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  • #1 16199863
    pakitoss
    Level 8  
    Hi!
    I have such a modest question.
    Will I set "LTE only" in the network settings after switching on, will there be additional costs? I have internet from digital polsat and currently use the HSPA + / UMTS option. Package for PLN 49.90.
    I don't know the rest, the only question that bothers me is: /
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  • #2 16200097
    Anonymous
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  • #3 16200114
    matek451
    Level 43  
    If it's a package for 49.90 in CP, you have 3G 40GB if taken in the salon or 50GB if over the Internet. On 3g there is a limit in Plus / CP and then 32Kb / s. Using it is unprofitable. Plus / CP is the only operator that uses the differences in limits on 3G and LTe where theoretically there is no limit and in practice FUP allows even 150-20GB with full available speed. The operation of LTE in Plus / CP is a separate topic. In many locations it is the bottom and a meter of silt, it is the worst mobile operator and is not used in them. Even more so, it does not take a subscription. The operator, which has had the best radio resources for many years, did not modernize LTE and 3G networks, but only sold offers. Now it advertises LTE-A, which it practically does not have. If anyone has the opportunity, let him give up, a 3g escape, which sometimes works better for them, is a half-measure.
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  • #5 16200194
    matek451
    Level 43  
    If you had fast LTE internet in Plus, you would not use 3G on UMTS2100 in HSPA + DC. 20Mb / s in DC is a good result because everyone is using LTE. If it's UMTS2100, it's probably in the city and the LTE Plus coverage is on LTE1800Aero2. Speeds lower than 3g, less than 20Mb / s are a perfect testimony to how LTE works in Plus. Aero2 has a 20MHz bandwidth in MIMO, DL theoretically reaches up to 150Mb / s in practice with 5-10% of these possibilities, of course this is optimistic because they are a place where DL in the peak on this wonderful LTE Plus reaches 1-2Mb / s in the peak. As a curiosity, I even have a subscription in Plus, I pay PLN 30 in SmartDom for a tariff of 100 GB for 3G and no limit for LTE. under the contract LTE-A E5186 router for PLN 3, is worth PLN 600. I signed the subscription only to have this router in installments. I will pay 720 PLN for two years, i.e. I have internet from Plus for free. I use the router for Play because I have unlimited there LTE internet for PLN 5 / month without contract. I use LTE-A band aggregation on it because Play offers it to me as befits the technological leader of LTE. I have several such cards in Play, Plus is my last, backup internet. In addition, I use LTE in Orange with LTE1800Networks. Best Play coverage, p otem Orange and Plus works on LTE1800Aero2 only thanks to the Dual LTE antenna at 1800MHz from Cybertech. In Plus, it is not profitable to take 30GB and sign a contract. Finally, speed tests on LTE1800Play (it has half the Plus band, i.e. only 10MHz in MIMO and theoretical DL up to 75Mb / s) http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5967742928 and Plus on LTE1800Aero (20MHz in MIMO DL in theory up to 150Mb / s) http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5967746994 Speeds mainly depend on the BTS load. This "mine" has a lot of users and it's no wonder it's one for a large area. As for you Plus so fast, show the result on LTE because on 3G with UMTS2100 on BTS the wind is blowing, there are no users. And this is the effect of the fact that Plus on 3G has low limits and the 32Kb / s funnel on LTE is theoretically no limit, in practice 150-200GB / month without a funnel.
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  • #7 16200451
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Buddy Play does not have LTE coverage in many parts of the country and I do not hide it. I always recommend testing operators in a given location and selecting an operator on that basis. It is also no secret that Plus has the largest radio resources and has permits for LTE1800 and LTE800 much earlier and for dog's money. At that time, he could build a decent LTE1800 and LTE800 network with normal forwarding. But he has not been doing this for 2 years. LTE1800 realized 50% of the permits and the capacity stage started 2 months ago. In addition, half of the permits for LTE800Sferia have not been realized and will never be. The permits expire at the end of 2018 and Solorz has announced that it will not extend them, it is to build LTE900, which is not very popular. For today, he wants to save himself by expanding the LTE1800, but he is not doing well. In addition, this is not a coverage band and customers using LTE800Sferia may wake up in a dark hole. Plus is the only one with a tragic backbone network based on slow radio lines. There are stations with full permissions and 2x183Mb / s transmission even slower. For this curiosity stations, e.g. GSM900 + LTE1800. Covering the LTE Plus with coverage is illusory, it's a big fake. the network is built without any guiding principle or order. Now they are adding UMTS900Aero2 because LTE800 is not being made. For comparison, Play, although within a limited range, builds the network thoughtfully, logically and planned. On all UMTS2100 stations with HSPA + DC and UMTS900 with HSPA +. After obtaining the LTE1800 license, and as it happened on the free 5Mhz of the 2100MHz band, he launched LTE2100 as the only operator. Now it is the fastest building of LTE800 and in cities it is the leader of LTE2600. It is the first to aggregate LTE and 4 bands. transmission to BTSs via fiber optics and the radio link is at least 2x1Gb / s. As an operator, it has its own strategy and it does not offer coverage everywhere, but is usually present in cities. All this information about 99% of Plus's population coverage is marketing. In rural areas, LTE800Sferia is an empty shell. Other operators, i.e. Orange, T-Mobile in LTE also have a well-thought-out strategy, They have a good NetWorks network with UMTE2100, UMTE900 and LTE1800. Now they are building their own LTE800 outside of cities. In addition, LTE2600 and LTE-A in large cities are slower. A backbone network based on optical fibers (known as Orange) and fast radio links. LTE800 works fine, each has 10MHz bandwidth in MIMO. This is reality and customers are informed when choosing an operator. You did not deign to boast about Plus's speeds, i.e. you did not support this LTE Plus action. Well, do not compare the no limit in LTE Play with a card for PLN 5 / month with a 30GB subscription for PLN 30 in Plus, where you have to pay extra PLN 10 for no limit. It's a total of PLN 40, so 8 times more. I regret that you have a weak LTE team in Play, of course by because of the weak signal external antennas are used. And a colleague in Dobroszyce has LTE Play coverage (two BTSs on LTE1800), LTE2100 and a permit for LTE2600 and overloaded LTE from Plus. It is possible that LTE1800Aero2 works with him now. But all this should be checked with tests. After all, it has the E3372s-153 from Plus.
