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Can a cable with a crimped sleeve be used for a weight coupling?

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  • #1 18402856
    magnus27
    Level 13  
    Hello!
    Can I use a wire type cable with a crimped sleeve for a wago connector designed for wire only. The ones designed for wire are smaller in size and I'm installing ceiling led panels and the wago 221 connectors (designed for wire and cable) are too thick to fit between the panel and the ceiling. :( .
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  • #2 18402964
    Magic_moon

    Level 31  
    This must not be done. There are special Wago 221 fittings for the cables
  • #3 18403140
    bartekfigura
    Level 29  
    If you are fitting LED panels then check the wago connectors to the circuit boards.
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  • #4 18403502
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    Magic_moon , information from Wago.co.uk website
    Quote:
    Push-in CAGE CLAMP®: push-in assembly of single-wire, multi-wire and sleeve conductors, without tools
    .
  • #5 18403507
    magnus27
    Level 13  
    And which connector is involved?
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  • #6 18403518
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    magnus27 , spring connector.
  • #7 18403713
    arlix
    Level 16  
    Ryszard49 wrote:
    Magic_moon , information from Wago.co.uk website
    Quote:
    Push-in CAGE CLAMP®: push-in assembly of single-wire, multi-wire and sleeved cables, without tools
    .
    Catalogue one thing and life another.... If you have a badly tightened bushing the cable may come out.
  • #8 18403915
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    arlix , you need a professional crimper and nothing will "come out".
  • #9 18404013
    Magic_moon

    Level 31  
    Richard49. The quote you posted refers to the ZUG letters and not to the Wago connectors that are fitted to sockets and lighting.
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  • #11 18404233
    Shadowix
    Level 31  
    Well, that's where slat connectors come in, not quick installation connectors. In any case, using a sleeve in wire connectors is a very poor idea.

    magnus27 How much room do you have in there that 221-412 doesn't go in?
  • #12 18404780
    Magic_moon

    Level 31  
    Ryszard49 wrote:
    Magic_moon :

    Link
    .
    These are ZUG fittings and not installation fittings. And the author is probably referring to installation fittings.
  • #14 18405706
    Ryszard49
    Level 38  
    Xaveri what you wrote is obviously a joke?
  • #15 18406574
    pawlik118
    Level 33  
    The pinnacle of wirewiring is the fitting of tinned wire to a twisted connector. Unfortunately, this solution has been used by many manufacturers of, for example, luminaires.
  • #16 18408004
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    Then maybe just a Wago lighting connector would be a good solution? If not then I guess scraping a hole in the plaster is the answer.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the use of a wire-type cable with a crimped sleeve in Wago connectors, specifically the Wago 221 series, which are designed for wire connections. Participants emphasize that using a crimped sleeve in these connectors is inadvisable, as there are specific Wago fittings for cables. Concerns are raised about the potential for a poorly secured connection, with suggestions for using professional crimpers to ensure reliability. Alternatives such as Wago lighting connectors are proposed for fitting LED panels, with some participants questioning the space available for the connectors in the installation area.
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