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Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)

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  • #1 16212371
    wojciechpawlik83
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    I have a request for help in the correct analysis of the throttle control principle. Namely, in the attached diagram, I marked the throttle. Please, maybe someone will try to explain how the throttle opening reading is performed? is this reading duplicated?
    I am asking for answers in the subject.

    Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Something missed me.
    The throttle is N075
    The gas pedal is K055
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  • #2 16212415
    goldi74
    Level 43  
    Reading with a doubled potentiometer similar to the gas pedal.
  • #3 16212740
    wojciechpawlik83
    Level 10  
    Ok. Is anyone able to specify what the throttle range should be? From how many to how many Ohm? I wonder why these throttles are so expensive and emergency? Or maybe it would be enough to redesign this solution? The case concerns throttles in Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V
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  • #4 16213352
    Jacek79
    Level 37  
    You have to replace the potentiometer in it and it will be ok. Constant problem.
  • #5 16214478
    wojciechpawlik83
    Level 10  
    Buddy, it's not that simple. These dampers are integrated with a potentiometer that is there in the form of a tape - rather not a replaceable element.
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  • #6 17472980
    jazeck
    Level 12  
    Well, if someone has such a new potentiometer I will gladly buy back, even two!
  • #7 17590572
    Jacek79
    Level 37  
    buy whole throttles
  • #8 17594993
    jazeck
    Level 12  
    Well, I had to do that, because so far I would have been left without a car. PLN 1200 The stimulant does not make sense, because you have to spend PLN 300 and it comes or not. My drug has worked for about 6 months.
    It so happened that within a month the incident coils came out, a box, a battery, two probes and a few other things literally spat out. A total of PLN 4,000. Nice pesch, but done and so far it is driving like never before ... even the check does not light the LPG.
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  • #9 17597032
    E8600
    Level 41  
    wojciechpawlik83 wrote:
    Or maybe it would be enough to redesign this solution? The case concerns throttles in Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V

    If anyone posted a photo of what the electronics of the disassembled throttle looks like, probably someone would suggest how to convert it at a cheap cost. Perhaps you can add an external potentiometer.

    There are also such modifications from a potentiometer to a magnetic sensor.




    I found such a photo on the network and it would rather be possible to get an external potentiometer there, properly securing it.
    Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)
    Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)
    Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)
    Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)
  • #10 17597575
    KarizmoGSM

    Level 28  
    The breakdown of these throttles is not the fault of the potentiometer, to a large extent.
  • #11 17597592
    E8600
    Level 41  
    KarizmoGSM wrote:
    The breakdown of these throttles is not the fault of the potentiometer, to a large extent.

    Then what is the main culprit?
  • #12 17597724
    jazeck
    Level 12  
    In the third photo, under the badge, there is the crux of the matter ... scratching post and elastic resistance ribbon around, I didn't tear it by force so I don't know how it is connected to the pins - probably pressed in somehow.
    These potentiometers have inverted shoes that scratch the shell instead of sliding over the resistance mass. Do we know how a properly installed skid looks like or look in google? Otherwise, instead of sliding the bent finger, we slide the same finger, but a fingernail.
    Perhaps it is about the high accuracy of the measurements, or the bulb conspiracy. The new throttle also bought is the same made.
    There is an ice scraper instead of a slide.
    I doubt anyone else would find the same resistance tape with the same values.
    It turns out that the Fiat will break down after 200-300kkm = it's better to buy new thinking for those poor people from the west.
    Mine has 250kkm - recently 4,000 to keep it running. A whole series flew week after week. A German would cry with happiness that he got rid of, and we fix ...

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    KarizmoGSM wrote:
    The breakdown of these throttles is not the fault of the potentiometer, to a large extent.

    So what usually breaks down in them?
  • #13 17597932
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Here I found resistances on the pins as if someone wanted to check. Link
  • #14 17598667
    Strumien swiadomosci swia
    Level 43  
    jazeck wrote:
    Mine has 250kkm - recently 4,000 to keep it running. A whole series flew week after week. A German would cry with happiness that he got rid of, and we fix ...

    Why, the fact that you did not lift your finger for 250kkm, there is nothing to brag about being a slut. Something has to break sometime.

    Secondly, if you want to drive, you buy NEW parts, not scrap !!!!

    In these dampers, the commutator is also stuck and the controller is damaged, the same problem in the multiples.
  • #15 17600654
    jazeck
    Level 12  
    Strumien swiadomosci swia wrote:
    jazeck wrote:
    Mine has 250kkm - recently 4,000 to keep it running. A whole series flew week after week. A German would cry with happiness that he got rid of, and we fix ...

    Why, the fact that you did not lift your finger for 250kkm, there is nothing to brag about being a slut. Something has to break sometime.

    Secondly, if you want to drive, you buy NEW parts, not scrap !!!!

    In these dampers, the commutator is also stuck and the controller is damaged, the same problem in the multiples.

    Of course it's an electrode .. . He reads what I wrote? Got it? You are, of course, buying everything new - original onion fakes. Greetings from the "slut".
    By the way, since he rides, I'm not looking for it by force, but believe me, if something doesn't work, your "slut" fixes it.
  • #16 20195147
    slawekk1224
    Level 1  
    @ wojciechpawlik83 where to get the description of the markings of your drawing, numbers, colors, numbers

    Added after 12 [minutes]:

    Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V - Understanding Throttle Control, Opening Reading & Duplication (N075, K055)
    Hello, I need descriptions for the photo

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the throttle control system of the Fiat Stilo 1.6 16V, specifically focusing on the throttle (N075) and gas pedal (K055). Participants seek clarification on how the throttle opening reading is performed and whether this reading is duplicated. It is noted that the throttle uses a dual potentiometer system similar to the gas pedal. Users express concerns about the high cost and reliability of throttle components, suggesting that potentiometers are often integrated and not easily replaceable. Some participants discuss potential modifications, including the use of external potentiometers or magnetic sensors. The conversation also touches on the common issues faced with these throttles, including wear and failure after significant mileage, leading to costly repairs.
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