Elektroda.com
Elektroda.com
X

Search our partners

Find the latest content on electronic components. Datasheets.com
Elektroda.com

Conversion Climatic on Climatronic (Skoda Fabia 2)

TomHagen 13752 15
This content has been translated » The original version can be found here
  • #1
    TomHagen
    Level 11  
    Good morning

    I became interested in the topic of changing the manual air conditioning in Skoda Fabia 2. I completed the necessary parts - control panel, heater and solar sensor. It remains to make bundles and assembly. Unfortunately, it turns out that it is not so easy to find a service / professional who will undertake this task. Will anyone from Electrode undertake this task from Lesser Poland, Silesia or the surrounding area? Possibly, can someone recommend a service / professional who will undertake such a task?
  • #2
    cezars65
    Level 24  
    It is a pity to be able to ... ... such a sculpture is to ask for trouble with climate, it will never function well. It will be difficult for you to find someone, unless you are passionate about it or not having something to do. I am afraid that what you have bought is not everything.
  • #3
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    TomHagen wrote:
    it turns out that it is not so easy to find a service / professional who will undertake this task


    It's a matter of Rbh. I could embrace it.

    Bundles also need to be bought, unrealistic making, at a level that would last a long time.
  • #4
    Aleksander_01
    Level 41  
    Beams may be, you have to check (very often the installation is over grown in the car). Secondly, you have to buy all the middle bajer (you have now a winding direction in the direction of the fan and in the motor-driven automatics). If you had such a system, the assembly itself is a day of work plus coding. The most important thing, however, is the installation, the rest is a muddle. I have already processed a few devices and if only there is an installation, the robot goes like from notes. Recently, gostek bought 2 armchairs n in the skin for asthma, of course they had heat. The installation was therefore left to buy two potentiometers and the seats fluttered until it was nice. Without installation, I would never take it for it.
  • #5
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    Aleksander_01 wrote:
    If you had such a system, the assembly itself is a day of work plus coding


    Rather 2 days zapier ......, it's fabia, and you never know what will run out in the wash.
  • #6
    vag_padło
    Level 15  
    it is to embrace. Then you have to change the entry from fabia to Wunderbaum in the registration certificate. Skoda Wunderbaum


    Moderated By T5:


    3.1.11. Do not send messages that do not contribute to the discussion. They are misleading, they are dangerous or they do not solve the user's problem.

  • #7
    TomHagen
    Level 11  
    Thank you for helping everyone, it's a pity that most of the statements were "I do not know each other, but I will say it".

    cezars65 - not counting the bundles I have everything I need (and even too much, because the heater is the same, it differs only the equipment (servos in the place of cables, sensors, etc.)

    The stream of consciousness ... - it is really unrealistic to make bundles for cubes bought at the ATS based on schemes, after all the factory "wire" is a special alloy from the moon that can not be replaced. However, you are right about the amount of RBH - two days of one person, the question of the rate for RBH remains.

    Aleksander_01 - no more bundles, but Skoda. I understand that by this "bajer" you mean heater with accessories? If the installation is already something, then there is no retrofitting and a simple hook that everyone can do - a completely different amount and rate of RBH.

    vag_padło - my friend probably the forum confused ...
  • #8
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    TomHagen wrote:
    it is really unrealistic to make bundles for cubes bought at the ATS based on schemes, after all the factory "wire" is a special alloy from the moon that can not be replaced. However, you are right about the amount of RBH - two days of one person, the question of the rate for RBH remains.


    It's wiring bundles, I do not work like that because it's doing a chore job and endless patches.

    Wunder baum is just a beautiful tree, and smells.
  • #9
    Aleksander_01
    Level 41  
    To the author of the topic - I see that you have theoretical knowledge, so what a problem to do it yourself. After all, the bundles can also be bought, and the rest will be done by everyone, and for little money.
  • #10
    TomHagen
    Level 11  
    I do not have a garage or access to the garage, and now I see my wife 2 hours a day. When I start to bury it with my free time, my car is taken apart for two weeks and my wife and I will see each other in a dream. I estimated the assembly and making bundles for 12-14 hours, counting PLN 50 net per hour, costs PLN 600-700, even count 800 PLN (+ possible VAT). I definitely prefer to pay that amount.
  • #11
    Alfred_92
    Level 33  
    TomHagen wrote:
    I do not have a garage or access to the garage, and now I see my wife 2 hours a day. When I start to bury it with my free time, my car is taken apart for two weeks and my wife and I will see each other in a dream. I estimated the assembly and making bundles for 12-14 hours, counting PLN 50 net per hour, costs PLN 600-700, even count 800 PLN (+ possible VAT). I definitely prefer to pay that amount.

    Accountant or Process Engineer?
    How do you propose to the mechanics of the rate, maybe the auction will announce ...
    And seriously people avoid such work because a pile of nerves and earnings are not ...
    That's the number you can take, I'll bring someone a car on Monday and say you're coming back for it on Friday / Saturday.
  • #12
    User removed account
    User removed account  
  • #13
    Aleksander_01
    Level 41  
    I wrote about one day earlier, of course with the existing full installation in the car and delivery of all the necessary parts. I forgot to add that we work in two at the plant. And only with such "favorable" conditions and continuous work can you get one day.

