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Lighting in a garage without electricity - Not considering the 12V gel battery

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  • #1 16171847
    HunterMH
    Level 9  
    Hello,
    Dear forum users. I have a garage with no access to the electricity network. The installation is there, but due to the turbulences in the past, the plot on which the garages are (including mine) is disconnected from the network and the cost of connection and related works is currently about 5000 PLN, which the neighbors do not want to make.
    That is why I am asking for advice what I can use as emergency lighting, which would only be used to illuminate the interior during entry and exit from the garage (lighting time is 60-120 seconds at a time). Everywhere in the network I found guides based on the installation of LED strips powered by a 12V gel battery, but something like this falls off due to the size of the battery, which I would have to lug a good bit at home to charge.

    I was thinking about something like this:
    1. http://ledco.pl/3103-large_default/naswietlacz-led-30w-z-akumulatora.jpg
    Is it possible to install a motion sensor in this (supply voltage from batteries is 3.7V and all motion sensors I find in the network support 230V halogen lights or 12V LED strips)?

    2. http://www.mydeal.pl/admin/dealsImg/22834/14/22834_-1.jpg
    Does the use of several LED lamps of this type (e.g. 2 on the left and 2 on the right) give the effect of lighting? I know that this will not be very clear, but the point is not to pull out purchases and close the garage blindly with the current weather.)

    3. As a last resort, if there is no way out, then I was thinking about this option:
    Source of light:
    http://spplthumb.blob.core.windows.net/350x25...led-10w-halogen-ip66-lampa-slim-390530752.jpg (12V)
    or
    http://www.ecosystemprojekt.pl/files/halogen-naswietlacz-led-12w-12vdc.jpg
    sensor:
    https://ekotaniej.pl/media/catalog/product/ca...acde0bbad55f479613d68b38ca/t/l/tla17_2_01.jpg
    Power supply:
    http://www.platronik.pl/724-thickbox_default/Akumulator-zelowy-12V-12Ah-ULTRACELL.jpg

    Thank you in advance for your help!
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  • #2 16171870
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    Does the car have "Follow me Home" options (lights up for a minute - two when the ignition is off)?
    If so, then sufficiently directed mirrors directing the light streams from the headlights to the ceiling and the light diffuser are sufficient.
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  • #3 16171929
    HunterMH
    Level 9  
    sanfran wrote:
    Does the car have "Follow me Home" options (lights up for a minute - two when the ignition is off)?
    If so, then sufficiently directed mirrors directing the light streams from the headlights to the ceiling and the light diffuser are sufficient.


    Not the one that's kept in this garage :) That is why the issue of external lighting remains.
  • #4 16171943
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist
    You can always install something like this in your car. The cost may be less than lamps and energy sources. To consider what will pay off more.
  • #5 16172464
    HunterMH
    Level 9  
    It falls off, after some time I will change the car and have fun again.
  • #6 16210165
    HunterMH
    Level 9  
    Anyone can help?
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  • #7 16210185
    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    Isn't a solar panel a good solution as a battery charging system?
  • #8 16211781
    HunterMH
    Level 9  
    Krzysztof Kamienski wrote:
    Isn't a solar panel a good solution as a battery charging system?


    Will current inventions succeed?
    I watched several films on this subject + I read articles and from what I learned 90% of "solar panels" do not fulfill their function.

    I was thinking about such products:
    https://0.allegroimg.com/original/0138b2/ec593c6140cea3255a0ab64b2190
    http://spplthumb.blob.core.windows.net/350x25...-tryby-pracy-oswietlenie-krakow-310801897.jpg

    Worth the attention
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  • #9 16211796
    Klosu92
    Level 15  
    Maybe easier.
    There are LED lights on the Allegro with a battery motion sensor. Lights don't give much, but they should be enough to go in the garage without an accident. Alternatively, two give it. I will send the link to the author.
  • #10 16211822
    Xantix
    Level 41  
    HunterMH wrote:
    Will current inventions succeed?

    For most of the year, the PV panels will do the trick - however, between November and March, in bad weather, there may be problems charging the battery.
    HunterMH wrote:
    Everywhere in the network I found guides based on the installation of LED strips powered by a 12V gel battery, but something like this falls off due to the size of the battery, which I would have to lug a good bit at home to charge.

    Without exaggeration with these dimensions - a 12 V 7 Ah gel battery has the dimensions of a sugar packet and weighs less than 2.5 kg - and two meters of 5050 LED strip (28.8 W power) such a battery would power continuously for 2 hours. So, taking into account that the lighting time of your system is a maximum of 2 minutes at a time - in the worst case you have 60 light cycles from such a battery - assuming 2 cycles a day, you have 30 days of work on one battery.
    Of course, it's better to recharge slightly more often - better for battery life - but in my opinion 2.5 kg is probably not much even if you would have to walk with this weight and 100 meters.
    In my opinion, the above solution would be the simplest and relatively cheap and at the same time quite effective.
  • #11 16211854
    kortyleski
    Level 43  
    Several 18650 links can even be put into a pocket. Two such packages interchangeably and you have light all the time. And the panel, by the way, charges so much less wear.
  • #12 16211879
    gimak
    Level 41  
    HunterMH wrote:
    I have a garage with no access to the electricity network.

    So like me in Nowy Sącz. I solved the problem of lighting and periodic battery charging by using a small power generator and an old (now 10 years old) car battery. The unit periodically recharges the lighting battery and the car battery (I drive very little at the moment). For lighting I use 3W / 12V led bulbs.
    Initially, to charge the batteries, instead of the aggregate, I was going to use a 20-30W / 12V solar battery in connection with the battery voltage control system. It would definitely pass the exam and it suited me better than the aggregate - less troublesome. I gave it up, because nearby menele gather for socializing, and the solar battery would probably be destroyed or turned into breweries very quickly.
  • #13 16211899
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    In Lidl there were floodlights with a battery and a solar cell.
  • #14 16212558
    CYRUS2
    Level 43  
    Aku gel 12V 7-17Ah recharged from solar panels.
    There is some light for 24 hours.
    The panels are to top up the defects and keep the battery in a standby state.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around finding a solution for lighting a garage without access to the electricity network. The user seeks emergency lighting options that can illuminate the garage for 60-120 seconds at a time. Suggestions include using motion sensor LED lights, solar-powered lights, and rechargeable batteries. Some participants recommend solar panels for charging batteries, while others express skepticism about their effectiveness. Alternatives like using a car battery with LED bulbs or portable battery packs are also discussed. The feasibility of using a small power generator for periodic battery charging is mentioned, along with the potential for theft or vandalism of solar equipment.
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