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Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines

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  • #1 16381940
    hadson81
    Level 7  
    Hello.
    I wear with the intention of submitting a groundbait boat on the basis of the fishunter hull.
    As in electronics is a bit weak please help me complete the components. I managed to find such a miracle ;)

    FlySky FS-i6 + receiver iA6
    2x GPX Extreme engines: SWIFT 500 12V engine
    2x speed regulators;
    a-ROCKET-60A-BRUSHED - http://www.rc4max.com/regulator_szczotkowy_rocket_360a_-_wodoodporny,405,30867.html
    b- ESC 320A - http://allegro.pl/regulator-szczotkowy-esc-320a-do-aut-a-lodz-24h-i6738071700.html
    c- possibly one of this page - http://modelhobby.republika.pl/regle/regle.htm
    here I would ask for help that will be better.
    2x aku gel 6v 7.2Ah connected in parallel

    If you have any suggestions, please write, as I have already written, I am slightly green in these matters, every advice will be useful.
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  • #2 16382151
    szymon122
    Level 38  
    hadson81 wrote:
    2x aku gel 6v 7.2Ah connected in parallel

    And you have 12V engines, think about it.

    I would consider the regulator "One-way regulator for the brush motor TURNIGY" from the last page.

    You must have forgotten your helm for servicing.
  • #3 16382391
    Madrik
    moderator of Robotics
    I would use the power supply, similarly to the advice of a colleague above - 12 V. It would be matched to the engines.

    Why do you need such powerful regulators, if these motors, according to the specification have a maximum current of about 2 A? This also shows their low power. The boat is often a few kilos of cargo. Push it on water, you need a lot of power.
    If you fall into the seaweed - these engines can not do anything. It is worth to attach a strong line to the boat to be able to download it. You can adapt a broken rod with a reel here.

    Be sure to select a car controller (bi-directional). In boats, you often have to unload the rubbish from the screw and the reverse gear is needed. In your case, a regulator (and motors) suitable for water cooling would be ideal.

    As you can see, you based yourself on the description from the Gimmik store.

    It is also important what speed these motors have (here slow rotation), whether the drive will be direct or through the transmission, and in which screw you will equip each motor.

    The steering can be without a rudder, only based on speed differentiation.
    This gives hulls, a catamaran - the most popular in groundbait boats, high maneuverability.
  • #4 16382621
    1 PAWEL
    Level 42  
    If I recommend the two motors -
    http://www.rc4max.com/regulator_szczotkowy_rocket_360a_-_wodoodporny,2616,30867.html 2zt.
    For this type of regulator the supply voltage range is 7.4 - 11.1V Lipo or 6 - 10.8V NiMH
    Or
    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-Waterproo...-3A-BEC-T-Plug-For-1-10/32629024318.html?spm= 2114.010208.3.102.hwDbA1 & ws_ab_test = searchweb0_0, searchweb201602_0_10065_10068_10136_10137_10138_10060_10062_10141_10056_10055_10054_122_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10144_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10143_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10037_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10122_10123_10124, searchweb201603_0, afswitch_1, ppcSwitch_5, single_sort_0_default & btsid = f48b1138-7e58-41f0-9a6c-2c8a3c4a2f73 & algo_expid = 5038c676-9aad-40db-812d-da2c1ec7c2f4-11 & algo_pvid = 5038c676-9aad-40db-812d-da2c1ec7c2f4

    Power supply:
    o 2 LiPo targets (7.4V) or 5 - 6 NiMH targets for 540, 550 or 8T motors or below 45,000 rpm
    o 3 LiPo targets (11,1V) or 7 - 9 NiMH cells for 540, 550 or 13T motors, or less than 30000 rpm You can use the NiMH 6,2V target packet 6 (or 7-9 NiMH cells I do not recommend)

    It is better to buy 2 x LiPo 7.4V 5000mAh then the length of swimming will be significantly longer.
    No additional cooling will be required with this type and power of the regulator.
    engines
    http://www.rc4max.com/silnik_szczotkowy_20-t_550__2200kv_marine,45,26525.html with water cooling. Or slower 540 55T.

    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/Brand-GoolRC-5...r-for-1-10-RC-Car-Parts/32601605012.html?spm= 2114.010208.8.84.sBmEO1
    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/RC-Boat-Brushe...ver-for-380-540-550-775/32764042934.html?spm= 2114.010208.3.55.zV99h9 & ws_ab_test = searchweb0_0, searchweb201602_0_10065_10068_10136_10137_10138_10060_10062_10141_10056_10055_10054_122_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10144_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10143_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10037_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10122_10123_10124, searchweb201603_0, afswitch_1, ppcSwitch_5, single_sort_0_default & btsid = 1b08bb82-4005-45bd-83eb-d8ad9b8e0ac6 & algo_expid = 745e1e5f-f5bd-44d5-9cfa-a4e3dcb5c078-6 & algo_pvid = 745e1e5f-f5bd-44d5-9cfa-a4e3dcb5c078

    Apparatus is enough for a 6-channel container to protect the receiver from moisture
    https://ce-partner.pl/pojemnik-odbiornika-reely-skala-1-10-do-modelu-b.28,314022,19987 or another container fitted.
    Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines

    Drive shafts - Shaft shaft for motors 600 F 4 M4 200mm (6715405069) 2 pcs. length tailored to the needs of 150 - 300mm.

    Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines

    I recommend making a hole for lubrication of shafts, only silicone oil for sewing machines with permanent grease causes seizure of the shaft.
    Without rudder, servos not needed in fishing boats are not used.
    Adjusting the rotation of the propellers.
    But you will need 2 servos for the unloading flaps.
    2 pcs. SERW TowerPro MG996 will be required additionadditional servo feeding before UBEC, supplying the receiver with too low permissible current can cause interference at high current load.

    http://radio-modele.pl/iflight-ubec-5a-bec-5-30v-(8-12-celek-li-po),383,26071.html

    For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1a8v0hH5PI
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3315922.html#16325874

    Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines
    A three-blade screw with a diameter of about 40 -45 mm larger will load the motors.
    Screw with M4 thread for the diameter of the drive shaft.

    http://www.rc4max.com/sruba_3-blade_carbon_hydro_42_mm___m4_-_graupner,860,8431.html or with a smaller pitch.

    Selection of the diameter of the propellers will only be possible after the dimensions of the propeller chamber have been measured.
    Install a OE 6mm pipe bent at the stern, pointing forward to collect water and cool the engines.

    Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines

    The LED lighting was still there. And covers for chambers with screws

    Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines Completing a Fishunter Hull-Based Groundbait Boat: FlySky FS-i6, GPX Extreme Engines

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  • #5 16391987
    hadson81
    Level 7  
    So ladies and gentlemen, I will put something like that on brush motors;
    Hull STS Boat 500- PLN 350
    swift 500 x2 engines - PLN 100
    bi-directional regulators sts (current: 20A continuous, 40A to 20s, BEC: 5V, 2A) x2- PLN 140
    drive shaft STS x2-170
    Servo TowerPro MG-995 PLN 40
    6v 10mah x 2 batteries (connected in series) - PLN 73
    FlySky FS-i6 apparatus PLN 224
    Three blade vane propellers with a diameter of 32.5 mm - approx. PLN 15 pair

    Any suggestions? such a set has the right to swim?
    And I have an Asking question about regulators because both of them are from BEC and it's probably not good, am I wrong?
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  • #8 16392211
    1 PAWEL
    Level 42  
    The regulator below 10V engine power will be limited to 60%, below 9V the engine will be turned off, it is rather a defect. The car drives to a voltage drop, for example, a secured cut-off of 2.7V to the LiPo cell.
    I thought you would control two engines, connected so-called. Delta mixer (or V-tail).
    The remaining case of the drive shaft with flange 0 problems quiet operation.
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  • #9 16392245
    hadson81
    Level 7  
    So these regulators are lime :(
    And with this apparatus you can not mix channels to be controlled by engines? in the shop where I want to buy I was informed that only bi-directional regulators and the FlySky FS-i6 apparatus are enough

    Added after 11 [minutes]:

    I suggested an example from this store http://www.lodka-zanetowa.pl/-p-30.html and there claim that it is enough to control without additional modules
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    #10 16392718
    1 PAWEL
    Level 42  
    I have not read about the possibilities and software of this apparatus if you have found the right mixer.
    As you will see in the bushes, these regulators will be fried due to lack of cooling.
    I advise drive shafts with a collar.

    http://mmhobby.pl/regulator-szczotkowy-esc-320a-high-voltage-7216v-radiator-p-2.html

    https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/1pcs-Waterproo...-3A-BEC-T-Plug-For-1-10/32734574386.html?spm= 2114.010208.3.75.r8k0iV & ws_ab_test = searchweb0_0, searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10136_10137_10138_10060_10062_10141_10056_10055_10054_122_10059_10099_10103_10102_10096_10148_10052_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10143_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10037_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10123_10124, searchweb201603_4, afswitch_1, ppcSwitch_5, single_sort_0_default & btsid = cee65585-09ef-4715-898b-b5b2f7d540ba & algo_expid = ce61163e-a2d4-4824-8b34-bb55f1d848f1-8 & algo_pvid = ce61163e-a2d4-4824-8b34-bb55f1d848f1

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3315922.html
  • #12 16393529
    1 PAWEL
    Level 42  
    A good selection of regulator with a fan, but it can be with a heatsink with a higher permissible power consumption.
    Do not overpower yourself, you can drill a hole for lubrication and a thread for a nipple with an M5 thread
    water inlet / outlet nipple with thread m5 1 pc. (6767977048)
    inlet / outlet 90 degrees water nipple with thread M5 1pc (6704896788)

    http://www.modele.sklep.pl/pl/Katalog/LODZIE/...-z-kielichem-dla-silnikow-600-2484-M4-190-mm- MP-JET.html monkey = 2
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    A bit different topic

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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around assembling a groundbait boat using a Fishunter hull, focusing on the selection of electronic components. The user has chosen FlySky FS-i6 transmitter and iA6 receiver, along with two GPX Extreme SWIFT 500 12V engines. Various speed controllers (ESCs) are suggested, including the TURNIGY one-way regulator and the a-ROCKET-60A-BRUSHED, with considerations for cooling and power requirements. Participants emphasize the need for bi-directional ESCs for reversing and suggest using a robust power supply, ideally 12V, to match the engines. Concerns about the power ratings of the chosen components and the necessity of proper cooling for the ESCs are raised. The user also inquires about the compatibility of the FlySky FS-i6 with mixing channels for dual motor control. Suggestions for battery configurations and drive shafts are provided, along with links to various products.
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