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  • #10 16204004
    matek451
    Level 43  
    You are lucky, in your area you have probably used the LTE800Sferia BTS or the loaded LTE1800Aero2 BTS before. It is possible that Plus has launched some new LTE1800Aero2 and you log in to it. So far it is unencumbered. But the tests are important during the hours of maximum Internet traffic, i.e. in the evening. Plus, after 10 months of inactivity and wondering what to do next, from November, he started to launch permits for LTE1800Aero2, which had been lying idle for years. It is possible that this is LTE2600 Plus because such few permits are also fired, mainly for PR purposes to boast about LTE-A 2600 + LTE1800. but most people are less fortunate and the LTE Plus will barely crack, in the countryside even LTE1800 will not help, it is not a range and the operator will not put BTS every 5 km. There only LTE800Sferii, which at 5MHz in MIMO is a joke with LTE. I wonder what they will come up with in Plus in 2017 so as not to lose the distance to other operators? The potential, that is the bands, have the most, but in terms of investment, they stand out from the competition.
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  • #12 16204105
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Then pray that the neighbors do not get confused and start using LTE internet in Plus / CP. The speed increase is the result of adding the LTE1800Aero2 to the probably earlier LTE800Sferia on the BTS. Sferia has 5MHz bandwidth in MIMO, i.e. DL theoretically up to 37.5Mb / s. Aero2 on LTE1800 4 times as much bandwidth and DL up to 150Mb / s. But the bandwidth is not made of rubber and the increase in users and the large network traffic they generate end up clogging the BTS. Then the LTE1800 will not be able to do it either. Solorz's ideas were aimed at minimizing costs. One network on LTE800 because it was about it would reduce competition. It was supposed to be a smart move on his part, because he himself has the most bandwidth on LTE1800, which he got almost for free. Luckily it didn't get over. Solorz cares not about the interests of its users, but about its own. The only partner for him could be P4 (Play). Orange and T-mobile have been cooperating with NetWorks for 5 years. First, a common UMTS900 network, infrastructure on UMTS2100 - own bands. Then shared LTE1800 and now, similarly to UMTS2100, LTE800 network at each of them on common masts.
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  • #14 16204224
    matek451
    Level 43  
    It is not that simple, it was the competition of 4 operators that forced them to take certain actions for the benefit of the customer. Common network yes, but on the same terms and from the start. But it hasn't been like that for a long time. CP had 20MHz band at the earliest in LTE1800 for almost nothing, as the first band on LTE800 for pennies. He has been providing LTE for a long time. It was other operators that had to separate from their resources under DCS1800 LTE1800 band, Play own 10MHz, and Orange and T-mobile jointly 15MHz to start providing LTE services. for two years Solorz dictated the terms and did not mention the common network. It was only on the occasion of the auction that LTE800 began to be a good uncle and praised the common LTE800, he just wanted to save. As he saw that the prices were going up, he withdrew from the auction and played with the company - the NetNet support - and raised prices. NetNet obtained a 5MHz bandwidth that it did not receive and which finally went to T-mobile. But it fell into its own trap, Sferia has licenses for LTE800 for 2 more years, then Solorz has to pay 2 billion zlotys for its extension. A year ago, he announced that he would not extend it, so in two years those who use and are within the range of Sferia's LTE800 can stay without it. Hence, we are now working on UMTS900 and LTE1800. But the LTE1800 is not able to cover many areas. Another idea is to separate resources from the GSM 900 band for LTE900. But this is a rarely used frequency and its fate is uncertain. Overall, Solorz, who plays the role of a Polish operator, fights against foreign capital, and companies in Cyprus, is a seasoned business player and not a savior of LTE internet users. Polkomtel is famous for its investment savings, everything done by the smallest amount of money and maximizing profits. Therefore, the telecommunications market is not so simple and only competition serves the users. Even Networks, i.e. the company Orange and T-Mobile, is a common infrastructure, the bands mostly own and the operators compete with each other in terms of their offers.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around whether enabling "LTE only" in network settings incurs additional costs for users with a PLN 49.90 internet package from Cyfrowy Polsat (CP). Users clarify that there are no extra charges for using LTE, as it is included in their existing plans. However, opinions vary on the performance of LTE compared to HSPA+ and UMTS, with some users reporting better speeds on 3G. Concerns are raised about the quality of LTE service in certain areas, with some users experiencing poor coverage and slow speeds. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape among operators, particularly Plus and Play, and the importance of testing network performance in specific locations.
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