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Home Fiber Optic Network: Replacing LAN, Affordable Welding Alternatives & Termination Techniques

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  • #1 15683651
    Hetii
    Level 17  
    Hi there.

    I am planning to replace my existing home LAN with fibre optics.
    Can this be done without absurdly expensive welding machines ?
    I am curious about the termination of the fibre optics.
    Do I need some specialised expensive tools there or can this be done at home?

    P.S.
    Why are these welding machines so expensive, for my taste there is a simple arc from plasma.

    Greetings.
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  • #2 15684009
    tomjed
    Level 28  
    Hetii wrote:
    Can this be done without absurdly expensive welding machines ?
    .
    No.

    Hetii wrote:
    Do you need any specialist expensive tools there or can this be done at home ?
    .
    Yes you need specialist equipment, you can't do it at home....

    Hetii wrote:
    Why are these welders so expensive, for my taste a simple plasma arc is there.
    .
    If that's what you think then weld yourself that "your" plasma....

    And seriously, don't exaggerate, if you look well, you can have a weld done for 10-30 PLN.
  • #3 15686787
    WRadek
    Level 23  
    May I ask? How big is your home? And why do you want to trade? UTP5 twisted pair not enough? I am asking not to hurt you, I am only interested in motives?
    I think I will also have to do it in a small hotel ... For now, slowly, I am counting the costs.
  • #4 15687081
    Hetii
    Level 17  
    In my case, the size of the premises is of no importance at all (about 70m2) and the reason is totally trivial, namely Orange is planning to bring the Internet to my location with 600 Mb/s.

    This is why I thought whether, on the occasion of such a change, I should not upgrade the existing network, more out of curiosity and for testing than for a specific need.
  • #5 15687091
    jurmun
    Level 13  
    After all, 1Gbit / s will go after copper, and from fiber optics, there should be patchcords already available at the factory.
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  • #6 15687284
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #7 15687357
    kuba1im
    Level 19  
    It is one thing to have a welder, and to make good welds with it and measure the attenuation on the welds is another thing.
  • #8 15687360
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #9 15687521
    Freddy
    Level 43  
    Hetii wrote:
    I warmly welcome.

    He plans to replace his existing home LAN network with fiber optics.

    Can this be done without ridiculously expensive welding machines?

    I am puzzled by the issue of terminating optical fibers.
    Do you need any specialized expensive tools or can you do it at home?

    PS
    Why are these welders so expensive for my taste, then there is an ordinary plasma arc.

    Greetings.
    With your knowledge - unreal.
  • #10 15687578
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    And how does orange end? After all, it doesn't leave you with a piece of optical fiber sticking out of the wall.
    Same with the ending. Fiber optic networks are not cheap, there are also 1G 10G fiber inserts, depending on the fiber used. It is also not a cheap matter, so much so that sometimes copper cables are used instead of optical fibers for short distances
    Whoa, for example
    http://pactech-inc.com/product/direct-attach-...ac-cable-rapide-10g-sfp-passive-twinax-cable/
    And it's not cheap anyway.
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  • #11 15687590
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #12 15688353
    Hetii
    Level 17  
    Tommy82 wrote:
    And how does the orange end up? ....
    .
    Orange brings the light to the premises itself and then gives a so-called optical terminal:
    Home Fiber Optic Network: Replacing LAN, Affordable Welding Alternatives & Termination Techniques .

    Freddy wrote:
    With your knowledge - unrealistic.

    With such an attitude, according to you, it is best not to take up anything in life because you will still learn something...

    And just to give you some additional information, the fibre optic cables from Orange have two bundles with six wires each. In addition, they put 25 m of cable in each box on both sides so that in the event of damage, the damaged segment can be removed without dismantling the entire line.

    For the time being I will refrain from the subject, especially as this 600Mb/s is unfortunately without a fixed IP :( .
  • #13 15688619
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    Well, but this terminal is probably quite necessary, it has to establish some sessions.
    You won't fasten it to a fiber optic switch
  • #14 15688643
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #16 15688717
    Koziolaa
    Level 14  
    Hello. To Piotrus_999. "I mean, I have not seen anyone deliver optical fiber to the house (and why)." ? FTTH Does a colleague say something? :D
  • #17 15688728
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #18 15688740
    Koziolaa
    Level 14  
    I have not read the posts above. Sorry. you have a concept buddy Piotrus_999.
  • #19 15688742
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    With the price of equipment up to 10G, it is better to do 1G at home on a 1G twisted pair on a light - it is pointless.
  • #20 15688871
    kassans
    Level 32  
    Welding optical fibers is one other side of the coin - quite expensive devices for optics handling. Even on VDSL there are expensive devices not to mention optical fiber :D
  • #21 19239026
    Bomberyszon
    Level 11  
    I will refresh the topic a bit and introduce a new look at the sense of building a home network based on optical fiber.

    I need to run 4 strands in the skirting board and the problem is that it only houses one cable between the skirting board and the wall.

    And now there is a solution, 1mm transparent fiber optic cable (GHOST) with a small bend radius is available on the market. In addition, media converters below PLN 100 each, optical switch PLN 500 and sfp modules from PLN 50.

    At the end, of course, it must be completed with the appropriate fiber optic connections, but there will certainly be a specialist who will install the connector at a reasonable price.
    This is the only sensible way, in my opinion, to have a home LAN network at home, where you do not intend to renovate it just to make a LAN network.
  • #22 19252465
    kassans
    Level 32  
    You must fit the optical fiber under the optical fiber inserts. They are singlemode or multimode.
  • #23 19469021
    jagrok
    Level 10  
    Hi,

    Let me refresh the thread because of the questions to the author of the topic about his motives when he wanted to build a fiber optic network at home.

    Recently, I was building such a network at home, a fiber optic network between the main lines.
    Why did I choose Fiber for my home?
    Because it takes up little space, I didn't have to worry about forging walls, it is cheap apart from active elements.

    I have a welder, previously I used mechanical splices, for 8 years the link between the basement and the apartment in the block was working this way, WDM inserts

    Currently, I only have optical fibers between the main switches, the rest of the VLANs.

    For me, fiber optic lines look like this

    attic - garage (4J) (this includes orange fiber that led only to the garage, connection of GS724T switches - 2 SFP interfaces configured in LAG)
    attic - ground floor (living room office - GHOST duct)

    In the garage I have a server room, in the attic I have a switch, AP and other network elements
    Between the attic of the mentioned ghost, I have a link to another switch with an SFP insert (managed to separate the TV VLAN from Orange) VLAN with AP and Guest network
    In Media Converter's office, the Wifi network is basically for my wife's tablet, phone, computer.
    I need a wired NAS link, WiFi, although the WiFi 6 technology gives high speed, it does not provide stability.

    I admit I am not a normal, normal user :D - rather gray Kowalski who has tp-link switches, or the tp-link router will not allow himself to do it.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of replacing a home LAN with a fiber optic network, addressing concerns about the cost and complexity of fiber optic termination and welding. Users express skepticism about the necessity of fiber optics for home use, citing that existing copper solutions can handle high speeds (up to 1 Gbit/s) and that many home devices require media converters to interface with fiber. The high cost of welding machines and specialized tools for fiber termination is highlighted, with suggestions to rent equipment or hire professionals for installation. Some participants mention the availability of affordable media converters and optical switches, as well as the practicality of using thin fiber optic cables for home installations. The conversation also touches on the implications of bandwidth and the need for robust networking equipment to manage high-speed connections effectively.
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