logo elektroda
logo elektroda
X
logo elektroda

Connecting the induction plate - WAGO screw connection or quick connectors?

Portal 22185 19
Best answers

How should I connect a stranded copper induction hob wire to the house wiring: with a screw terminal, by tinning the strands, or with a WAGO quick connector?

Use a WAGO 221 lever connector for stranded conductors, or crimp ferrules/sleeves onto the wire ends if you want to use a screw terminal [#15850281][#15851023][#15850621] Do not insert bare stranded copper directly into a screw terminal [#15850939] Tinning is not recommended here; the thread says ferrules are the proper solution and tinning was only used when better methods were unavailable [#15850621]
Generated by the language model.
ADVERTISEMENT
Treść została przetłumaczona polish » english Zobacz oryginalną wersję tematu
  • #1 15850268
    Portal
    Level 16  
    Posts: 353
    Rate: 58
    Hello

    I have to connect the induction plate to the phase - the plate has wires, the so-called twisted copper lines, and a wire comes out of the wall ... and now I have a question how to do it better:

    a) a simple screw coupler and insert the stranded bare line in this way
    b) an ordinary screw coupler but the rope before inserting it into the coupler, e.g. tin
    c) use WAGO quick couplers (those with a clamping lever)

    And so I will ask - can usually copper cables (not wire) be joined in these screw terminals? Is it recommended, for example, to tin them before inserting them in such a clamp so that the wires have better contact?
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #2 15850281
    stonefree
    Level 27  
    Posts: 1495
    Help: 85
    Rate: 319
    WAGO 221-412
  • #3 15850398
    janyś251
    Level 11  
    Posts: 3
    Rate: 1
    It will be best for ordinary screw cubes.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #4 15850406
    Portal
    Level 16  
    Posts: 353
    Rate: 58
    janyś251 wrote:
    it will be best for ordinary screw cubes


    why do you think so ? and how is the connection - a or b?
  • #5 15850416
    janyś251
    Level 11  
    Posts: 3
    Rate: 1
    the connection on the screw cubes will withstand a higher load and the induction hob loads the installation quite heavily, so there is certainly less probability of heating the connections, as for tinning the wires, in my opinion there is no such need
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #6 15850455
    waski78
    Level 20  
    Posts: 395
    Help: 25
    Rate: 88
    The electrician told me that bolted connections tend to loosen over time (due to micro-vibrations) and he put on WAGO cubes as above. The line inserted into the ankle is whitened.
  • #7 15850495
    Portal
    Level 16  
    Posts: 353
    Rate: 58
    hm .... and what are these micro-vibrations from?
  • #8 15850532
    stonefree
    Level 27  
    Posts: 1495
    Help: 85
    Rate: 319
    janyś251 wrote:
    the connection on the screw cubes can withstand a greater load and the induction hob loads the installation quite heavily
    Neither one nor the other is true.
  • #9 15850552
    waski78
    Level 20  
    Posts: 395
    Help: 25
    Rate: 88
    Portal wrote:
    hm .... and what are these micro-vibrations from?

    I do not know. It was a quote from him - he said that the bolts could loosen over time, but I have no experience with this. I have checked these cubes (visually) recently and they did not look suspicious (no melting or signs of overheating).
  • #10 15850556
    Portal
    Level 16  
    Posts: 353
    Rate: 58
    well ... because the wires for the fuses are also bolted, contacts too ... so ... if you loosened it would be a failure after failure

    I mean it more if this screw connection does not destroy these thin wires when the clamp is twisted, which may result in a smaller contact area \ conductivity and thus later loosening ...
  • #11 15850621
    zbich70
    Level 43  
    Posts: 17116
    Help: 1164
    Rate: 6568
    Put appropriate sleeves on the ends of the stranded wires and press them with a suitable tool (press).
    Every self-respecting electrician has one and a handful of sleeves for different sections.

    Tinning was fashionable in the People's Republic of Poland when other methods were not available.
  • #12 15850833
    djlukas
    Level 27  
    Posts: 1606
    Help: 94
    Rate: 266
    janyś251 wrote:
    the connection on the screw cubes will withstand a higher load and the induction hob loads the installation quite heavily, so it is certainly less likely to heat the connections


    It will last as long as it was created. So how much electricity do you think such a plate consumes? You measured it once, because I did, and I'll say not as much as you think.
  • #13 15850902
    Popak
    Moderator on vacation ...
    Posts: 2762
    Help: 97
    Rate: 270
    Hello
    I would like to add that in the screw cubes there is something like compression (crushing) of the cable with a tightened screw, which may cause the cable to break over time.
    Ps. I'm not saying that screw cubes are free, but each solution has disadvantages.
    Personally, I would choose WAGO.
    And there are only sleeves for the rope.

    Regards
  • #14 15850939
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    Posts: 4143
    Help: 482
    Rate: 949
    Portal wrote:
    a simple screw coupler and insert the stranded bare line in this way


    In no case.

    janyś251 wrote:
    as for the tinning of wires, in my opinion there is no such need


    If it does not use the sleeves due to the lack of it, then tinning to the screw terminal is better than just the line to the terminal.

    Portal wrote:
    I mean more if this screw connection does not destroy these thin wires when the clamp is twisted


    It destroys.
  • #15 15851008
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    Posts: 17639
    Help: 1221
    Rate: 3448
    You still need to know how to do it. I doubt that the company would give the line without sleeves
  • Helpful post
    #16 15851023
    Ryszard49
    Level 39  
    Posts: 6182
    Help: 312
    Rate: 1001
    There are Wago connectors for connecting the lines (without sleeves)
  • #17 15851028
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • Helpful post
    #19 15851201
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #20 15851257
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Posts: 17356
    Help: 1073
    Rate: 4262
    Quote:
    @ micho.no1 We also have such cans on and under :)
    So if I perform, why are these joyful works of ingenious Dobromirs for?

    Thank you mate micho.nr1 for a hard stance stigmatizing solutions straight from a cottage manufacture, or perhaps from the Vistula open-air museum, which for many (as you can see) is the only role model to follow.

    I close the topic because a professional solution has been presented.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the best method to connect an induction plate to a power source, focusing on the use of screw couplers versus WAGO quick connectors. Participants debate the reliability of screw connections, noting that while they can handle higher loads, they may loosen over time due to micro-vibrations. Some suggest using WAGO connectors for their ease of use and reliability, while others recommend using sleeves on stranded wires to prevent damage from screw clamping. Tinning the wires before connection is discussed, with mixed opinions on its necessity. Overall, WAGO connectors are favored for their convenience and effectiveness in ensuring a secure connection.
Generated by the language model.
ADVERTISEMENT