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Milwaukee Power Tools: Electrician's Guide to Top Choice Hammer Drills, Rotary Hammers, Grinders

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  • #1 14450487
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    Hello,
    I got a grant from the union for tools for the company (electrician - home electrical installations in halls, tents, etc.). I'd like something high end to last a few years. I paid the most attention to Milwaukee, many people recommended, is this equipment worth the price? I've read a bit on the internet about this company and I haven't found anything credible (one praises and the post below that it's worth nothing) In general, I need:
    - Hammer drill, 2-3kg class (here I just bought PLH 32 xe recently, but I would like to know opinions about the rest because I will have to buy 1 more for the employee and 2300 is a pity for the employee because he will not respect if not him)
    - Rotary hammer sds-max 7-8kg for punctures, larger forging,
    -I was thinking about a hammer (with the same impact) for "mass forging" of cans, grooves, preferably 4-5.5kg, to be handy as you have to hammer all day
    -angle grinders 125 and 230mm
    - drill without impact (may be with mechanical impact) (600-900w) preferably 2-speed
    -drill/driver min 12v and impact wrench (impact/rotary screwdriver)
    -industrial vacuum cleaner
    -Accessories (drills, chisels, bits, etc.). Makita looks decently priced, how is the quality? Better than e.g. Bosch, Milwaukee?
    I am asking for help in choosing only power tools due to the fact that hand tools, meters, etc. have already been selected.
    Any opinion, advice will be helpful! :) Regards.
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  • #2 14450556
    mlewan
    Level 20  
    Personally, I use a Milwaukee drill driver and ... a jacket at work ;) Both are solid and worth recommending. Is Makita a price/quality alternative? I think so. I use a cordless hammer drill from this company and I am also satisfied.
  • #3 14450745
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    I have a heavy 28V milwaukee screwdriver used regularly for 2.5 years. Very good equipment, solid handle, beaver balance and a good impact (of course mechanical). the only drawback is the strange battery mounting - there is a slight slack after insertion, which is a bit annoying for this class of equipment for 2200 ... But you can get used to it. I replaced the brushes, the entire brush-holder for PLN 50 needs to be replaced.
    I have an SDSmax 8.5kg hammer, it chisels and drills well, but it has a goofy front clamp mount that permanently rotates when blocked while drilling and is designed in such a way that it takes up a lot of space, greatly increasing the width of the hammer in the front - sometimes tight in difficult places . The old dawalt of this class is weaker, but ergonomics on 5. Better front grip, and two levels of torque 40/80Nm - a revelation.
    Overall, very durable equipment, in the middle price class, made in Germany, although a few things could be improved.
    Definitely don't buy everything from one company.
    From small makita hammers, milwaukee, meta, rather makita squares. Big and heavy 11kg can be hitachi - you can buy 20J (EPTA) for 3.5 thousand.
    Makita sds accessories are Chinese of better quality. I have a set of small drills, cheap and reasonably good. For these large SDSmax, they probably want too much in relation to quality.
    Look for abraboro, metabo, hawera, quatro-only drills and preferably with a variable pitch of the screw - much more efficient and more durable, less risk of blocking.
    For most brands, drills are made by 1-2 companies and they only "brand" them, and it's all the same, so it's better to buy a hawera than the same with a bosch / makita stamp for 20% more.
    Abraboro crowns, 3-piece - SDS crown / drill / shank (you unscrew it by hand after a few weeks of work) without stupidly fastened drills guiding the screw.
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  • #4 14450776
    mlewan
    Level 20  
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    there is a slight slack after insertion, which is a bit annoying for this class of equipment for 2200.

