Connecting Internet from Netia and Neostrada Simultaneously in One Apartment

Hi. I will immediately point out that I am not an expert in the field of IT, so my question may seem quite trivial, namely is it possible to connect the Internet from 2 different providers in one apartment? (e.g. Netia and Neostrada etc.) . Currently I have Neostrada connected to my telephone line, which is used by several people in the house, and unfortunately it does not work very fast (the Internet speed is probably 6 or 8 mb), which for today's times seems to be quite slow, in addition to the fact that when several people use the Internet at the same time frequent lags begin to occur, the speed drops significantly, etc. Hence, my question is whether I could somehow connect the Internet from another provider (eg Netia.), so that both work at the same time and do not interfere with each other (eg load one slows down the other)?
Recently I read about something like Dropss Netia but I do not know whether it would work for me, so I hope that someone will help a man not too familiar with the subject

Greetings.

It is impossible to have two ADSL providers on the same line. The only option is cable (DOCSIS) or twisted pair and some ETTH or fiber and GPON but it depends on what providers have the technical capabilities in your area.

Technically connecting two providers to a single router, of course, appropriate is possible. However, as the previous speaker noted on a single phone line unfeasible. What else with fixed and mobile Internet as a backup. But in your case, perhaps the right router configuration is enough to keep everyone happy.
Test your connection first at different times of the day using speed test sites, post the results, add what you expect from your internet and list what devices you have on your network(makes and models) then we can help with the configuration, or state that this is the max you can hope for now.

It can't be done in any easy way, and on top of that the price of the equipment is quite high.

It seems to me that probably the router is rather well configured because the configurator is an IT specialist, what bothers me the most is that when several people fire up the Internet and start downloading or uploading something then my ping rises from the normal 40-60 to 250-400 and it is very annoying taking into account that most of the time associated with the Internet I spend on gaming and then I get frequent lags.... The second thing is that I would like to have my own separate Internet, if it is not feasible through the same phone line, what reasonable options are left? From which providers I could possibly choose ?

Greetings.


Added after 3 [minutes]:

I'll add that I do not care about some super-fast connection may be the few Mbps, as long as there was a solid connection (low ping) and did not disconnect too often.

Greetings.

Any other provider in your location that does not use the current subscriber line from Orange.
Search for some cable providers(UPC/MM/Vectra/itp)
Settlement networks
Radio providers

The fact that an IT specialist configured it does not mean that he did it for optimized needs. He could, for example, quickly enter data from the provider and secure the wifi. Without adding QoS for example

Well, and you didn't check what kind of connection you have from the provider. Perhaps you just need to change the Neostrada to a larger one:) .

@gretz92 Play Internet prepaid unlimited - 45zł/month.

sosarek wrote:

@gretz92 Play Internet prepaid unlimited - 45zł/month.

No not so unlimited - 100GB/month .

@sosarek Could you tell something more about this play card internet in snes how it works ?

@zuczek1987 I understand your suggestion to change the neostrada to a larger one but that unfortunately will not be possible , I would just like as I say to have some own separate . I checked the UPC but where I live (Wroclaw) there is no coverage - maybe because I live on the outskirts of the city quite far from the center, I do not know in any case, they wrote me that it can not be installed at my address, when it comes to these cables in general, on what principle it works if you could explain to me in a relatively simple way I would appreciate it.

Greetings.

@seb235 Fact, but with just playing it will not exceed that, and the price is quite affordable, once the limit is exceeded, the speed drops to 2Mbps.

The cable provider usually brings the signal to your house via coaxial cable, where it uses a splitter to split the signal into net and TV.
Radio provider installs a directional antenna on your roof and brings a RJ45 cable from the roof to your house, which goes to the power supply, the power supply to the electricity and the second RJ45 cable to your router/computer.
Local provider (housing estate network) brings RJ45 cable to your house, which goes to your router/computer.
Fiber optic based provider brings a "fiber optic" cable to your home terminates it with the appropriate plugs and connects it to the converter, then from the converter to your router/computer with an RJ45 cable

Well, then your ADSL provider
With the help of a telephone line delivers the signal to your home, there with the help of a LB modem or ADSL router converts the signal from RJ11 to RJ45.


this is so in strong simplification.



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sosarek

almost right, but still assume for calculations the load of the BTS
Distance from the BTS
Available technologies in the nearest BTS of the operator

there are some unknowns to take it blindly.
On the other hand, probably every operator also now has internet on trial for 7 days.

