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Understanding the Role of Fuses in UK Plugs & Replacing them with Polish Plugs Safely

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  • #1 14427212
    Dukas
    Level 8  
    Hello.
    1. What are fuses in UK plugs used for?
    2. Can I cut off the UK plug and replace it with a Polish one without fear?

    Regards.
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  • #2 14427246
    McMarycha
    Level 31  
    As for the 2 questions, yes. You can cut off the plug from the UK and set up a Polish one. Same as to be put on an adapter.
    As for the 1st question, the fuse is probably just an additional protection, but I'm not sure.
  • #3 14427285
    pszczyna
    Level 32  
    Answer-1 For the protection of the installation.
    Answer-2 I have cut such plugs many times to change to a (Polish) plug, only what you need to pay attention to is the compliance of the cores.
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  • #4 14427728
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    And I ask why cut?

    Understanding the Role of Fuses in UK Plugs & Replacing them with Polish Plugs Safely
  • #5 14427772
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    It is nice to paint the protective pins in the color of the wall :?: :D
  • #6 14428089
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    And because it's me?
    Paprok arrived ... incidentally.
    His roller slipped off.
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  • #7 14429228
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #8 14429240
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    And where protection?
  • #9 14429471
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #10 14429576
    zdzisiek1979
    Level 39  
    Sorry, but just out of curiosity.
    The fuse is in the plug, not in the powered device?
    How much does such a fuse cost in the store?
  • #11 14429620
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #12 14429858
    zdzisiek1979
    Level 39  
    A ceramic fuse is probably not available for PLN 1, because for an ordinary glass fuse they charge me for 50 gr (probably cheaper when bought in a piece shop in bulk), and a ceramic fuse certainly has better switching properties than a glass one.
    I wonder if the use of a fuse in the plug is an honest decision by a group of scientists or just a lobbying effect from the manufacturer.
  • #13 14429922
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #14 14430636
    Dukas
    Level 8  
    15kVmaciej wrote:
    pszczyna wrote:
    Answer-1 For the protection of the installation.

    The correct answer is that to protect the receiver ...

    To protect the receiver from what?
    I thought that the receiver could not draw a current greater than that on the rating plate ...

    Added after 45 [seconds]:

    elpapiotr wrote:
    And I ask why cut?

    Understanding the Role of Fuses in UK Plugs & Replacing them with Polish Plugs Safely

    Transitions like to get lost ...
  • #15 14430721
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    I thought that the receiver could not draw a current greater than that on the rating plate ...
    You thought right, but too short.
    What if there is a short circuit inside the receiver?
    What current will flow if the socket circuit is protected by a 40A circuit breaker?
  • #16 14431147
    BILGO
    Level 38  
    Dukas wrote:
    Transitions like to get lost ...

    It mounts permanently to the plug ;)
  • #17 14431953
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #18 14431970
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Can I know these recipes?
  • #19 14432271
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #20 14432389
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    ... N is too short and even tight, so it will break quickly, even faster with a sleeve than without ... There was not enough space to form a gentle arch?
    Don't write crap, buddy.
    Everything is as it should be.
    Understanding the Role of Fuses in UK Plugs & Replacing them with Polish Plugs Safely
    Unfortunately, the Vistula "electrician" is able to criticize any solution, even if he completely does not understand it.

    Personally, I have several of them at home and at work. And they are not "crap" at all.

    So I am asking why speak up on topics that you have a vague idea about ???

    (Please don't answer this question!)
  • #21 14432607
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #22 14432633
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #23 14432719
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    I have been using it for five years and still use it today.
    And get it into your head that these plugs are not applicable at construction sites because there you cannot use receivers with such a plug.
  • #24 14432934
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #25 14432949
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    There is a profession where such plugs have a maximum service life of 2-3 months and the cable is broken.

    Stop saddening your friend, because that's not what the topic is about.

    About 64 million British people live on the island. Let there be an average of one receiver equipped with such a plug for each of them.
    None of them has so far raised any objections to its (plug) construction during proper operation.
    But a Pole can!
  • #26 14435624
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #27 14436064
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    Not a convincing argument, taking into account the installation made in Poland, for a socket with a protective contact, protected by a circuit breaker and an RCD.
    I was hoping for an answer regarding the statement
    WojcikW wrote:
    In Poland, the fuse in the plug (in 230V circuits) is a solution that does not comply with the regulations.
  • #28 14436128
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Quote:
    In Poland, the fuse in the plug (in 230V circuits) is a solution that does not comply with the regulations.
    I also counted on a concrete confirmation of this statement.
    Meanwhile, it turned out, as always, that the crap would not be able to defend itself.
    Even when, without thinking, another crap is quoted to justify the correctness of the crap preached first.
    Quote:
    ... at one time SEP recommended to connect the phase on the left side. As a result, when we connect the plug with a fuse in Poland and the fuse is on the neutral wire, the insulation of the device is damaged and the phase wire is connected to the earthed housing, short-circuit or overload current will flow and the fuse in the plug will not work.

    Before you continue to wade in raspberries, I suggest you invest a few zlotys in the plug and extension / grommet in order to see tangibly how my friend on the Vistula-electric theory does not agree with practice in any way!

    I really did not expect such nonsense in my colleague's edition.
  • #29 14436347
    Łukasz-O
    Admin of electroenergetics
    WojcikW wrote:
    I did not expect such a question. It is like saying that in accordance with the regulations, when it is sparking in the socket and the plug heats up, the plug and socket should be cooled with cold water. There is no law forbidding it, so it is by law. :D

    Since you refer to any regulations, it is normal for questions to be asked. So we are waiting impatiently for the specifics, buddy WojcikW .

    WojcikW wrote:
    The device produced for the British market is adapted to connect the phase on the right and the neutral wire on the left. In Poland, it is not standardized on which side the phase should be, and the SEP once recommended connecting the phase on the left side. As a result, when we connect the plug with a fuse in Poland and the fuse is on the neutral wire, the insulation of the device is damaged and the phase wire is connected to the earthed housing, short-circuit or overload current will flow and the fuse in the plug will not work. The use of such a fuse is harmful because it misleads the device that the device is protected by a fuse in the plug. The use of an RCD in a TNC installation, for example, is similarly harmful.


    I wonder how the internal device fuses in some devices relate to this.
  • #30 14437249
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  

Topic summary

Fuses in UK plugs serve as a protective measure for electrical devices, safeguarding against overloads and short circuits. Users can replace a UK plug with a Polish one, but must ensure proper compliance of the wiring and connections. Concerns were raised about the implications of using a fuse in the plug, particularly regarding the potential for misleading protection if the device is not designed for such configurations. The discussion highlighted the differences in electrical standards between the UK and Poland, emphasizing the importance of adhering to local regulations and ensuring devices are compatible with the respective electrical systems.
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