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Compact Sliding Gate Solutions: User Experiences, Rail Construction, Manufacturers

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  • #1 16346844
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    Hello. Due to the fact that I have little space I became interested in a sliding gate without a counterweight, I found cool solutions. Anyone have, tested it? I would like to see how this rail is built. Do you have any info? manufacturer's website?


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  • #2 16346873
    rafcio_21
    Level 29  
    Quite an interesting solution, it also plans a sliding bracket at home and I have not too much room for a counterbalance, I wonder how it comes out in price compared to a standard solution.
  • #3 16346879
    wierzba123
    Level 16  
    From what companies assembling this invention comment on, for example, fb, this roll in people works. But I can not find the mechanism itself.
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  • #4 16346884
    rafcio_21
    Level 29  
    You would have to ask in stores where they sell gate drives, sometimes I met in shops with cabinets in which there were demonstrations of various drives with the possibility of suspicion of how it works, but I have not encountered such an invention yet.
  • #5 16346889
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    An ingenious solution but there is a lot of bending force, although the aluminum gate has a lower mass than steel.
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    #6 16353301
    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 41  
    Works on film, because new and probably aluminum gate. We will talk after the first winter, and snow with the content of salt.
    In real terms, it is advisable to install a normal gate with rollers and a guide from, for example, the angle bar mounted with arms down on a solid 40x60 profile in the ground.
    For this, under the angle bar, we pull the heating cable, switched on for a few minutes after each gate cycle + thermostat on below, eg 0 ° C. It could be useful. manual in case of snowless winter.
    I have such a gate under the care and I have been working for BX strong for 10 years.
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  • #7 18572618
    wyros
    Level 11  
    Hello

    Does anyone have such a gate and can comment?

    Or maybe someone can recommend a performer who has experience with this?


    Thanks in advance for your help
  • #8 18619051
    Zbigniew 400
    Level 38  
    Just that someone hangs at the end of the gate and there will be problems.
    Huge mechanical loads.
  • #9 18631955
    Mamuel
    Level 2  
    Gates are not hanging, especially on the move.
    The enclosed one is supported in the same way as the one with counterweight.
    Quote:
    Huge mechanical loads.

    They depend on the length, weight of the gate and roller spacing.
    There is a double system here and the whole is matched to the dimensions and weight of the span.
    I am more afraid of charging the wallet - a new dual system is probably expensive.
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  • #10 18631973
    GBW
    Level 31  
    I will ask the question why only the mechanism is shown and not the whole gate?
  • #11 18632189
    Mamuel
    Level 2  
    Because they boast about the mechanism, the gate is a matter of taste.
    Instead they showed flip-flops. :P And the drive is not :(

    I wanted to send links, but unfortunately:
    You have too few posts to post external links and you must wait 24 hours from the date of registration

    For those interested, the company from this system is ceta.at
  • #12 21130969
    waran3
    Level 12  
    andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:
    Then we pull a heating cable under the corner bracket, which is switched on for a few minutes after each door cycle + an on/off thermostat below e.g. 0 degC. A manual override would be useful in the event of a snowless winter.
    .
    I've thought about this too but I already have a gate like this and it rides on such a special profile, semi-circular on top. I wonder how to heat it in winter because sometimes when there is snow it is impossible to move the gate. :-) .
  • #14 21131249
    PROXIMA sj

    Radio controllers specialist
    Drawer mechanisms work in a similar way ... with "a million" steel bearing balls.
    PROXIMILIAN
  • #15 21310066
    oliwerszatanik
    Level 2  
    Hi, if you are looking for answers to your questions about this system, feel free to visit us at Aludom.co.uk. The solution is patented, based on stainless steel and solutions that cannot be understood without dismantling the device. The lack of counterweight, or in fact the shortened tail system, allows us to shorten the tail for example in the case of a 4m sliding gate from 1.5m to 56cm. In some cases this is the only solution to be applied. It is not cheap, unfortunately. Durability? It will quietly outlive us. Only significant mechanical damage to the gate can damage this system. There are no alternatives on the market with such durability. We have been in operation for almost 20 years and only with aluminium. Regards

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    >>18631973 Rightly, we should show the whole performance, not just the mechanism involved in the film. I don't think anyone thought more broadly for those days, they just did what they were told, and the effect years later we see.

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    >>18619051 Just wondering, why do we need to hang on to the end of the gate? I manufacture gates and of course we are expanding, but we have no reason to think about hanging on to the end of the gate. The other thing is, whether it's a steel or aluminium gate, causing the lever to hang up at the end of the gate can put very adverse pressure on the gear wheel of the operator and ultimately start the degradation of the operator and the gear rail. The distance between the toothed bar and the gear wheel should be a minimum of 2mm.
    Going back to the suspension and this type of idea, which none of the manufacturers consider, I would advise against.

    Added after 2 [minutes]: .

    >>18631955 The system is not new it is quite a few years old. First implementation in our market about 16-17 years ago.
  • #16 21310928
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    One but - a gate of what weight will this half-metre-long alu bogie withstand? More like up to 100 kg...
  • #17 21311146
    oliwerszatanik
    Level 2  
    The smallest Atec is designed for gates up to 4350 mm in length or 168 kg in weight. The largest Atec is already for gates max. 9000 mm in length or a weight of 450 kg.
    Looking at the weight of aluminium gates with an entrance clearance of up to 5-4 m, these trolleys are most suitable. Only we use them not for visual need, but because of the lack of solutions when we do not have the possibility to use a standard tail. This is a premium solution for premium, aluminium fences. They require a kit with a dedicated rail. Prices for such a solution for Atec alone range from £4500-10000 net in addition to the gate. We often use this solution on properties where the customer wants to park on the driveway and in the garage, so cannot use either an accordion or a 2-leaf gate. Telescopes are still a precarious design and if I can, I do not use them. We then use a sliding gate and because of the short fence line, we put the Atec on. I have only had one instance where the Atec had to be replaced because there was slack in the rail when the rail was, to put it mildly, unkempt and unserviced, including the automatic. The hooks that catch the rail on the Atec had simply started to abnormally wear out - something that completely should not have happened. Dirt, sand and a faulty automatic over several years has led to the failure of a component that has no right to break down. Of course, I would encourage you to have your gates and automation serviced regularly.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around compact sliding gate solutions that do not require a counterweight, addressing user experiences and construction details. Participants express interest in the mechanisms and rail construction of these gates, with some noting the potential mechanical loads and bending forces involved. Recommendations include consulting stores that sell gate drives for demonstrations and considering traditional gates with rollers and heating cables for winter conditions. A specific manufacturer, CETA, is mentioned, along with concerns about the costs associated with dual systems. Users also discuss the importance of proper installation and the challenges posed by snow and ice during winter.
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