Stihl MS 271 vs Husqvarna 450 e-series: Which Chainsaw Is Better for Home Use?

Hello everyone, beautiful!
I plan to buy a petrol saw in the near future. And the more I read about it, the more doubts I have. After a few hours of studying various information and opinions about chain saws, I came to the conclusion that I prefer to pay once, but rightly. The equipment will be used mainly for household chores (e.g. wood preparation for winter). I currently have a cutter, but cutting wood is quite tedious and laborious. I mainly cut oak wood and blunt a knife quite quickly. From among the companies offering chainsaws for sale, I chose two: Stihl and Husqvarna. I took two models for consideration:
http://www.stihl.pl/Produkty-STIHL/Pilarki-%C...rolnictwa-i-ogrodnictwa/21903-120/MS-271.aspx
http://www.husqvarna.com/pl/products/chainsaws/450-e-series/
Perhaps you will find that spending almost PLN 2,000 on a saw that will not be used too often is an exaggeration, but I have already found out several times the hard way that buying cheaply is expensive in retrospect.
I have read a lot of positive opinions about the above Husqvarna model. They only recommend replacing the chain with the oregon. Some users also dislike this plastic chain tensioner. It is worth noting that I am very close to Husqvarna's store and service. Recently I drove up to ask about a petrol lawn mower. I would never have imagined that I would meet such kind and professional staff. However, I can not find information in the description whether there is a guide in the set and what length it is. Only the recommended length is provided. Unless I missed that entry somewhere.
As for the Stihl, it looks really elegant. The technical parameters are also great. It is stronger than the Husqvarna by 0.24 HP. There will also be no problem with access to the website.
Which one should you choose ???
Thank you in advance for hints, suggestions and interest in the topic.
Regards!!!

It is true that when chains are OREGON, and when you cut oak, after cutting with this chain you will understand why everyone in my town cuts with STIHLEM, they use these saws not only for their own needs, i.e. winter supplies, but also go with them for regular logging, I was shocked when I saw these balls in action! I have a 7-kilo DOLPINA with a good chain on a long sword and I am always murdered after cutting, and my neighbors' balls, though smaller and with a shorter sword, were tearing the oak like Reksio's ham; D seeing it, I felt like a guy with a hammer in his hand during plastic surgery; D u they buy me saws up to PLN 800 and believe me, no one has mercy for them and these basic models work perfectly!

Exactly as my colleague writes above. I have for home work, i.e. cutting wood for the winter, and the production of branches in the forest, and various construction works at the Stihl MS230 and MS250 house, guides probably 35cm, And they go like mad.

t1o9m8e6k wrote:

Perhaps you will find that spending almost PLN 2,000 on a saw that will not be used too often is an exaggeration, but I have already found out several times the hard way that buying cheaply is expensive in retrospect.

The neighbor on the other side has a "KRZAK" saw, and when it rags, the whole neighborhood hears it, and she saw it as if she had to work as a punishment, even when cutting not thick material. Once we had a joint cut at a friend's, I can say that although his sticker showed more KM, she did not even have the power to match my 230. The only thing she had more was fuel used ... And as a colleague wrote, in the long run it is more expensive because fuel is more expensive and oil is twice as much, because the mixture of Stihl and Husqvarna needs 1:50, and "BUSHES" 1:25. I will not mention the frequency of faults in "BUSHES", because maybe these are not serious faults, but there is always something ... It goes out, it does not want to fire, it does not revolve .... Eh ... And Stihl? As they say, you pour and drive ... And it does not smoke like "KRZAKI". And as for the choice between these two companies. I think the level is equally high, but somehow I prefer the Stihl ...

