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You need the DTR Schrack Seconet B6X2CP Fire Alarm Control Panel

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  • #1 16328574
    Bezpaw
    Level 8  
    Good morning;
    I am asking you for help - can anyone have a User Manual for the Schrack Seconet B6X2CP Central Unit. It is about the possibility of blocking it (during the inspection) so that the signal is not redirected to the Fire Department and blocking the smoke exhaust system controlled from the SAP Headquarters.
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    #2 16332976
    synology1
    Level 16  
    Schrack = closed group the instruction will not give you anything, if you have the right password you can enter the MODAKT function it is responsible for outputs and blocks all outputs. You can also try to disable the outputs from the panel without using a computer but you need to know what output is responsible for notification to PSP and He does not understand why his colleague pushes into this system.
  • #3 16471905
    Bezpaw
    Level 8  
    synology1 wrote:
    Schrack = closed group the instruction will not give you anything, if you have the right password you can enter the MODAKT function it is responsible for outputs and blocks all outputs. You can also try to disable the outputs from the panel without using a computer but you need to know what output is responsible for notification to PSP and He does not understand why his colleague pushes into this system.



    We won the tender for the service, there are Polon Alfa Centrale everywhere and it was bad luck that there was one Schrack and a problem appeared. What's more, there was a fault (even three) and you had to use an authorized service (SUPON). Despite the training at Schrack - which did nothing anyway, the answer from the manufacturer is that authorized companies are only supposed to sell, there was no other choice. To sum up, I sensitize others (not having authorization) to Schrack Seconet for the service, you will not earn money, but you will only let others earn - authorized, this is the company's policy!

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    synology1 wrote:
    Schrack = closed group the instruction will not give you anything, if you have the right password you can enter the MODAKT function it is responsible for outputs and blocks all outputs. You can also try to disable the outputs from the panel without using a computer but you need to know what output is responsible for notification to PSP and He does not understand why his colleague pushes into this system.


    One more thing, a friend is from our side, I invite you to cooperate withoutaw(_at_)poczta.onet.pl (we often have something we cannot cope with).
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  • #4 16787060
    carpettoo
    Level 9  
    By the way, there is no modakt command, only the outputs are blocked or the outputs are frozen in newer control panels. However, in some cases the danger of outputs does not block all controls and it is necessary to remove the jumper from the relay card. In addition, to put the control panel in the test, you need a service assisant or iap for the 7+ schracka because blocking the outputs does not increase the sensitivity of the detectors, so I feel the smoke is a tragedy because the detectors sample before they enter the right fire and smoke lasts forever
  • #5 16787740
    synology1
    Level 16  
    carpettoo wrote:
    By the way, there is no modakt command, only a blocking of outputs or freezing of outputs in newer control panels

    Not true v6, you can also freeze the outputs and use the Modakt command
    I can see that my friend is fresh after the training, since he claims that there is no Modakt function.
    If there is a programmed function, it can be entered from the Modakt control panel level, usually it is a higher level when entering the code. Then you can freeze the outputs and the display will show MODAKT so please do not mislead, the rest is correct
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  • #6 16788707
    carpettoo
    Level 9  
    But are you serious? And also the text that I am fresh out of training :d Well, ok, then I will lead you out of a mistake. On the control panel, when the outputs are frozen or blocked, the message modakt 1/16...appears. This means that the control outputs are blocked. However, this is NOT a modakt function, but the effect of the outputs being blocked.... Honestly, I can't make it any clearer, so I hope this answer will suffice. Modakt is also displayed (but with a different number) when a fuse is blown from a card with voltage outputs, or when you declare me this type of element in the construction of the control panel when programming, and another one is actually inserted.... And are you seriously still saying that there is a modakt function? I honestly think that using the term "modakt" here, to block the outputs, is misleading, because what if a service technician comes, the display shows modakt, but because of that, he blows a fuse and someone thinks it is a blockade... So again... there is NO modakt function in the menu.... There is only lock and freeze and the message modakt 1/16 on the control panel indicates that this option has been selected.... Regards
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  • #7 16789544
    synology1
    Level 16  
    I propose to use the technical support hotline or to retrain Adam Z, he will not be satisfied with the participant who participated in the training.
    You can block all outputs directly from the fire control panel without using a computer after entering a higher-level password and selecting the MODAKT function. The claim that there is no such thing is your ignorance.
  • #8 16789573
    carpettoo
    Level 9  
    It is a bit weak to constrain; D Modakt is an element of the control panel that is damaged, blocked, marked with specific numbers :D And it's just a message on the display :D The blockade of the outputs is marked 1/16 ... But I will not write this twice, because there is no point in arguing here; DI I have a request ... please do not mislead people further, because I have a day contact with the Scharck switchboard from b3 to b7 during the day :D And if it is necessary, I can send the photo so that my writing would not be wasted and someone took out at least a minimum of knowledge :D
  • #9 16791218
    synology1
    Level 16  
    Well, we are waiting for photos, as I wrote, if the control panel has an output lock programmed, we can enter MODAKT from the top level of the control panel and lower the sensitivity of the detectors from the highest level and perform tests without using a computer - control function. extinguishing systems connected in the network to fly from each separately and remove the solenoid valve or unfasten the flaps so that they do not go through the tests.
    You need the DTR Schrack Seconet B6X2CP Fire Alarm Control Panel
    carpettoo wrote:
    In addition, to introduce the control panel to the test, you need a service assisant or iap for the schrack 7+ because blocking the outputs does not increase the sensitivity of the detectors, so I feel the smoke is a tragedy because the detectors sample before they enter the right fire and the smoke lasts forever

    Of course, we can lower the sensitivity of the detectors without using a computer
    It programs the control panels in such a way that from level 8 it is possible to perform tests without the use of a computer and block the outputs, not to mention the possibility of replacing the detector or another element without using a computer. But you are a young man so it makes no sense to overdo it. Regards and a lot of health and fun with Schrack exchanges
  • #10 16791334
    carpettoo
    Level 9  
    Doing maintenance by putting groups on a test is idiocy. With huge objects in the control panel, schrack from the panel will not put the entire control panel into the test, but individual groups. Without good documentation, it's like asking for trouble, and the screen you give is just a change of the access level + group / element support, not any modact: d so .. again .. modakt is a message on the display, because it was the subject of the conversation , and blocking the outputs is an option that causes the MODACT 1/16 message to appear. If you put the groups in control, they will appear in disconnections without any modakt, only after pressing the exact info you have control.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Schrack Seconet B6X2CP Fire Alarm Control Panel, specifically regarding the ability to block outputs during inspections to prevent signals from being redirected to the Fire Department and to control the smoke exhaust system. Users share insights on accessing the MODAKT function, which is believed to manage output blocking. There is debate over the existence and functionality of the MODAKT command, with some asserting it allows for freezing outputs, while others clarify that it is merely a display message indicating output status. The conversation highlights the challenges of servicing Schrack systems without authorization and the necessity of proper training and documentation for effective maintenance.
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