@zuczek1987 Thanks for the explanation
So you write that with just gaming I will not exceed the 100GB package (from time to time I also download something but not terribly much , Let's say a few movies a month, occupying a total of 10-15GB, on youtube I rarely visit), then maybe this prepaid Internet is a good option? I just want to know how in this situation will look like the reliability of the connection and how high pings can be expected .

Greetings.

Unfortunately, you can only tangibly check this.
I mean, you go to the operator, take the Internet on a trial basis, pay for activation and check.
In the programs from the net you have the transfer consumed, then assess whether 100GB is enough for you
And with the help of command line commands and sites testing connection speed check the quality of service, and, of course, playing:)
To this check whether the private address of the operator is enough for you or maybe you need a public address.
Range can always be improved a little with a directional antenna, unfortunately BTS occupancy and thus quality of service is a lottery every minute:( .

zuczek1987 wrote:

That is, you go to the operator, take the Internet on a trial basis, pay for activation and check.

Order a free starter on the Play website or go to a kiosk and buy a starter card for 9zł(1GB to use), put it in the modem/smartphone, connect it to the computer and that's it.

sosarek wrote:

zuczek1987 wrote:

That is, you go to the operator, take internet on trial, pay for activation and check.

Order a free starter on the Play website or go to a kiosk and buy a starter card for 9zł(1GB to use), put it in the modem/smartphone, connect it to the computer and that's it.

Right, but after visiting the operator's facility, he also gets a modem, probably also LTE for testing, so the actual equipment he would use.

@zuczek1987 Hardware can buy any, on Alle.... Huawei modem with LTE - cost about 150zł, in the salon even in prepaid offer twice as expensive. Personally, I use Huawei E5832 (up to 7.2 Mbps) and it is completely sufficient for me.

In Play, the operator does not mandatorily apply a 2Mbps funnel after 100GB. In fact, transfers of 300GB and more are normal. I use two cards for 12-16 months and transfers of this size . One is RBM I , starter for 9 zł, the other voice offer for 9.99 zł/month contract for 6 mths (currently unavailable). The cost of unlimited LTE internet in Play from 0 zł/month in RBM prepaid. In voice tariffs about 25 zł /month. Internet prepaid for 45 zł. LTE equipment, of course, own. The outskirts of the boat, to the BTS LTE1800Play 400m. Of course, first tests in a specific location. At my place now http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4261128335 A in games e.g. CS performs flawlessly.

sosarek wrote:

@zuczek1987 Hardware can buy any, on Alle.... Huawei modem with LTE - cost about 150zł, in the salon even in prepaid offer twice as expensive. Personally, I use Huawei E5832 (up to 7.2 Mbps) and it is completely sufficient for me.

Soserek right that the operator overprices the equipment, but before you buy a particular modem I think you would prefer to know whether to push for such a service from any operator or give yourself a break.
Activity is probably 9.9 as I remember correctly for testing which is the same as a card from a kiosk, you get the modem from them for 7 days. If it works oki you give up, from alledrogo you buy your own modem and from them only the service.
If it doesn't work then you check with the next operator.
When all of them have the same crap that doesn't satisfy you, then you have lost at most 50PLN for tests and are looking for alternatives in other ISP(providers).
But you are glad that you didn't spend 150 For a modem that sits on the shelf.

zuczek1987 wrote:

But you're glad you didn't spend 150 On the modem that sits on the shelf.

And what you put another card from another operator into.

Hardware (at the moment practically only LTS comes into play), you must have anyway.

It's better to take the whole set from the operator for a trial - give it away, and buy your own then, because you will pay less for it every month in some kind of fee - if you are satisfied with it.
@gretz92
Mobile net as well as net from local operator has one thing in common - you are not sure how it will work on a given day, a given period, a given time perspective (performance of the network itself, number of users of that network who are using it at the moment, weather, distance from the operator's antenna, etc.). - that's the brutal truth.

KOCUREK1970 wrote:

And what will you put another card from another operator into.

Equipment (at the moment practically only LTE comes into play), you must have anyway.

It's better to take the whole set from the operator on a trial basis - give it away, and buy your own then, because you'll pay less for it every month in some kind of fee - if you're happy with it.

I am alluding to the fact to take sets from operators on a trial basis.
If you like something then as you say buy on allledrogo the right equipment and from the operator only a card with service. The test one, of course, after 7 days is returned.
But if I'm not satisfied with any mobile, I do not buy a modem, because why.
With local is not quite as you say.
A large or decent provider (ISP) is able to guarantee you some minimum, it is known that random cases in the absence of service or poor performance will happen.
But each LTE operator sells you only dreams of the maximum that its service in favorable conditions can achieve. Unfortunately, it will not guarantee you that your conditions are favorable.

