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Satel Integra 128 with ETHM-1: Browser Ignores Tag and Java Installation Queries

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  • #1 16339431
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    Hello,
    This time I have a bit of a strange problem, I have configured the Integra - ETHM - Router connection, so I can see the ETHM-1 login panel locally via 192.168.0.101:8085, but after entering the port and password, it gives me the following error: " Your browser is ignoring the tag! Install JAVA! ", I tried many ways, but I didn't find anything, maybe someone of you had a similar problem?
    Satel Integra 128 with ETHM-1: Browser Ignores Tag and Java Installation Queries
    Regards
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  • #2 16339496
    reweriko

    Level 25  
    After all, it writes ....Install JAVA!
  • #3 16339637
    Koola
    Level 11  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    maybe some of you had a similar problem?

    For me it is like this on all browsers (FF, GC, IE), on all computers (3 x Win7 64bit / 2 x Win10 64bit) and on phones (Android / Windows) - no versions of Java (32/64 bit) and no way to install them.

    On PC I only use GuardX.
  • #4 16339858
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    @reweriko
    Sorry, forgot to add... I have the latest version of Java installed.
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  • #5 16339870
    jarek1
    Level 27  
    Try adding the website address to trusted sites. Also check on port 80
  • #6 16339966
    xury
    Automation specialist  
    Browser support has not been working for a long time, and Satel doesn't care.
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  • #7 16339997
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    @jarek1
    I changed the port to 80. I added the site to trusted sites in chrome and still nothing.

    Can it be controlled via the app?

    @xury
    Why do they sell ETHM modules if they can't make them properly? :(
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    #8 16340013
    Koola
    Level 11  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    Can it be controlled via the app?

    I did not have the opportunity to check the functionality of the control via www, but ZTCW to GuardX gives more possibilities.
    Via www you have access to the virtual keypad and all control/control is done by this keypad, and in GuardX you have the facility map visualization module, event history module, users module and virtual keypad.
  • #9 16340024
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    Koola wrote:
    Via www you have access to the virtual keypad and all control/control is done by this keypad, and in GuardX you have the facility map visualization module, event history module, users module and virtual keypad.

    I know, but the problem is that ultimately the system is on a plot and I would like to be able to turn it ON / OFF from a house several hundred kilometers away (and through GuardX, as far as I know, it's just a cable), I'll try to configure the application, we'll see what happens come out. :)
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    #10 16340043
    Koola
    Level 11  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    Why do they sell ETHM modules if they can't make them properly? :(

    New browsers "ignore" Java for security reasons - probably if you used some older version of FF/IE 32bit it would work.
    Satel, probably due to little interest in remote control via www, did not change the technology and the system "died".

    Currently, control from a computer via GuardX and from a phone via (Integra Control / MobileKPD-2 Pro+) gives much more functionality than control via the web. It is true that when controlling via www, it could be done from any computer (without installing additional software), but entering IDs / passwords on random computers is not very safe and you can install GuardX on your own computer and work - additionally, in the era of smartphones, most users probably prefer to have access from the mobile application.
    I'm just wondering why Satel doesn't provide an application for Windows Mobile ;(

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    Ten Tego... wrote:
    I know, but the problem is that ultimately the system is on the plot and I would like to be able to turn it ON / OFF from a house several hundred kilometers away (and through GuardX, as far as I know, it's just a cable)

    What cable?
    Both computer applications (GuardX / DloadX) and mobile applications (Integra Control / MobileKPD-2 Pro+) work remotely - if you properly configure the ETHM module and link (router), you can log into the system from any place / device - e.g. from a computer in home several hundred kilometers away or from the phone while standing on the street in front of the plot...
  • #11 16340066
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    Koola wrote:
    Both computer applications (GuardX / DloadX) and mobile applications (Integra Control / MobileKPD-2 Pro+) work remotely - if you properly configure the ETHM module and link (router), you can log into the system from any place / device - e.g. from a computer in home several hundred kilometers away or from the phone while standing on the street in front of the plot...


