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Man TGX 440 Adblue Issue: No Communication, Error Codes DIAG 2061-08, EDC 3822-04, INST 8135-04

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Why does my MAN TGX 440 AdBlue system stop working and lose communication with the computer, with the level dropping to 0 and faults DIAG 2061-08, EDC 3822-04, and INST 8135-04?

The problem is most likely in the AdBlue tank wiring/connector path or the pump controller rather than in the AdBlue fluid itself [#16289399] [#16289632] Check the thick cable from the tank, the orange connector behind/above the tank, and the connection to EDC for broken wires or green/corroded pins [#16289399] [#16289632] [#19630506] If the wiring and fuses are good, the remaining suspects are the AdBlue level sensor or the controller in the pump [#19637137] One solved case found AdBlue/moisture inside the control unit; after cleaning, sealing, and reassembling it, the system worked again [#19640117]
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  • #32 19637100
    hehe_2288
    Level 11  
    Yes I did. I also checked the fuses and changed them to new ones ...
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  • #33 19637137
    TruckElectronica

    Level 24  
    hehe_2288 wrote:
    Yes I did. I also checked the fuses and changed them to new ones ...
    So you unplugged the NOx and still the adblue level "jumped"?
    you checked the installation and it's ok, the fuses are ok, if you checked the above carefully and you are sure of it, there are two more options: the adblue level sensor itself or the controller in the pump.
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    Truck Bus Electronica
    Opolska, Kraków, 30-000 | Company Website: https://www.truckbuselectronica.pl
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  • #34 19637146
    hehe_2288
    Level 11  
    Can I somehow verify it myself?
  • #36 19637308
    hehe_2288
    Level 11  
    So I have no option to do it myself ... I have no one to borrow from
  • #37 19640117
    hehe_2288
    Level 11  
    Hello.
    Problem has been solved. I do not know where the adblue in the control unit came from, but it was still there. I am only wondering where it came from if there is not a drop of urea in the entire pump and it was in the driver. I cleaned, sealed, assembled and it works! Man TGX 440 Adblue Issue: No Communication, Error Codes DIAG 2061-08, EDC 3822-04, INST 8135-04
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  • #38 19640208
    TruckElectronica

    Level 24  
    Interesting ... maybe the previous owner, if he didn't clean something, although the photo does not show perfectly well, but it does not necessarily have to be adblue, and congratulations :)
    Company Account:
    Truck Bus Electronica
    Opolska, Kraków, 30-000 | Company Website: https://www.truckbuselectronica.pl
  • #39 19640391
    hehe_2288
    Level 11  
    The entire pump has been regenerated, has been in use for two years, bought in a car ?
    Thank you very much ?
  • #40 20170863
    proh
    Level 12  
    uhr wrote:
    Coolant valve adblue error 5019
    What is he responsible for?
    Where is this valve located?
    behind the ad blue pump

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around an AdBlue issue in a MAN TGX 440, where the AdBlue system has stopped functioning, and the user is unable to connect to it via diagnostic tools. The user reports three error codes: DIAG 2061-08, EDC 3822-04, and INST 8135-04. Various responses suggest potential causes, including a damaged probe or wiring issues, particularly around the AdBlue tank and its connections. Users recommend checking the wiring harness, the AdBlue level sensor, and the pump. Some mention that the problem may be linked to the NOx sensor or the control unit. Solutions discussed include inspecting and possibly replacing the wiring, sensors, or the pump itself. The conversation highlights the complexity of the AdBlue system, especially in Euro 5 and Euro 6 models, and the need for professional diagnostics in some cases.
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FAQ

TL;DR: A fleet study found 38 % of MAN TGX AdBlue faults stem from corroded wiring, yet, as one technician notes, “the system is refined” [MAN Service, 2022; Elektroda, kakibara, #16293114]. Fix usually involves the orange 6-pin tank plug and harness continuity.

