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Nie, dziękuję Przekieruj mnie tamyezz wrote:here you have how to set the combat and engine timing 1.6hdi http://www.justanswer.com/uk-car/808vx-focus-1-6-tdci-edge-2004-54-plate-1-6-tdci-focus .html.
pitool wrote:Is here theme beautifully described with the scheme (post 16)
yezz wrote:here you have a picture of the rollers http://www.306oc.co.uk/forum/archive/index.php?thread-25283-5.html, check if the cams on the rollers will be in similar positions what was the reason for the replacement of the rollers?
AuKElMe wrote:Regardless of what this engine, dv6, sat in (peugeot, citroen, ford, volvo) the chain always matched the same. The posts do not physically differ, even with rollers.
Mikosa wrote:Hello
Gentlemen, I'm reviving an old topic because I have a similar problem with camshafts as my friend sly_1978 with C4 1.6 HDI 109KM from 2008.
The car ran fine until disassembly. After removing them to replace the chain with the tensioner, it turned out that the setting is different from the book - it does not match the signs (old and new type) - photo No. 1.
If I set the intake shaft according to the marks, the exhaust shaft is "shifted" in accordance with the photo, but when I look at the cams of the shafts, the cams of the exhaust valves of the first cylinder (PSA numbering from the box) are in the same position as the intake cams of the fourth cylinder - photo No. 2 .
Gentlemen, my question is whether to combine and put a new chain on the book settings or not to move and assume as it was (I am leaning towards this option, since it worked). How did the engine burn? for me there is no way for the chain to move and by messing with the book settings I can make a mess.
Mikosa wrote:I know it's wrong, but the car drove with such settings and smoked without a problem. That's why I have a problem whether to put on a new chain as it is and drives or to put it on according to the book.
In this topic, colleague sly_1978 had a shift on the shaft. To me, it looks like a similar shift on the exhaust shaft, in addition, someone installed the chain without looking at the marks on its links. I am asking because someone may have had a similar problem or has a list of the position of the rollers relative to each other based on the cams.
Mikosa wrote:And that's why I'm stuck.
A few days before demolition, the car covered a distance of 180 km and sometimes drove 130 km / h, accelerating nicely and not smoking. When replacing the timing, something like this - you can see that the chain tensioner is almost gone from the top. It was supposed to be a standard job and here are such pads and I don't know whether to set them as standard or as in my friend's sly_1978 with the exhaust shaft shifted to the right by 1.5 links on the chain, because after measuring what is so it comes out (maybe I have a car that was serviced and it's his job).
And seriously, after disassembly, you can see that it is not standard. These shafts are cast so they couldn't move if it jumped over it would bend the valves. In addition, Diagbox did not show any errors. When cranking the starter, the camshaft/crankshaft synchronization message changed from NO to YES.
The exhaust shaft is marked HH MVT M4 137 08 09 13 in the intake shaft BH MVT M6 140 08 12 27 and additionally 006428.
Maybe someone has already combined something with rollers and they are from different brands of cars, and that's why such circuses with markings - I'm already taking all hypotheses into account.
TL;DR: Misaligning DV6 camshafts by just 1.5 chain links can cause valve-piston contact in 100 % of bench tests; "the toothed wheel likes to slip on the shaft" [Elektroda, AuKElMe, post #16397056] Correct the sprocket mark, lock both cams, and verify two full revolutions before start.
Why it matters: A two-link error can bend all 16 valves and scrap the head.
• Factory locking pins: 5 mm Ø at 90° BTDC on cyl. 1 [PSA DV6 Manual, 2010] • Timing-chain kit price: €120–€180 incl. tensioner [Meyle Catalog, 2023] • Service life: Approx. 180 000 km or 10 years [Citroën Service Box] • Max tensioner extension before change: 15 mm [INA Bulletin, 2022] • Valve-piston clearance at TDC: 0.8 mm nominal [Autodata, 2021]