    Oh, I didn't know that, thanks for the tip.


    What is the difference between Integra Control and MobileKPD-2 Pro+?
  • #13 16340111
    Koola
    Level 11  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    What is the difference between Integra Control and MobileKPD-2 Pro+?

    For what you need (arm/disarm) both are OK.
    MobileKPD seems to be no longer supported by Satel - it has even been removed from their website and the last version on Google Play is over a year old.
  • #14 16340245
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    Thanks for the replies.
    One more problem...
    A few days ago I was configuring the control panel from the computer, yesterday I did a reset to the mouth. factory computer and now I have a problem.
    When connecting the control panel to DloadX (via cable), I get the following error:
    Satel Integra 128 with ETHM-1: Browser Ignores Tag and Java Installation Queries

    Anyone know what to do to make the control panel remember that this is the computer from which it will be programmed?
    I will only add that this is the latest version of DloadX


    ///Succeeded, for the future:
    Communication -> Communication configuration -> Rewrite IDENT. Integra, GuardX, DloadX.
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    #15 16340257
    Koola
    Level 11  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    Anyone know what to do to make the control panel remember that this is the computer from which it will be programmed?

    Since you have reset the computer/software, you have probably also reset the saved identifier - check which control panel identifier you have set and set it in the DloadX program.
  • #16 16344187
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    One more question.
    How to connect the control panel to the PC via LAN using the ETHM-1 in the latest version of DLOADX?
    Where should i enter the ip etc?

    I entered the control panel data (and imported the previous settings) in Communication -> Communication Configuration and I have ...
    I am connecting to the server: 192.168.0.101:7090
    Connection failed.
    Disconnected.

    or

    I am connecting to the server: 192.168.0.101:7090
    Makes a connection
    Module: ETHM-1 V1.07
    The control panel ended the call


    Disconnected.

    e.t.c...

    Similarly, in GuardX, Downloading is disabled. What to do?
  • #18 16344422
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    Locally, I have cables from the router to the pc and Ethm-1, so everything is based on one router
  • #19 16349796
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    Anyone have any idea?
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    #20 16350337
    Rob888
    Level 18  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    Hello,
    This time I have a bit of a strange problem, I have configured the Integra - ETHM - Router connection, so I can see the ETHM-1 login panel locally via 192.168.0.101:8085, but after entering the port and password, it gives me the following error: " Your browser is ignoring the tag! Install JAVA! ", I tried many ways, but I didn't find anything, maybe someone of you had a similar problem?
    Satel Integra 128 with ETHM-1: Browser Ignores Tag and Java Installation Queries
    Regards

    ETHM1 modules via browser require old version of JAVA in
    version 7.
    This is due to the fact that when they were designed, the old version of JAVA was in force and in newer versions it is not possible to change the security level to a lower one, therefore it throws a connection error or the browser automatically blocks the connection for security reasons. Adding exceptions to the latest version of Java and other tricks don't help. It helps only to uninstall Java and install its old version lower than 8 which you must have or download from the Internet. Then everything runs. Tested by me on many computers and operating systems.

    Quote:
    How can I control when and how untrusted applications or applets run in my web browser?
    The article concerns:

    Java software versions: 7.0, 8.0

    Java 7u10 introduces the ability to manage when and how untrusted Java applications (i.e. applications that are digitally signed by an unknown publisher or come with a certificate that is not issued by a trusted certification authority) are launched, if they are attached to the website. By setting the security level (in the Java Control Panel), you determine whether:

    The user will be notified before an untrusted Java application is launched (MEDIUM or HIGH), either
    Untrusted applications will be blocked and not run (VERY HIGH).

    Starting with Java 7 Update 51, applets that do not comply with the latest security practices may still be authorized to run; to do so, put their sites on the Exception Site List.

    Starting with Java 8 Update 20, the "Medium" security setting level has been removed from the Java Control Panel. Only "High" and "Very High" levels are available.