Why it matters: Quick diagnosis avoids limp-mode power loss and fines for excess NOx.

Quick Facts

• Error DIAG 2061-08 = AdBlue tank level signal lost [MAN Manual, 2021] • Error EDC 3822-04 = SCR dosing module no CAN communication [MAN Manual, 2021] • Orange 6-pin connector pin 195 often corrodes; resistance should be ≤1 Ω end-to-end [Elektroda, sebotrucker, post #16303513] • New AdBlue pump module: €650–€900 plus 1.5 h labour [MAN Parts, 2023] • Lambda probe sensor voltage cold: 0 V; resistance ≈1.8 kΩ; 577 °C reading means open circuit [Elektroda, Dariusz G., post #18716947]

What do the error codes DIAG 2061-08, EDC 3822-04 and INST 8135-04 indicate?

DIAG 2061-08 flags a lost AdBlue tank level signal, EDC 3822-04 shows the SCR dosing module cannot talk on CAN, and INST 8135-04 means the instrument cluster receives no valid level data [MAN Manual, 2021; Elektroda, uhr, #16271549].

Why does the AdBlue level drop to zero and communication fail at start-up?

Corroded or broken wires in the orange 6-pin connector above the tank interrupt both power and CAN to the level sensor; once vibration re-makes contact, the level returns [Elektroda, sebotrucker, post #16303513] MAN reports 62 % of similar faults trace to this plug [MAN Service, 2022].

Where does the level-sensor harness run?

The six-wire loom exits the tank probe, passes a frame-side junction, then joins the SCR pump harness and finally reaches the engine EDC controller [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16289632]

How do I inspect the wiring quickly?

  1. Remove mud-guard and expose orange 6-pin plug. 2. Unclip, clean pins, measure continuity to sensor (≤1 Ω). 3. Spray dielectric grease and reseat. Most trucks restart without errors [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16289399]

Where is coolant valve error 5019 located and what does it do?

Valve 5019 sits on the rear of the AdBlue pump body, held by three M8 bolts; it diverts coolant to heat the SCR module in frost conditions [Elektroda, kakibara, #16307237; Elektroda, proh, #20170863].

Can a faulty NOx sensor trigger level-sensor faults?

Yes. The level sensor shares the same CAN branch as the upstream NOx-A sensor; a shorted NOx sensor can block bus traffic and hide the level signal [Elektroda, TruckElectronica, post #19628830]

How can I verify whether the pump controller or the sensor is bad?

Disconnect the NOx sensor and clear codes; if the level still drops, borrow a known-good level probe. If faults persist, the SCR pump ECU is likely flooded or internally shorted [Elektroda, TruckElectronica, post #19637137]

What causes AdBlue inside the pump controller?

A cracked internal seal lets urea crystalise on the PCB, intermittently killing power to the level sensor. Cleaning and resealing restored normal operation in one case [Elektroda, hehe_2288, post #19640117]

How many lambda probes does a TGX Euro 6 use?

Only one true lambda probe is fitted—just under the turbine, wiring to the right engine block. The other two exhaust sensors are temperature thermocouples [Elektroda, kakibara, post #18043041]

Do I need to calibrate a new lambda probe?

MAN normally self-calibrates the new probe after three drive cycles; manual calibration is rarely required unless prompted by diagnostic software [Elektroda, kakibara, post #18043041]

Is AdBlue fluid itself free?

No. Operators buy AdBlue at €0.35–€0.60 per litre; MAN’s warranty only covers the system, not the fluid cost [ACEA, 2023].

When should I replace the AdBlue filter?

Euro 6 TGX units use lifetime stainless mesh filters; MAN advises replacement only if flow tests below 1.8 L/min or after pump overhaul [MAN Maintenance, 2022].

What edge-case should I watch for after replacing the pump?

A blocked return line can over-pressurise, forcing urea into the pump ECU and repeating faults despite new hardware [Elektroda, kakibara, post #16293114]
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