Audio beyond HDMI - How to connect audio on TV with DVI (without HDMI)

Hello,
I have an old TV with such a set of inputs:

The TV does not have a built-in DVB-T tuner, therefore the external tuner is connected using an HDMI cable with an adapter to DVI and separately "cinch" audio cables.
I would like to change the tuner to Ferguson FBOX 3 TV whose inputs / outputs look like this:

This tuner has no JACK or cinch audio outputs, so I would like to ask how best to transmit the audio signal to the TV?
Assuming the image will be uploaded as before.
Is it a good solution to connect the S / PDIF output on the tuner with the JACK input on the TV with an adapter?

And an additional question about the antenna input and output on the tuner:
Will I get HD quality by connecting the tuner to the TV with an ordinary antenna cable?

See this cable:

https://www.conrad.pl/?websale7=conrad&pi=993...gclid=CLPFtJXyxtICFQjgGQod2DgEwQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

music wrote:

See this cable:

https://www.conrad.pl/?websale...tICFQjgGQod2DgEwQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

Very interesting ...
Could a colleague write where this cable - the audio path - would be connected to this Ferguson decoder?
I would be grateful for your response.

@ Cink4 - in this specific situation, a colleague needs a DAC converter - we suggest FIIO3 on this forum.

From the converter output, a colleague will connect the cinch cables to the audio input on the TV - as it is now.

You may need to change the audio settings on your decoder
- set optical output as default audio output
- setting the audio stream to PCM.

Polon_us wrote:

music wrote:

See this cable:

https://www.conrad.pl/?websale...tICFQjgGQod2DgEwQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

Very interesting ...
Could a colleague write where this cable - the audio path - would be connected to this Ferguson decoder?
I would be grateful for your response.

In Ferguson, HDMI is split into DVI and Audio. Version 1.4 HDMi connector (as in this Ferguson) enables output of eight-channel sound. Otherwise. Why did someone come up with such a cable?

Thank you for your interest in this topic.

@music Are you able to guarantee that this cable will work?

@Polon_us This converter is another hundred ... is it worthwhile? I'm not an audiophile, and the sound is played on ordinary TV speakers.

As for my second question, can someone answer what image (and if at all) will be via the antenna output on the tuner?

I can't guarantee you, but the hardware manufacturer will do it. On his website you can read:

"Ferguson FBOX 3 TV provides support for multi-channel audio tracks: DTS and Dolby Digital passthrough (SPDIF) and Dolby TrueHD passthrough (HDMI)"

I will add one more. There's a little bit about this Ferguson on the web. In tests, they connect it to their head via HDMI. I have not encountered the option of connecting audio via SPDIF, although it is probably possible.

music wrote:

See this cable:

https://www.conrad.pl/?websale...tICFQjgGQod2DgEwQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

In this cable, the audio does not come out of HDMI, but is a separate cable. You don't have (audio) Jack on the tuner so you won't use it for anything.
As Polon_us wrote, either s / pdif to chinch converter or s / pdif to s / pdif cable + HDMI to DVI cable.
Just check in the tuner options beforehand if you can set the sound output via s / pdif.

music wrote:

"Ferguson FBOX 3 TV provides support for multi-channel audio tracks: DTS and Dolby Digital passthrough (SPDIF) and Dolby TrueHD passthrough (HDMI)"

You would read it, because there is no analog output in Ferguson, and there is no digital input on the TV. Only an additional DAC remains! The cable you sent is like a DVI HDMI and Jack Jack cable, only in one cable, not in two.

kazo.m wrote:

Just check in the tuner options beforehand if you can set the sound output via s / pdif.

I do not have the tuner yet, I want to make sure that it makes sense to buy it.
But since it has S / PDIF output, it should probably have this option?

As for the DAC converter:
I understand that you recommend FIIO3 because it is proven and well made. And do you know any cheaper substitutes that fulfill their task?

Okay. You are right. Only digital sound comes out of HDMi. It won't work. I'm sorry for the trouble.

Moderated By Mirek Z.:

So please think through your advice in advance, is it worth writing everything (quickly?). Then a few unnecessary posts, reports, etc.

The question may be fundamental: what does this new tuner have better than the old one?

You can search for Chinese inventions on a well-known auction site (search for the word DAC ). You can already buy something for several dozen zlotys.

Cink4 wrote:

And an additional question about the antenna input and output on the tuner:
Will I get HD quality by connecting the tuner to the TV with an ordinary antenna cable?

Cink4 wrote:

As for my second question, can someone answer what image (and if at all) will be via the antenna output on the tuner?

I don't really understand these questions.
The ANT OUT output is a normal via, ie it does not work as a modulator.
Using this output would make sense if a colleague would connect another device with a built-in tuner, be it a TV or a recorder.
Picture quality depends on broadcasting programs and built-in tuner.

My quite obvious disapproval of the suggested cable has already been answered by my colleagues

kazikszach wrote:

The question may be fundamental: what does this new tuner have better than the old one?

The answer is ... it works. The one I have currently starts cropping the image and resets unexpectedly.
Besides, the new one has "Smart TV" functions, the whole discussion reminded me why when I bought my first tuner I chose a used old one instead of a new one. Well, then there was a problem with the sound and I figured that the tuner with the COMPONENT VIDEO output would allow me to connect the tuner directly to the TV (I think I even asked here on the forum if I would get HD quality through these cables, but I did not receive an answer). I bought an older tuner instead of a new one because the new ones had only HDMI outputs. After the purchase, it turned out that COMPONENT does not provide HD quality, but it was possible with an HDMI to DVI adapter.
Now, however, I would prefer something from the store and with a guarantee, and Smart TV will also be useful.

Polon_us wrote:

I don't really understand these questions.
The ANT OUT output is a normal via, ie it does not work as a modulator.
Using this output would make sense if a colleague would connect another device with a built-in tuner, be it a TV or a recorder.
Picture quality depends on broadcasting programs and built-in tuner.

I don't know anything about it. I thought that maybe the tuner will send the image in the "old format" through this antenna output, such as cable, eg.
He understands that it is impossible.

Cink4 wrote:

that maybe the tuner will send the "old format" image through this antenna output just like cable

I would answer this question if I knew what "old format like cable" means.
A colleague can clarify this question?
Or to put it another way?

This is a technical forum and the requirement is generally to be specific (if possible) about the problem.

Cink4 wrote:

I don't know anything about it. I thought that maybe the tuner will send the image in the "old format" through this antenna output, such as cable, eg.
He understands that it is impossible.

Probably the author is talking about a modulator like in VCRs, but he already got the answer that it is only a pass-through.
In this case, only the recommended converter can be used.

@Polon_us - I meant more or less that the TV set received a signal broadcast by cable TV without any problems. Without any tuners, etc. I thought that the tuner would work as my colleague @kazikszach said as a "modulator", that is, it will change the digital terrestrial TV signal to one that can be accepted by the TV set.

Coming back to the converter, has it ever happened that some devices had an SPDIF output installed, but for some reason it was impossible to set the sound output through this connector?

The case is obvious.
The cable signal is broadcast in a specific standard, and the terrestrial signal has its broadcast standard.
If the TV does not have a DVB-T tuner, it will not receive the terrestrial signal directly.
And nothing will help here.

Cink4 wrote:

Has it happened that some devices had an SPDIF output installed but for some reason it was impossible to set the sound output through this connector?

If the device is working properly, this possibility should not occur.

Thanks to everyone for your help.