    And how does it behave after pollination? Can you easily remove the battery? In Makita, it is sometimes very difficult to remove the battery, because it blurs. Maybe this slack is intentional?
  • #5 14450991
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    The play is only on the rail, on the mechanical mount, the contacts are well hidden.
    There has never been a problem with removing the battery, maybe that's what the slack is for. :idea:
  • #6 14451071
    Thunder55
    Level 12  
    Cordless drills are good from milwaukee, recommendable.
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  • #7 14451115
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    So screwdrivers from Milwaukee :) I found nice set screwdriver with a rotary wrench. I already have screwdrivers :)
  • #8 14451639
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Makita is also good, but more expensive. Milwaukee can be bought cheaper, in the promotion - little-known equipment with us and everyone buys what is known (like Passats, golfs).
    I also have an older Bosch GSR VLI 36V from a higher shelf - very durable, (high voltage = low brush wear) but the milwaukee HD28 is stronger.
  • #9 14452421
    pawelradomsko
    Automation specialist
    Hello!
    I use the set mentioned by t0m3kj only enlarged with a fox tail - it has been working perfectly for about four years. In addition, a slightly cheaper alternative (also not widespread)
    there is Fish, for example here: http://www.jula.pl/catalog/narzedzia-i-maszyn...narzedzia-i-maszyny/?f.category.code=A-031200
    I bought a large set of 18V and I am satisfied.
    And if more severe conditions are AEG, for example: http://wkretarka.com.pl/aeg-2/ and also rather 18V.
    Regards.
  • #10 14452603
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    So the purchase of milwaukee screwdrivers should be successful :)
    I was thinking about a hammer for an employee what do you think gentlemen about this ? When I was still a student, the boss had a Makite HR2470 and a Bosch 2-26 DFR also flickered nicely and for a long time, but maybe Milwaukee is better, I'll add it (maybe another model is better/proven?).
    @mlewan these jackets are really cool, I think I'll also get it because sometimes on the scaffolding winter makes itself felt a bit :)
    As for the hammer, I found:
    Bosch GSH 388
    Makita HM871C
    HIlti TE-500 (here the price is a bit scary ~ 3,000 7.5J / 5.6KG with AVR much more than 3,000, but if he buys all the cans, he may return)
    I have a question about hilti hammers. I heard that they have a very good impact, can this translate into efficiency / speed of forging compared to, for example, Bosch with the same impact force in J (after all, x2 price)?
  • #11 14453428
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Hilti is not what it used to be (probably all brands) and in my opinion it's not worth it. For 3 you will buy 2 good makita hammers, and 2 will always do more than one, and in case of failure you are still working and the other in the service.
  • #12 14453600
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    In the makita hammer, hm, I don't like the switch: either on or off all the time, I think I'll choose the GSH 388 because there I can "click" as I want and optionally block the switch (I know that it should be hammered all the time with the engine on, but sometimes it is just inconvenient or more difficult).
    What angle grinders / sds-max and wood / metal drill (preferably 2 gears) do you recommend?
  • #13 14455538
    Thunder55
    Level 12  
    Like angle grinders are Bosch. I recommend a small one GWS 850 CE decent, cheap (made in China but only assembled in China and has original parts) with speed control is useful. 230mm, I recommend GWS 22-230 LVI (more expensive than H / JH but worth it). I don't have any experience with milwaukee angle irons, but I've heard they're good.
  • #14 14456663
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Thunder55 wrote:
    Like angle grinders are Bosch.

    I don't agree here. I had a comparison 10 years ago, where we had comparable makite and bosch in the company. Bosch work culture is much worse than makita. And it seems to have stayed that way until now, although I haven't had a Bosch in my hand for a long time, I avoid this brand.
    The model you gave is not comfortable to grip because it has a smooth body and is relatively thick. Take the GA5030 (weaker 700W) in your hand and you will see the difference. I also have a stronger makita 125 1200W with the sjs system (such a clutch on the motor shaft between the rotor and a small toothed wheel) does not cause sudden jamming of the disc, smooth operation under high variable load
  • #15 14457345
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    . Bosch work culture is much worse than makita. And it seems to have stayed that way until now, although I haven't had a Bosch in my hand for a long time, I avoid this brand.

    If you haven't had a given brand in your hand for a long time, it's better not to talk like this.
    Bosch has introduced many new machines and working with them is really comfortable, but I realize that everyone has their own habits, so it's worth focusing on the advantages of the machines you use and leave the opinion about other machines to those who have been working with them for a long time.
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  • #16 14459270
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    However, over these 10 years, the brands have changed 180° and are no longer the same when it comes to performance, functionality and durability above all. Technology is moving forward faster and faster (who would have thought of a drill with 4j strokes on a 36v battery 5 or 10 years ago?!). Thanks for the replies. So I will take a large angle lens from Bosch, I'm curious how this anti-vibration works :D . As for the small one... Milwaukee has a nice option to buy a dust cover for every 125mm model. I don't buy a wall chaser and it can be an interesting option to replace wall chasers as a last resort. Can someone say something about them?
  • #17 14472191
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    Hello, I looked at some milwaukee power tools in stores and I was concerned about one thing. On the rating plate on equipment of this class (supposedly "Made in Germany") it should say "Made in Germany" and there is only a German address. I heard it's a sign that it might be Chinese. Is it true ? How to tell the original milwaukee made in germany from some chinese? Please help, I would not like to lose a few thousand on Chinese products that are much more expensive than the competition.
  • #19 14486697
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #20 14488671
    Thunder55
    Level 12  
    I recently bought a Milwaukee impactless drill (HD2E 13 R) it weighs a bit but I am very happy with it. It's just a pity that there is no suitcase for it, because it would be useful to hide the accessories somewhere, but I will combine something with a variobox, some form of foam or styrodur, so that it lies nicely, rigidly with the accessories :)
  • #21 14488820
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #22 14490554
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Jacek-od-palnika wrote:
    In practice, it looks like that when there are boshe, hilti, graphity, metabo in the plant, everyone comes for my makitas.

