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Alternative Coaxial Router Options: Using Converters, Finding New Models & BYO Equipment

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  • #1 17151673
    Najterek
    Level 1  
    Hello, I recently set up internet with cable and I'm thinking about reducing costs because I took a router technicolor epc3928s for rent from a supplier for a fixed monthly fee. I asked the supplier if it is possible to connect your own equipment and cancel the rented said that there is no problem. Unfortunately, I only have access to the socket for the coaxial cable and after reviewing the offers of stores offering routers, it is hard for me to find some easily available router model with the input for the coaxial cable, the only thing I found were used models, but I would prefer new equipment from a reliable source. I was thinking of buying a converter with coaxial to rj45 and a router with rj45 input, I know that this application is quite popular in monitoring networks, but I would like to ask if it will work with the Internet? Alternatively, could someone recommend a router or other solution to me? best regards
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    #2 17151686
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    Hi. In most cables I know (UPC, Multimedia, Vectra) - no cable allows you to connect your own cable modem to their network. Of course you can opt out of the router, but simply your device will be replaced with a cable modem with an RJ45 socket, to which you connect your router, or even simpler your current modem-router will be switched to bridge mode, its WiFi will also be turned off - it just acted like a normal modem to which you will connect your own router.

    Allowing cable modems to register private client modems carries some risk, so most (if not all) networks do not allow this. Before you start combining with your device, check in your cable TV to see if this will not be the case.
  • #3 17153059
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    I am convinced at 99.99999999% that you cannot use your modems. As above, you will get a cable modem or the current router will switch to bridge mode. Then you will connect your router, which is a much better solution. What cable is it, do they want a fee for their router?
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  • #4 17154147
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    @Najterek
    In free sale, for retailers, we will not buy a NEW modem (and this is the only option in this case) of a modem router (and this is Technicolor) - it is a modem and router in one housing.
    Used equipment is dropped because once activated it is permanently assigned to a given operator and cannot be reactivated.
    After purchase, new equipment must be activated at the operator's.
    From what I know, no cable TV in Poland that uses cable modems gives the customer the opportunity to use their own equipment and opt out of the operator.
    You can't opt out of the modem router - maybe you can switch it to modem mode and then connect your router to it (but Technicolor must be left).
  • #5 17154194
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    Used equipment is dropped because once activated it is permanently assigned to a given operator and cannot be reactivated.

    As much as possible, the "belonging" to the operator is not saved on the modem.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    You can't opt out of the modem router - maybe you can switch it to modem mode and then connect your router to it (but Technicolor must be left).

    Of course you can. The operator can replace this modem with any other, and currently used by the Author connect with someone else.
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  • #6 17154231
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    dt1 wrote:
    As much as possible, the "belonging" to the operator is not saved on the modem.

    But the modem router's data is saved in the operator's base (modem MAC, its serial number) - so it is not possible to activate this modem elsewhere, because the operator buying his equipment enters his data into his database.
    If the modem MAC and serial number is not in its base, it does not activate such equipment.
    If it were otherwise, no operator in Poland would do a problem with it and you could buy a drug from any operator and connect to another.
    Even in the USA where you can have your own modem, only new modems are at stake.
    dt1 wrote:
    Of course you can. The operator can replace this modem with any other, and currently used by the Author connect with someone else.

    I do not see the connection of this statement with my quote.
  • #7 17154243
    dt1
    Admin of Computers group
    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    But the modem router's data is stored in the operator's base (modem MAC, its serial number) - so it is not possible to activate this modem elsewhere.


    They can be saved in the base of one cable TV. Second cable base has no access to the first cable base. The fact that the modem is stored in someone's database has no effect on the operation of this modem with another operator.

    KOCUREK1970 wrote:
    If it were otherwise, no operator in Poland would do a problem with it and you could buy a drug from any operator and connect to another.

    It is not for this reason that operators do "problems".
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  • #8 17154287
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    dt1 wrote:
    The fact that the modem is stored in someone's database has no effect on the operation of this modem with another operator.

    But it is not about its operation but the activation of the equipment that does not come from the operator.
    dt1 wrote:
    It is not for this reason that operators do "problems".

    The reason is the security of the network with another operator.
    You can understand the unwillingness to connect user modems, consent to install a user modem is not only a problem related to the need to ensure that it works properly in a specific cable environment, and thus the selection of appropriate software and HFC network parameters (besides, some modems are no longer supported by manufacturers) but also aspects related to security and thus breaking modem security because there are vulnerabilities to different models.

    Whatever the reason - there is no such possibility in Poland to use your own new, let alone used equipment.
    It is true that there is a European directive that indicates the need to move away from such restrictions, but in Europe only ZIGGO decided to introduce it and only with NEW equipment from the list certified by them.
  • #9 17154406
    makosuu
    Network and Internet specialist
    But why own equipment with a DOCSIS modem? Why think about it? After all, the same result will result in switching the modem router to bridge mode and connecting your own router. And even better because it gives you freedom in what we connect.
  • #10 17154452
    KOCUREK1970
    Network and Internet specialist
    makosuu wrote:
    But why own equipment with a DOCSIS modem? Why think about it?

    The author wanted to reduce monthly costs - and you can see that there was some misunderstanding on the operator-customer line.
    makosuu wrote:
    After all, the same result will result in switching the modem router to bridge mode and connecting your own router.

    It also depends only on the will of the operator.
    makosuu wrote:
    And even better because it gives you freedom in what we connect.

    If such an option is available - then you are right here.
  • #11 17155799
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the challenges of using personal routers with cable internet services, specifically regarding the Technicolor EPC3928S modem-router rented from a supplier. Users express skepticism about the feasibility of connecting personal equipment due to restrictions imposed by cable operators, who typically require the use of their own modems for network security and compatibility reasons. Suggestions include switching the current modem-router to bridge mode, allowing the connection of a personal router, which is seen as a more flexible solution. However, concerns about the costs of new modems and the limitations of used equipment are also highlighted, with a consensus that many operators in Poland do not permit the use of customer-owned modems.
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