Running Ubuntu Linux Distribution on Sony Vaio SVS1513 from Pendrive: Installation Guide

Question

Colleagues and colleagues, I'd like to install one of the linux distributions (maybe Ubuntu) on a pendrive. I have a few questions on this topic: ...

dedito · Answer

Yes. The so-called Live. For beginners, I recommend Ubuntu, Mint, OpenSuse.

Ted07 · Answer

Wanting to download Ubuntu, I found such a link

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-kylin

description:
Download the Long Term Support edition of Ubuntu Kylin 14.04.1 LTS ISO image file. To install Ubuntu Kylin, burn the image file on a DVD or create a bootable USB disk.

What is Ubuntu kylin (1.3GB)? Is it a pendrive version?

KL86 · Answer

For this type of application, the following tools are very good:

http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/YUMI,Program,Windows,36349.html

http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/LinuxLive-USB-Creator-LiLi,Program,Windows,31072.html

Preparing such a pendrive is basically simple, but it is worth watching what letter Windows assigned to it during the connection, and even more carefully what is on it, because the program will definitely want to format it. Linux distribution is a lot and more. The question is what do you need this Linux for. Since we are talking about the Live version launched from Flash memory, you can definitely test most of it. For weaker Linux machines like Mint, Xubuntu. For better Ubuntu hardware, Mandriva. Of course, choose the versions for the x64, x86 processor architecture.

dedito · Answer

Yes.

Ted07 · Answer

For starters, I would like to use Linux (on pendrive) for the Internet (banking, forums, browsing).

Will using linux on a pendrive not damage the pendrive itself ???

Does anyone use linux colleagues in this way, ie on a pendrive?
What flash drive capacity is optimal for such applications?

dedito · Answer

Not In this way, it is rather used to check whether a given system suits us or for service / maintenance purposes. For normal use, it is better to install the system on a typical HDD / SDD disk.

Ted07 · Answer

Can you install Linux on an external drive and also connect it via USB3?
The speed of the linux system should be similar to that of the system that runs on the local disk in the computer.

I have already downloaded this ISO image from the above mentioned Ubuntu website, I have a formatted 4 GB pendrive
and what's next? Do I need a program to install the image on a USB stick or just cut and paste ???

suslisko · Answer

Hi,

By design, you'll need a USB flash drive (safely 2 gb or more), a Linux distribution image, and a universal-usb-installer, which you can find here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ (a very useful site).

You rip the image to Pena using Universal-usb-installer, or some other tool.
You turn off the computer, plug in the Pen and turn it on again, but by entering the BIOS (DEL, F2) or the BOOT MENU (F9, F12). I'm not sure about the keys, but something is displayed on the screen, just read or try blindly. Why to the BIOS or BOOT MENU: because if the hard disk is the first device set in the BIOS, it will not boot from Pendrive). I would advise BOOT MENU not to change anything in Bios permanently.
The pendrive will be marked as USB-FLASH or it will have the manufacturer's name, eg Kingston
Select and wait for the Gruba screen with a choice of boot options. I recommend running the failsafe version for good morning, and as a distribution LinuxMint, Ubuntu (just don't be discouraged at the beginning), or something related to Ubuntu (the best documentation, the most help posts). You can choose a linux distribution at http://www.distrowatch.com, look for Ubuntu-based ones, although I don't advise against other

And basically that's it, you should have no problem running Linux live from usb.

There is one more myk, if everything fails, i.e. Linux will not start, or the USB will not start in any way (sorry, I did not check exactly what laptop you have), then you need to set Boot = UEFI to Boot = Legacy in Bios.

Good luck. You would have problems, write it.

dedito · Answer

I have no experience with USB3 but I don't believe it is better than SATA3.

Arkzyw · Answer

Just one note - Ubuntu Kylin is a version intended mainly for Chinese users. Just in case, because I see you mentioned it. Besides, I do not disturb, because where the cooks are six ...

dedito · Answer

This just doesn't fit the forum idea Everyone has the right to express their opinion here.

KL86 · Answer

I will insert one more thread. You ask if it is possible to use an external USB 3.0 drive (because this is how it should be written), so the matter here is as follows ... He has installed several versions of older hardware lying somewhere. It is important that you try to install Linux alongside Windows yourself. I did not check, but I can guess that for the installation of Linux on an external drive you would have to get rid of the already mounted disk in the laptop, because Linux (preferably installed as the last system from the list) creates a boot file (much better than Windows) the so-called GRUB. If you were to install Linux with your current disk on which you have Windows, this one could remove the Windows MBR entry required to boot the system, so you would not run Windows without an external disk connected. I think this is the main reason why installing on an external disk misses the point, and as my colleagues pointed out earlier, although they did not extend the answer, Linux Live on pendrive is very limited and limited. It works with built-in drivers that only allow you to see what the system hides. Browsing the Internet is also very limited due to the lack of built-in add-ons which are nowadays the basis of strom animation and functioning, namely FLASH plugins and similar. As long as you are logged in to your e-mail, browsing YouTube is rather impossible.

rychu0 · Answer

@ KL86
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you could install linux on a flash drive without the drive that we have Windows on. Then we could choose whether we want to boot Windows or linux from USB (both boot programs would not be mutually exclusive), it would be enough to boot from a pendrive or disk.

Anonymous · Answer

Installing and running Linux from a USB flash drive is no problem. Unetbootin will download and burn the selected distribution to the pendive.