    Don't be delusional, suddenly an electromagnetic wave appears and everything suddenly freezes for the duration of your presence... :D
    That's how it is, especially in plants, where the equipment belongs to everyone when it is needed, and to no one when something needs to be repaired, or something starts to crunch.
    I have had Bosch, Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Metabo, AEG, and even Parkside power tools for many years, and if you take care of the equipment, replace the grease, you end up replacing bearings, brushes, sds holders.
    You also need to know what and how to use it. If someone uses a 2.8J sds + hammer for 80mm bits in concrete (and I know such ones), then later complaining that this or that crap.
  • #23 14490668
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #24 14494021
    ciasteczkowypotwor
    Level 41  
    @t0m3kj I have a Milwaukee PLH 32 QEX, I repaired it because I bought it used. Device not very respected by the previous owner.

    I found one defect, a poor quality sealant at the end of the motor shaft in front of the bevel gear. And most likely a negligible amount of grease in this gear. The end was that, although the drill was only a year and a half old, the gear is already significantly worn out. In my opinion, you should disassemble the new one and apply the right amount of grease there. The advantage is that the mode can be replaced.

    The bottom bearing could also be sealed because the fan blows dust into it.

    Other than that, the workmanship is really good, worth the price.


    Milwaukee is an American manufacturer. And where is it produced, where is it cheaper.
  • #25 14497716
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    Thanks a lot :) I decided on the Milwaukee PD2E 22 R drill. The only thing that surprised me was that the HD2E 13 R model is weaker, lighter, without a hammer, without a suitcase and clearly more expensive.
  • #26 14500107
    Thunder55
    Level 12  
    I bought it (HD2E 13 R) because of the "good old" design because such milwaukee tools enjoyed good reviews. In my opinion, most products with this design were withdrawn from production because they lasted too long and the customer did not have to buy another one after the warranty :) I don't know how it is with this new one, but it didn't convince me.
    @Andrzej_;) lukaszewicz , @jacek-from-burner Have you ever owned a PD2E 22/24 R/S model? I'd like to hear some feedback on them. They are quite heavy in relation to the power but does that go hand in hand with durability?
  • #27 14500803
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #28 14501008
    t0m3kj
    Level 9  
    @jacek-from-burner That's true :D only in the profession of an electrician it is really rare to drill more than 13mm, I need a drill mainly for drilling boxes in plasterboard, drilling through wooden beams, frames, and sometimes a box in the wall with a diamond crown will happen. 850w / 60Nm will contact this :)
    I see that AEG even has the same construction as milwaukee (PD2E and SB 20/22) should be fine since both companies this class they use it :) I chose the model with impact because they should be more dustproof than those without impact, and without it you can't do it.
  • #29 14501422
    Topolski Mirosław
    Moderator of Electrical engineering
    AEG is now a Milwaukee-owned company and was previously at Atlas Copco, anyway, just compare the products and everything is clear.
  • #30 14501607
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the selection of high-end Milwaukee power tools for electricians, particularly focusing on hammer drills, rotary hammers, angle grinders, and impact drills. Users share their experiences with Milwaukee tools, highlighting their durability and performance, while also comparing them to alternatives like Makita and Bosch. Concerns about battery performance, ergonomics, and service quality are raised, particularly regarding specific models. Recommendations include the Milwaukee PD2E 22 R drill and various angle grinders, with some users expressing skepticism about the quality of Milwaukee tools produced in China. The conversation also touches on the importance of tool reliability in professional settings and the need for effective service support.
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