    The most expensive version is - first search in the diagrams catalog numbers of plugs and pins. Go with this data to VW service and order. Return to the workshop. On the second day, drive to collect. it's already a lekucheńko counting two or three hours. Next - buying the right amount of the right wire, to facilitate the same color, that is again the shop and time, let's count the hour. Now folding, threading, twisting (can), braids, peszel, etc.

    In summary - along with the parts, we quietly double the value of this car.

    Or yes - I once did such a skoda (fabia 2) with a burnt beam, i.e. the entire electrician to replace (except the engine compartment, door). You can believe me or not, but I did not want to do it, but he asked me for a favor. The entire cost of this change is PLN 2,700 (I used the bundle I bought for PLN 180 (even richer in equipment), and one more, as Alfred_92 wrote, you set aside on Monday and you receive on Friday.
  • #14
    TomHagen
    Level 11  
    @ Alfred_92 Engineer

    @ Aleksander_01 I do not know how much you value your colleague's work, but Fabia 2 year 2014 with a good engine is 25-30k - if you want to double this value in two working days, I congratulate the RBH rate.


    To the malcontents who wrote that the business was unprofitable, that it would double the value of the car, that it was too difficult, that it was not profitable - even though they had no idea how much work would be needed and how many parts are needed ...

    I leave an entry for descendants who are interested in the factual and real solution to the problem with the part numbers.
    Prices of drugs from Allegro, given with shipping costs, gross prices - as I paid.

    As I wrote in the first post - all parts were provided by me, the mechanic had to remove the board, replace the heaters and make a bundle of ready-made plugs with the pins - only extension of the wires (according to the scheme I gave him).

    The heater is needed from the continental version, the rest of the parts (photoelectric sensor, control panel, plugs, temperature sensors) can be boldly taken from English.

    Climatronic heater with servos, sensors and panel beam (5J1820003) - 189 PLN
    I missed one G191 sensor (4B0820539) - PLN 10

    Control panel (5J0907044C) - PLN 100

    Optical sensor (5J0907539) - PLN 45

    Plug of a photo optical sensor (8E0971832) - PLN 15

    Blower driver plug (6X0972623) - PLN 15

    Plug C T16d control panel (4A0972883C / 443972805/443972807) - PLN 25
    (There are two available on the market - with climatronica fabia / polo / ibiza with 13 PINs planted from the audi comfort module with 4 PINs planted, the use of the climatronica version makes it much easier)

    To do the beam:
    T16d (16-pin connector of the Climatronic controller - 13 contacts fitted)

    PHOTO PAPER SENSOR (T4ac 4-pin connector)
    2 - 0.35 (brown / white)
    3 - 0.35 (green / white)

    COMPRESSOR REGULATION VALVE
    4 - 0.75 (black / green)

    BCM COMFORT MODULE, CAN BUS (SPLECIONE)
    5 - 0.35 (orange / green)
    6 - 0.35 (orange / brown)

    [83]
    7 - 0.5 (red / white)

    DRIVER FAN CONTROLLER
    8 - 0.5 (brown / lilac)
    9 - 0.5 (brown / gray)

    [11]
    12 - 0.5 (red / yellow)

    COMBINATION WITH MASS IN THE MAIN BOTTOM
    13 - 0.5 (brown / red)

    BLOWER CONTROLLER (T6aa 6-pin connector)
    14 - 0.35 (black)
    15 - 0.35 (green)
    16 - 0.35 (blue)

    ETKA layout.
    Conversion Climatic on Climatronic (Skoda Fabia 2)

    Electrical scheme.
    S006020000...tronic.pdf Download (6.33 MB)Points: 1 for user

    SUMMARY
    Parts: PLN 399
    Labor (two days of one person): PLN 1000

    Total: 1399 PLN gross (~ 1137 PLN net)

    It's cheaper than the climatronica surcharge when you buy a car in the salon.

    From the final price, you can basically subtract the price of the airflow control panel with manual air conditioning (~ 50 PLN) and the price of the removed heater (~ 100-200 PLN) that you can sell.
  • #15
    Aleksander_01
    Level 41  
    TomHagen wrote:
    @ Alfred_92 Engineer

    @ Aleksander_01 I do not know how much you value your colleague's work, but Fabia 2 year 2014 with a good engine is 25-30k - if you want to double this value in two working days, I congratulate the RBH rate.
    take from English.
    .



    Show me where I wrote that it was 2014, it was 2004 or older.
  • #16
    TomHagen
    Level 11  
    The problem concerns Fabia 2 FL, and so production 2011-2014, one should assume that you are speaking in this thread on the subject. The twisting translation that your posts were about a car older than 2004 (and therefore a different model at all, because Fabia 2 was produced in 2007-2014) are all the more out of place.

    The problem has been resolved and extensive instruction posted, the thread is closing.