I have "Krzak" (NAC) who has been working for 5 years and every year he jumped several dozen meters of tree at our place + similarly at my neighbor. He bought his own and has not complained for 2 years. The whole housing is made of aluminum and not like in the Chinese husqvarna made of plastic. So far I go and I do not break down and it cost PLN 350 in castorama. Husqvarna is already a Chinese plastic crap and I "obliterated" probably 4 pieces, including one brushcutter. In the service (there was a guarantee) it turned out that the rings broke and fell apart inside. The old Husqvarna were unmistakable (I have a little husqvarna 25 years old) but the new ones leave a lot to be desired. Especially that when buying a saw for 2k, we do not have any guarantee that it comes for more than 1-2 years because this is more or less the warranty for Husqvarna, which is as much as for the first better "Bush" from the supermarket.

bearq wrote:

I have "Krzak" (NAC) who has been working for 5 years and every year he jumped several dozen meters of tree at our place + similarly at my neighbor. He bought his own and has not complained for 2 years. The housing is all aluminum and not like in the Chinese husqvarna made of plastic. So far I go and I do not break down and it cost PLN 350 in castorama. Husqvarna is already a Chinese plastic crap and I "obliterated" probably 4 pieces, including one brushcutter. In the service (there was a guarantee) it turned out that the rings broke and fell apart inside. The old Husqvarna were unmistakable (I have a little husqvarna 25 years old) but the new ones leave a lot to be desired. I did not delve into their exact construction, despite the fact that I have already dismantled a few, but I am curious what is there that it costs 2k because we probably do not pay for this plastic on each side.

I would not glorify the fact of aluminum bodies, plastic is not equal, and if my friend cut so much, I will ask the question - how much did my friend go to the plastic bodies ??? ... as for the rings in "hussars", I have heard about such cases

Two bodies went in two saws, one was thrown 15cm on the branch and the other when it broke, I have no idea.

bearq wrote:

Two bodies went in two saws, one was thrown 15cm on the branch and the other when it broke, I have no idea.

Okay, I have no reason to say you are lying among those flawed drank ones, was one of them one of the protagonists of our plot? we would also add a spoonful of tar to a barrel of honey in which we are "bathing" the stichla so far

Thank you very much for your interest in the topic. In line with the above posts, the advantage of the Stihl is growing. To tell the truth, I am leaning towards Stihl too. Does anyone have experience working with this model and could share it? Or maybe consider one of the other Stihl models?
http://www.stihl.pl/Produkty-STIHL/Pilarki-%C...ki-spalinowe-dla-rolnictwa-i-ogrodnictwa.aspx

I have this Husqvarna 450. Don't be afraid of the plastic tensioner - it's a revelation, you don't have to carry the wrench with you. It replaced the worn-out 340, which also did not break down, but worn out after almost 15 years of use. The plastic engine crankcase is also an advantage - the machine is lighter. And each saw has plastic tanks and covers - except maybe for antiquities.

AUTOGRZEBOLOG wrote:

bearq wrote:

Two bodies went in two saws, one was thrown 15cm on the branch and the other when it broke, I have no idea.

Okay, I have no reason to say you are lying was one of them one of the heroines of our plot? we would also add a spoonful of tar to a barrel of honey in which we are "bathing" the stichla so far

Sometimes I deal with "4" which has been working very well for the past 7 years and I won't say a bad word. Despite this, I still say that at the moment somehow these chainsaws have fallen sharply and buying one for 2k home is pointless.

danielk102 wrote:

Once we had a joint cut at a friend's, I can say that although his sticker showed more KM, she did not even have the power to match my 230. The only thing she had more was fuel used ... And as a colleague wrote, in the long run it is more expensive because fuel is more expensive and oil is twice as much, because the mixture of Stihl and Husqvarna needs 1:50, and "BUSHES" 1:25. I will not mention the frequency of faults in "BUSHES", because maybe these are not serious faults, but there is always something ... It goes out, it does not want to fire, it does not revolve .... Eh ... And Stihl? As they say, you pour and drive ... And it does not smoke like "KRZAKI". And as for the choice between these two companies. I think the level is equally high, but somehow I prefer the Stihl ...

On the other hand, Stihl and Husqvarna recommend their own proprietary oils for ~ PLN 37 per liter, and the Chinese "good quality oil for two-stroke engines", that is in practice PLN 15 per liter.
Stihl 230 has 2.7KM, which corresponds to Chinese saws with a capacity of 45-50cm ^ 3.
The Chinese have a lower rotational speed, which, combined with the greater capacity, gives a noticeable greater noise with a more bassy sound. It can also be different with mufflers. Chinese available in Poland have a more universal configuration - with guides currently 45, until recently, even 50 cm. The 35 cm Sthila guide rail in Polish conditions usually gives it an advantage. Usually.
I'm not saying that the Chinese are better than Stihl and Husqvarna, these products simply have a different target and price.