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Selection of a drive for a tin garage

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  • #1
    Matt_at
    Level 9  
    Hello, As there is already a tinplate on the plot, I wanted to ask you:

    1. What automation do you recommend ?? The dimensions of the door to the plate are 3m wide x 2.60h lifted up. I will add that I have a NICE automation for the entrance gate (the remote control is NICE ON2E 2-channel remote control).
    I would like to open / close the gate with one button and open / close the door to the metal plate with the other button.

    2. Does it have to be nice automation ?? There are 500 zlotys on the allegro - some strange companies ...
    3. Will I need an extended antenna?
    4. Is assembly difficult?

    Moderated By Marek J.:

    Please ask yourself a bit of trouble in the future and remember the "search" option and limit the questions to those that have not been answered ...



    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/viewtopic.php?p=15754538#15754538

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhlOw2WCJBM

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/viewtopic.php?p=12517126#12517126

    ... this is for quick-found topics (and there are more) ...

    3.1.16. Do not post questions that are easily answered on the Internet or in the electrode forum.

  • #2
    daro31ie
    Automation specialist
    Matt_at wrote:
    Hello, As there is already a tinplate on the plot, I wanted to ask you:

    1. What automation do you recommend ?? The dimensions of the door to the plate are 3m wide x 2.60h lifted up. I will add that I have a NICE automation for the entrance gate (the remote control is NICE ON2E 2-channel remote control).
    I would like to open / close the gate with one button and open / close the door to the metal plate with the other button.
    It is possible, but on a different remote control.

    2. Does it have to be nice automation. NO
    ?? There are 500 zlotys on the allegro - some strange companies ...
    3. Will I need an extended antenna?
    4. Is assembly difficult?
    L
    Easy enough.
  • #3
    Matt_at
    Level 9  
    To the moderator:
    You provided some links that do not match my questions

    Moderated By Marek J.:

    Two words enough for a wise head ...



    To a colleague above:
    Ok, I can handle the assembly, and any details for the remaining questions?
  • #4
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    It's like this: the first moderator's link leads to a fairly detailed report on the assembly of the drive with automatic bolts (I gave the guest this and that) - if you read carefully, there is also an answer to question 3 (and not only - especially the guest put emphasis on strengthening the structure of the plate) - the client tried without an external antenna, but the range was poor and pulled out the antenna in the simplest possible way - using a ready-made antenna and attaching the shortened original antenna to the center vein of the concentrator.

    Quote:
    I will add that I have NICE automatics for the entrance gate (the remote control is NICE ON2E 2-channel remote control).
    I would like to open / close the gate with one button and open / close the door to the metal plate with the other button.
    It is possible, but on a different remote control.

    2. Does it have to be nice automation. NO


    No
    On the part of the control and remotes - you connect an external receiver cooperating with Nice One remotes (e.g. the original Nice receiver plugged into the relay adapter card - PLN 200; or a replacement - the Proxmia NMxFL (Flor) receiver - Flor is compatible with ONE / ERA - for about 120 PLN PLN) to any drive and you have any drive talking to Nice pilots.

    Quote:
    Does automation necessarily have to be nice ?? There are 500 zlotys on the allegro - some strange companies ...


    Your choice. Personally, I have PLN 320 and it works for 4 years. For Nice and Faaca (and to a lesser extent for other "brand" ones) you will find virtually all spare parts in the event of a devastating breakdown - and for my ML500 drive, for example, only spare remote controls and a cart is available.
    There is also the question of the guarantee - for nonams (or cheap nams) with a ... ro there is only the guarantee that the seller will provide - and if he melts like a golden dream, the guarantee is also. The same is the case with branded drives sold in retail in various online and ... shops - for such a drive (not mounted by an authorized installer) the company's headquarters does not give a guarantee and you can also count on the seller's warranty.
    Actually, you can only count on what-such warranty in the full meaning of the purchase of a hypermarket version of the brand designed typically for self-assembly.
  • #5
    Matt_at
    Level 9  
    Thank you so much for this answer I meant. My garage is made of 50x30 closed profiles, so it is reinforced.
    So, basically, I buy automation that supports external remote control input, I buy proxime or nice and for a kick.
  • #6
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 40  
    kotbury wrote:
    Your choice. Personally, I have PLN 320 and it works for 4 years. For Nice and Faaca (and to a lesser extent for other "brand" ones) you will find virtually all spare parts in the event of a devastating breakdown - and for my ML500 drive, for example, only spare remote controls and a cart is available.

    Only the price of anything thicker is, for example, PLN 540 for an electronics board than nice ???
    Recently, I have changed my mind about the quality of these proprietary drives, especially in the quality / price ratio category, Unfortunately, but expensive drives for garages for PLN 1,200 break in the same way as those for PLN 500, and certainly the same after a storm ... :D
  • #7
    Matt_at
    Level 9  
    I watched what and how and I have a question how it should look like.
    Namely, I am buying a proxime that works with my pilot. Then he buys the cheapest automation as long as it supports the possibility of connecting an external switch, e.g. a contact as for a bell. That's where I plug in proxime. I add an antenna to the proxima and connect the power supply from the control panel.

    Or so ? Because when I look at photos of motherboards, I do not see any connectors on the connection of external drivers ...

    Moderated By Marek J.:

    And again ...
    http://3as.pl/data/documents/d600id1000.pdf (chapter 8.3 -open A)
    http://ftp.nice.pl/nice/instrukcje/garazowe/SPIN%20wyd.02.pdf (chapter 3.5 -PP)
    http://www.splendoor.pl/sites/default/files/pliki/bramy-a5-cz-b-akceptacja.pdf (chapter 5 page 4 - wall button)
    e.t.c...
    A colleague has been on the forum for 8 years. Is it really a colleague can not think and search or is the colleague not wanting and looking for "African-Americans"?
    3.1.16. Do not post questions that are easily answered on the Internet or in the electrode forum.
    3.1.17. Do not post very basic questions, the answers to which can be found in the manual or publicly available sources. Do not take the attitude that I am due. Take care of the level of questions and discussions. Thank you.

  • #8
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    Everything like this. and when you decide on something - for peace of mind, ask the seller about entering the button. 95% of garage drives have them.
    Quote:
    I have a garage made of closed profiles 50x30, so it is reinforced

    It is not about the construction of the entire garage, but the reliability of those places that take the greatest loads during the operation of the drive - that is, the place where the pull bar holder is attached to the leaf and the traction rail is attached to the frame or wall above (screwing the same standard with 4 screws to e.g. a market gate with a framed leaf) with a thin sheet metal angle, at best, the screws are torn out, and the whole wing frame is bent in the worst case) - I generally do not recommend fixing it to the sheet metal without a solid reinforcing spacer.
    The rest of the fixings - e.g. suspending the drive to the ceiling - can even be made of string :) .
  • #10
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    Do not bother the topic, just call and ask ...
  • #11
    rocco26l
    Level 14  
    You will be buying a radio in proxima, then ask about the drive
  • #12
    sznyt
    Level 11  
    I can recommend BFT as a drive manufacturer. The forum here once helped me and I am very pleased. Of course you would have to check if the parameters are correct. So far I have been using it for almost a year without problems.
  • #13
    Matt_at
    Level 9  
    I bought equipment from leroY merlin and I am mega satisfied.
    Soft start and stop, obstacle detection, 2 remote controls, possibility of connecting a battery (24V motor), possibility of a separate button and output for 2 lamps (up to 60W), possibility of connecting photocells - not available in Poland. Price: PLN 399. 2 remote controls included :)