Worse with performance, I have tried many Linux distributions on various pen drives (USB 2.0 / 3.0) and unfortunately it works slowly. It doesn't even compare to normal disks.

Arkzyw · Answer

Here, the colleague is, of course, 100% right. Also, if you install GRUB on your main drive and you lose access to Windows, there is the Boot-Repair program - a simple tool to fix it so that GRUB sees both Win and Linux. Sometimes it fails, but there are other, slightly more complicated methods, but fully described on the Internet. Either way, nothing to worry about.

rychu0 · Answer

GRUB can be configured manually. A bit of knowledge and it's easier than using these xD programs

Ted07 · Answer

Currently I have a laptop with 8.1 wines, bios uefi. If I install, for example, Ubuntu on a free partition (computer disk) (probably one of the better distributions) and only Linux will start (because, let's say GRUB will not detect something).

1. Is there any chance to add to GRUB Windows that was previously installed ???
2. Before installing Linux, should I get some data from Windows and possibly add something to GRUB later?
3. Is it true that GRUB 2 is much better than the old GRUB, which has sometimes not seen other previously installed systems?

dedito · Answer

Yes, but to GRUB.

KL86 · Answer

I based my statement on what you expect, i.e. the least possible interference with the current configuration. For such an application, it would be best if you had a small external disk, i.e. about 120 GB (I have not seen smaller ones somehow), because it is a pity to tire a larger one, because if you wanted to keep data for Windows on it, you would have to create and partition additional partitions. Windows cannot see Linux partitions, in fact, it does not allow you to view them. There are plugins for Total Commander, but this is another program. I do not know if my colleagues read it, but at the beginning I wrote that it may be necessary to remove the mounted disk for further Linux installation in order not to damage the MBR file, but here it is better to avoid even the potential need to repair this file. Sometimes it's better to fix something for fun than out of necessity. Besides, as colleagues pointed out, and I will only add. GRUB is editable, and it is what works much better with Windows systems, not the other way around. Windows detects and adds to the system selection list probably only its systems, provided that they are also installed in the order they are created. Maybe it has changed since Vista, but XP installed after Windows 7, couldn't find it, let alone add it. As for the question of whether the old (you wrote "start") GRUB was worse than GRUB2, I can say from my own experience that this is a moot point. Maybe it's more about the bells and whistles. The old GRUB was an ordinary text file with the possibility of adding a background in 640x480 or maybe 800x600 resolution, which of course could only scale and had a limited color palette. An unquestionable advantage for me was the simplicity of entries for each system, and easy editing of moving specific lines up, defining a specific system, which allowed to set it as the first by default, also after a certain time (necessary for the user to choose another system). Somehow I couldn't cope with GRUB2, and it put me off a bit. But apparently better. Unfortunately, from what I remember, Linux updated quite often and when changing the kernel version in GRUB, apart from entries for one Linux, there were new entries, which made the list much larger. For reference, I am adding a screenshot of the entry to ONE system.

Running Ubuntu Linux Distribution on Sony Vaio SVS1513 from Pendrive: Installation Guide

Maybe this will tell you something http://www.tecmint.com/run-linux-live-images-from-hard-disk-in-linux/

dedito · Answer

Just uninstall the old kernel, and the GRUB bootlist entry will also be gone. Not true. Not true. Also not true

rychu0 · Answer

Anyway, mi windows XP and GRUB 7 detected when I did a thick update in the terminal

KL86 · Answer

I'm not going to argue or prove here. I did not write that it is impossible, and indicated that some functions are, to put it mildly, limited. The system installed on the internal disk allows you to change graphics drivers, and allows you to install additional components, drivers and programs. The Live version just isn't for that. I did not say that you cannot delete entries, but if you want to advise someone, you should first look at the question from his perspective, and at least bring him closer to what he will encounter at the beginning, as long as he has not had any previous contact with Linux. The best thing to do is to install Linux somewhere as the default system and compare it with what is in the Live version. Maybe I went overboard with Youtube, but since Unity was introduced as the default shell, I haven't installed any more Ubuntu. So how is it exactly with the current browser plugins, for example, I can't answer. What is certain is that the Live version does not save any work results until the next launch, and a copy of the browsing history must be made manually to a specific place.

dedito · Answer

A colleague must read this because his knowledge is very outdated. As with most of the statements. You have some knowledge, buddy, but from a few years ago and maybe you are confusing the basic things. But before that, somehow you could say: Therefore, please do not mislead the author and at least verify that your knowledge is up-to-date before publishing it on the forum.

Ted07 · Answer

I have installed Ubuntu on a 4 GB pendrive and the system starts up beautifully. I understand that the system works like a cd-live disc without the possibility of writing, but I would like to write some data on it.

Is it possible to save data on this pendrive with the linux system installed as on a normal computer?

dedito · Answer

Look in google for how to enable the persistence option.

linuks · Answer

If you can't save to pen, it means that you haven't installed Linux, but just downloaded live version. If you need to install Linux on penie then install it. When installing, choose a penie-thick installation (e.g. sdb depending on how the installer will see it) and after booting from such a pen, Linux will run as installed on disk only much slower.
The most important thing is not to confuse the pen with the disk during the installation and install grub on the penie and not on the disk. The default option is set to grub on the main boot sector of the first disk (sda) then you need to change to pena. Probably the pen will be seen as sdb if you have only one disk in your computer.
Regards