regards.
    Gregory
  • #18 19333549
    DRAZEK87
    Level 15  
    Gold.pirat wrote:
    Hello

    I think every ORNO counter has a similar working principle.
    I got a post-warranty counter for resale, type ORNO OR-WE-501.
    The meter was not used for billing purposes, but only for indicative purposes of energy consumption.
    It is based on ST24C02 memory.
    To reset it, clear this memory.
    Save only "FF".

    Regards
    Gregory


    Hello
    Referring to the above statement, I confirm that the ORNO OR-WE-501 counter can be restored to its factory state; resetting its course. The procedure is simple and takes no more than 5 minutes. In addition, I will add that I am in possession of a new copy purchased in 2015, which I have not used, but I checked and it actually has only zeros. The second one, used with the course 82299.14, which needs to be reused after erasing the memory, has 00000.01. And one more thing at the end, there is no need to desolder the memory, just plug in the clip and clean it. That's it on this topic as for the 501 model, you have more in the photo.

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    Regarding the user's statement:
    MarekS6 wrote:
    Hello, as I have the same problem, I do not create a new topic to not clutter the forum.

    Has anyone managed to reset the counter on their own in the meantime?
    I have 3 used OR-WE-505. I have a client for them, but they need to be reset...

    After opening one of them, I see that there is no standard EEPROM there, but a system with the designation RC16V, which if I found it on google would mean FRAM with the full designation MB85RC16V.

    What to clean it with? Will it work with the TL866 programmer and the miniPRO application ???

    Resetting ORNO 3-Phase Electricity Meter: Zeroing and Installing as a Sub-Counter


    it is worth noting that in both models: 501 and 505 we have the same BU9793AFS processors and an additional 0C002 chip, i.e. the same design solution was used; the difference is the type of memory and I think it is due to the amount of data storage because the 505 model is a 3 phase meter. Comparing the locations of the memory signals, we have the same I2C communication; 5V power supply and ground. The only difference is that pins 1, 2 and 3 are NC on the 505 and ground on the 501; and the WP signal at 24c02 is inverted. I would read MB85RC16V as classic EEPROM 24c02; after reading in 501 we have 99% of FF only, only the first few bytes are written and they store a digit, so the memory is extremely oversized; maybe the 505 is the same. If that doesn't help, negate the WP signal through the NOT gate. And as a last resort, switch to the 24c02 system, enter only FF, try if it does not work, negate WP and I think it may be a solution to the problem with the 505 model. Overall, if you could read the RC16V as EEPROM, although it was FRAM, it was something. If someone has 505, test it and let others know.
  • #19 19337606
    Gold.pirat
    Level 11  
    Hello

    I also programmed this system with a "clip".
    I always try to help as much as I can, because that's what Elektroda is for (not to make money from us...).
    The school teacher always said "Knowledge without Practice is Useless, Practice without Knowledge is Dangerous"...
    Let's help each other.
    I had a stroke...
    I don't wish this on anyone.
    Lots of blessings to you all...

    Regards
    Grześ

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around resetting an ORNO 3-phase electricity meter for use as a sub-counter. The original poster seeks to zero the meter for a friend who requires it to start from scratch for billing purposes. Various responses highlight the challenges and implications of resetting such meters, with some users suggesting that it may not be possible or could be difficult due to financial settlement regulations. Others share experiences with different ORNO models, indicating that some can be reset by clearing memory using a programmer. Specific models like ORNO OR-03Y and ORNO OR-WE-501 are mentioned, with users discussing methods for resetting and programming these devices. The conversation also touches on the functionality of electronic meters in different operational modes, including reverse mode for solar applications.
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