    The site exception list allows users to allow applets - which would be allowed by selecting the Medium level - based on specific sites, thereby minimizing the risk of using less restrictive settings.
    https://www.java.com/pl/download/help/jcp_security.xml

    Ten Tego... wrote:
    One more question.
    Similarly, in GuardX, Downloading is disabled. What to do?

    Enter all control panel identifiers correctly in the connection settings, all GUARDX and DLOADX keys and be sure to connect the ETHM1 module to the RS port socket of the control panel, preferably with the factory one:
    RJ/PIN5
    http://www.satel.pl/pl/product/334/RJ/PIN5,Ca...el-with-RJ-socket-and-module-with-PIN5-socket
    because those made by hand rarely work, there is always something wrong or wrongly connected.
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    #21 16517411
    adam.ap
    Level 12  
    Hello
    For me, ETHM-1 Plus worked on WIN10 Home, Internet Explorer 11 and the latest Java 8u131 at the first start. But on other browsers the same message "Your browser is ignoring the tag! Install JAVA!
  • #22 16536355
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    adam.ap wrote:
    For me, ETHM-1 Plus worked on WIN10 Home, Internet Explorer 11 and the latest Java 8u131 at the first start.

    Thank you very much, everything works as it should. I was hoping this page had more features than just a manipulator, but it's not bad. I was about to sell ETHM-1 to someone, but I will keep it for myself :)

    Do you know if you need a public IP address to be able to remotely control the alarm from anywhere in the world, or can it be done without a public IP address?

    One more little problem...
    Generally, I can connect from the phone, via the website and via the local network with GuardX, but with DloadX there is no chance.
    When trying to connect to DloadX, an error appears:
    Code: text Expand Select all Copy to clipboard
    Łączę z serwerem: 192.168.0.104:7090
Nawiązuje połączenie
Moduł: ETHM-1 V1.07
Centrala zakończyła połączenie

Rozłączono.


    I have the original 5pin - 5 pin cable, connected.
    Downloading disabled.
    Do you have any suggestions to solve this problem?

    Additionally:
    In the integrated I have 8# control set and one output assigned (BI), when I enter the Integra Control application (android) and enter 8#, a message pops up: There are no outputs to control.
    What to do?

    Regards
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    #23 16537124
    mayer2005
    Level 17  
    Ten Tego... wrote:


    Do you know if you need a public IP address to be able to remotely control the alarm from anywhere in the world, or can it be done without a public IP address?
    ETHM Plus with the latest firmware does not need a public IP

    Ten Tego... wrote:


    Additionally:
    In the integrated I have 8# control set and one output assigned (BI), when I enter the Integra Control application (android) and enter 8#, a message pops up: There are no outputs to control.
    What to do?
    In the Structure-Hardware-Keypads-ETHM-GuardX/Mobil KPD tab, select the "quick control" option
  • #24 16537411
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    mayer2005 wrote:
    ETHM Plus with the latest firmware does not need a public IP

    ETHM-1 Plus / ETHM-2 Plus or all *Plus?
  • #25 16537439
    mayer2005
    Level 17  
    Ten Tego... wrote:
    mayer2005 wrote:
    ETHM Plus with the latest firmware does not need a public IP

    ETHM-1 Plus / ETHM-2 Plus or all *Plus?
    There is no "double" plus.
  • #26 16537442
    Ten Tego...
    Level 9  
    mayer2005 wrote:
    There is no "double" plus.

    Ah, sorry. I am not familiar with the models of the ETHM module.
    Thanks for the help. :)
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around issues faced by users of the Satel Integra 128 alarm system with the ETHM-1 module, specifically regarding browser compatibility and Java installation errors. Users report encountering a message stating "Your browser is ignoring the tag! Install JAVA!" despite having the latest Java version installed. Various troubleshooting steps are suggested, including adding the site to trusted sites, changing ports, and using older Java versions due to security restrictions in modern browsers. Users express frustration over the lack of support from Satel for web-based control and discuss alternative control methods via the GuardX application and mobile apps. The conversation also touches on connectivity issues with DloadX and the necessity of a public IP for remote access.
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