As for the first part we agree.

zuczek1987 wrote:

With local, however, it's not quite as you say.
Large or decent provider (ISP)

Only that there are neither large nor decent local providers (I'm leaving out cable) - and I mean all those who provide net via wifi with their own network (radio internet).
Please read for yourself: every 4th, 5th topic is "I have radio net, why the ping is so high, you can't play online.... etc."


The last paragraph with LTE - well...- most are not so lucky to have real internet, from a reliable provider, etc...

Of course you are right, you can not generalize, and put everyone in the same bag - only no one in this bag, as a customer also does not want to end up (caught in a bottle).

jurek.adam wrote:

If you want to play then do not pack into the mobile, because with the ping it happens differently.

Detailed, try as you can first something mobile, but I recommend you, however, Netia, once you decide on a second operator. At least you will not have a burdened connection.

Radio Internet is no longer what it was 5 years and earlier. Now the equipment and capabilities are such that ADSL can hide.
Satisfied customer with the radio Internet will not write on the forums
Note that only people who are dissatisfied create topics. According to these guidelines, then every internet in the world is poor because people complain on forums

Of course, the capabilities of the equipment is one thing....

Big companies somehow escape from DSL and others and take local providers even by radio because much greater capabilities (symmetrical links) and much more secure Internet.

As an example from my backyard.
There are actually 4 radio operators. People complain about 3, but to some people it even works as it should. The fourth operator focuses on quality and even charges for activation as the only one, and customers come.
The issue is that this good operator has almost every base supplied with fiber or radio line, has emergency power and lightning arresters everywhere. In addition to the main power supply to the base with light or radio line, there is also an additional backup for 5Ghz as if somewhere the fiber optics was cut. It has several independent operators in several quite different locations to exclude major power failures.
Well, and the monthly prices are very good
10Mbit - 49zl
20Mbit - 59zl
30Mbit - 69zl
40Mbit - 79zl
At night the speed x2 and these speeds are actually as they should be

The author can stubbornly buy a second neostrade, but it will involve the connection of another phone number if he no longer has an exit.

smario11 wrote:

Radio Internet is no longer what it was 5 years and earlier. Now the equipment and capabilities are such that ADSL can hide.

Because ADSL was created to take advantage of already existing telephone lines. It was a good thing, but it has its limitations and will end at some point in favor of fiber optics, I guess.
Radio, on the other hand, also has its limitations - radio bandwidth is not made of rubber, and it is impossible to work on the same channels in a given area. From point A to point B you have some radio bandwidth, how many channels (I'm not going into details, because it depends on the system), connect how many users and that's it! And more cables (rather, fiber optic) will always fit somehow. Only cash and time needed.
Radio is therefore not the ultimate solution. Rather, it's ad hoc, because installation is faster.

Maybe a little off topic, but in my opinion, radium technology has been predicted many times a quick end among ISPs, and so far it is holding up pretty well and especially in less populated areas (province). Networks well managed and equipped with good operator links will continue to cope for a long time. Much also depends on the attitude of the ISP itself and its greed for a quick buck, which is unlikely to be quickly feasible in such an investment.

jprzedworski wrote:

smario11 wrote:

Radio Internet is no longer what it was 5 years and earlier. Now the equipment and capabilities are such that ADSL can hide.

Because ADSL was created to take advantage of already existing telephone lines. It was a good thing, but it has its limitations and will end at some point in favor of fiber optics, I guess.
But radio also has its limitations - radio bandwidth is not made of rubber, and it is impossible to work on the same channels in a given area. From point A to point B you have some radio bandwidth, how many channels (I'm not going into details, because it depends on the system), connect how many users and that's it! And more cables (rather, fiber optic) will always fit somehow. Only cash and time needed.
Radio is therefore not the ultimate solution. Rather ad hoc, because the installation is faster.

The problem is of the type that when the radio entered as access to the Internet then ADSL was already there and ADSL2+ was only introduced.
Today there is VDSL2 which on the line above 1500m has no advantage over ADSL2+
This is where the radio entered because often the lines are longer. Having subscriber lines up to 500m then VDSL2 will be better.
The problem is that with copper they will not get anything more (aside from shortening the subscriber line).
Now such Orange has two ways. Shorten the subscriber lines, which also costs money, or simply pull the light, especially since they don't have to put up any poles or deal with permits.
Surely on a single OLT they can play with maximum speeds within a radius of 10km.

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