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Switching from Cisco EPC3925 Router to ASUS RT-AC1200G+ with Adapter for Concentrator Connection

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  • #1 16000381
    friss84
    Level 9  
    Hello, such a problem: the internet is supplied via the concentrator to the Cisco epc3925 router - and since it has recently failed, the decision was made to change the device to ASUS RT-AC1200G +.
    The problem is that Asus does not have a cable entry.

    The question is, is it possible to get around this small oversight, e.g. by using an adapter? (e.g. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cablematic-RJ45-adapter-RJ45-M-BNC-H/dp/B007G5T10W). Is the only thing left to return the purchased device?
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  • #2 16000424
    goldi74
    Level 43  
    There is nothing to get around. There must be a router or a cable modem provided by cable at the entrance. It is not possible to connect your own device directly to a coaxial cable. The adapter from the link will not help at all.
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  • #3 16002040
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    Buddy goldi74, he doesn't have to. All you need is any other modem or cable router, as long as it has the appropriate parameters. Routers such as bunches, for example from the NetGear stable:
    https://www.netgear.com/home/products/network...cable-modems-routers/?cid=wmt_netgear_organic

    This device from the link from the first post is a BNC to Ethernet UTP coaxial adapter. Concentrations died with computers 386. What you have at home is a completely different technology, despite the external similarity. And when you look at it, even the similarity disappears, because the mentioned router accepts cables similar to those from satellite decoders.
  • #4 16002072
    vito007
    Level 25  
    sanfran wrote:
    All you need is any other modem or cable router, as long as it has the appropriate parameters.


    Which self-respecting cable cable will allow you to connect the modem provided by the subscriber to its network?
    Probably none. (At least in PL)
  • #5 16002086
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    Let us leave this matter for clarification by the author of the topic with his service provider.
  • #6 16002509
    jprzedworski
    Network and Internet specialist
    sanfran wrote:
    All you need is any other cable modem or router as long as he had the appropriate parameters entered
    The problem is that cable operators configure these devices remotely (after all, nobody runs from them to, for example, update the firmware) - they are in the central management system, they are clearly identified. If another device is inserted, there will be a problem.
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  • #7 16002738
    K_o_s

    Level 25  
    sanfran wrote:
    Let us leave this matter for clarification by the author of the topic with his service provider.


    In Poland, no cable operator allows you to install your own devices. In the US, maybe in GB, but not in our country. And not only do they update the firmware on the system to make life easier for users, but also to have full control over your own network. Recently, UPC has removed the bridge mode from the quite successful COMPAL, because yes ...

    The author of the thread is left with a phone call to the provider and a request for a device that allows you to work in bridge mode.

    Greetings
  • #8 16002909
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    K_o_s wrote:
    Recently, UPC has removed the bridge mode from the quite successful COMPAL, because yes ...

    Just call UPC and the bridge mode will be back.
    @ friss84
    As they write - the operator's cable modem must be there. If it is defective, the operator is obliged to replace it with a defect-free one.
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  • #9 16002931
    K_o_s

    Level 25  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:

    Just call UPC and the bridge mode will be back.


    OK, but I think the operator should not cut out essential functionalities that people count on and solicit without notice. This is not a normal situation for me.

    Greetings
  • #10 16002954
    m.jastrzebski
    Network and Internet specialist
    K_o_s wrote:
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:

    Just call UPC and the bridge mode will be back.


    OK, but I think the operator should not cut out essential functionalities that people count on and solicit without notice. This is not a normal situation for me.

    Greetings

    Relevant to 0.1% of customers.
  • #11 16003019
    K_o_s

    Level 25  
    m.jastrzebski wrote:

    Relevant to 0.1% of customers.


    Who also pay the bills and have the right to expect functionality and services not worse than those they ordered. Personally, I have 2 UPC installations, one is individual and the other is business. They differ significantly in the approach to the client, although the money is similar ... UPC has more and more monopolistic aspirations and practices related to them. With this approach, it can only be more fun than in the direct competition of UPC.

    Greetings
  • #12 16003032
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    K_o_s wrote:
    OK, but I think the operator should not cut out essential functionalities that people count on and solicit without notice. This is not a normal situation for me.

    Their equipment can do whatever they want and they are not obliged to inform anyone about it - such a provision is even in the regulations.
    You sign the contract, that is, you agree to these terms and conditions and you accept them.
    m.jastrzebski wrote:
    Relevant to 0.1% of customers.

    It is more about the company's policy - everyone should have modem routers and make it available to their WiFree - although WiFree works on the modem (that's just such miracles on the stick - a cable modem with working wifi), but people turn it off WiFree in the My UPC panel.
    The company wants to achieve this, as I wrote earlier - all modem routers with permanent WiFree and impossible to turn off in any way.
  • #13 16003051
    nici
    Moderator Chiptuning
    The serial numbers of the modem are entered into the system, so no other (even the same) will work without activation by the operator.

    I don't know about other suppliers, but my (MM) is replacing the equipment with a new one without any discussions or fees.

    I changed the modem once after 4 years (it worked, but it was of an older generation) and the sat decoder twice. No problems.

    I will just add that the decoder is also registered in the system
  • #14 16003092
    K_o_s

    Level 25  
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:

    Their equipment can do whatever they want and they are not obliged to inform anyone about it - such a provision is even in the regulations.
    You sign the contract, that is, you agree to these terms and conditions and you accept them.


    Since my colleague, such practices do not suit me ...

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    (...) but people disable WiFree in the My UPC panel.
    The company wants to achieve this, as I wrote earlier - all modem routers with permanent WiFree and impossible to turn off in any way.


    WiFree can no longer be turned off in the panel, you probably have to call. You can at most change your password. As for the permanence of WiFree ... it's a pity for words, only a bigger OT will be done. EOT

    Greetings
  • #15 16003496
    JacekCz
    Level 42  
    sanfran wrote:


    This device from the link from the first post is a BNC to Ethernet UTP coaxial adapter. Concentrations died with computers 386. What you have at home is a completely different technology, despite the external similarity. And when you look at it, even the similarity disappears, because the mentioned router accepts cables similar to those from satellite decoders.


    This is the correct interpretation.
  • #16 16003708
    jimasek
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    To the author of the topic - the device from the provider must remain in place so that you have access to the Internet. What mode it will work in is your business and the question of agreeing with the supplier. If the device (modem) does not work properly, it should be reported to the operator.

    Moderated By jimasek:

    Few substantive issues and more shouting over. I close the topic.
    3.1.11. Don't post messages that add nothing to the discussion. They are misleading, dangerous or do not solve the user's problem.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the transition from a Cisco EPC3925 router to an ASUS RT-AC1200G+ router, specifically addressing the issue of connecting the ASUS router to a coaxial cable from a concentrator. Users clarify that it is not feasible to connect a router directly to a coaxial cable without a compatible modem or cable router. The suggested adapter from the original post is deemed ineffective. Participants emphasize that cable operators typically require their provided devices for network access and may not allow personal devices due to remote configuration and management practices. The consensus is that the user should contact their service provider for a replacement modem or to discuss bridge mode options.
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