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GA-G41M-ES2L Motherboard Compatibility with Xeon X5460, BIOS Update & SLBBA vs SLANP

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  • #1 16392570
    miszczo997
    Level 28  
    Hello.
    I did a little research, but I just wanted to make sure.
    I have the GA-G41M-ES2L motherboard in revision 1.1.
    http://www.gigabyte.pl/products/page/mb/ga-g41m-es2l_11/overview/
    Here is the list of supported CPUs
    http://www.gigabyte.com/Support/GetCpuList/?Value=3261&Type=Product
    I found information that if the board supports the Core (TM) 2 Quad Q9650 series processors, it should also work with Intel(R) Xeon(R) Processor X5460
    https://ark.intel.com/pl/products/33087/Intel...ocessor-X5460-12M-Cache-3_16-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB
    As you can buy it for less than $ 20, I have a few questions:
    1. Is there a chance that the processor will work with my motherboard?
    2. Is it necessary to upload a modified version of the bios Link to keep everything working properly?
    3. Which processor version to choose SLBBA or SLANP?

    And another question, I currently have an Intel(R) Core (TM) 2 Quad Processor Q8300 operating at the factory frequency of 2.5GHz. When trying to overclock even with a slight increase in the frequency of the FSB bus, the computer resets after saving the settings and restores the standard FSB frequency, displaying an error message when re-entering the bios. I found information that some copies of this board had FSB wall already at 340MHz. Is it possible or is it due to some mistake on my part?
    It is worth investing PLN 80 in changing the processor, which I will not be able to overclock anyway? In total, at a similar price, I will get rid of the old one, maybe it's worth the risk?
    Current Specification:
    cpu: Intel(R) Core (TM) 2 Quad Processor Q8300
    mobo: GA-G41M-ES2L rev1.1
    ram: 2x2GB @ 800MHz DDR2
    atx: CORSAIR VS450
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    #2 16392660
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    miszczo997 wrote:
    1. Is there a chance that the processor will work with my motherboard?

    All processors supported by this board have a TDP of 95W. The X5460 has a TDP of 120W. This poor power section on this board probably won't be able to withstand such a load ;)

    miszczo997 wrote:
    2. Is it necessary to upload a modified version of the bios Link to keep everything working properly?

    Sometimes it works, sometimes it fails - you can experiment, but definitely not with the processor you have chosen, for the reasons mentioned above.

    As for the OC, this board is simply not suitable - the budget G41 chipset and the rest of the board. Probably there is even no option to change the GMCH voltage.
    In addition, a poor power section.

    For performance reasons, it is not profitable to replace the CPU. This CPU will probably do well above 3 GHz on a good board. If you want to modernize your PC, buy something from Sandy Bridge at least.
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  • #3 16392855
    miszczo997
    Level 28  
    I looked through the available offers and my attention was caught by the Xeon E3-1220, which can be purchased for PLN 300. Apparently it's the equivalent of the i5 2500. I can see the TDP 80W, so I will be able to use the power supply that I currently have in my PC. Will it be a good choice? What board do I need for this processor? From what I was able to figure out, this processor has a blocked multiplier, so it will also work with the rated parameters. A colleague has a GA-H61M-S1 board for sale http://www.gigabyte.pl/products/page/mb/ga-h61m-s1rev_21/overview/ and I can see that it supports the above processor - will it be good? Or maybe at a similar or not much higher price I will find something better?
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    #4 16392873
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    This is how the processor is supported, from BIOS version F5. Well, nothing more than the i5 2500 can not be demanded (except for the lack of iGPU :) ). The board has little expandability (e.g. 2 RAM slots), but it will work with the rated parameters. I don't know for how much you can buy this album, so I won't say what you can buy for a similar amount. There will definitely be a difference in performance (of course, a plus :D ) compared to what you currently have. Let me add that you also need to replace the RAM with DDR3.
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    #5 16392991
    Dra98
    Moderator of Computers service
    miszczo997 wrote:
    My attention was caught by the Xeon E3-1220

    It is not a bad CPU.
    miszczo997 wrote:
    Or maybe at a similar or not much higher price I will find something better?

    I would rather look for an i5 3470 ~ 350 PLN or less if you manage to bid.
    It's better, has a 1600MHz memory controller, supports PCI-e 3.0, can be used with high-speed graphics card.
    http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare_CPUs/Intel_CM8062300921702,Intel_CM8063701093302/
  • #6 16393293
    miszczo997
    Level 28  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    I don't know for how much you can buy this CD
    I got along with him and he will sell it for PLN 60. The album is practically new, because he bought it when he sent his back for a guarantee, so as not to be left without a computer for this time.
    Let's say that I would like to spend no more than PLN 500 on the whole. Ram, I only need 4GB to start with, which is another PLN 100. ~ PLN 350 is left for the processor itself.
    Dra98 wrote:
    It's better, has a 1600MHz memory controller, supports PCI-e 3.0, can be used with high-speed graphics card.

    I forgot to write my graphics card. It is a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 460 1024MB (GV-N460OC-1GI) which runs on PCIe 2.0. I am not going to change it yet. Does it make sense to buy the i5 3470 anyway? In the benchmark, I see that the i5 is only about 10% faster than the xeon. Do these benchmarks somehow reflect the computing power, or there is nothing to be influenced by them?
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  • #7 16393307
    pawelr98
    Level 39  
    For PLN 60 it is fine.

    The newer processor is also a matter of the fact that these processors cannot be overclocked so every few percent counts.
  • #8 16424587
    alvaro99
    Level 22  
    Hello!
    Sorry, but I will connect, I have a board similar to yours GA-G31M-ES2L I'm gonna push into it Xeon 5450 (TDP - 80W) and I have a question - do you know if these BIOSes modified from the page you gave above are good? I wanted to implement the manual for the original bios myself hence only the website has bios with * .F10 extension, not * .ROM
    And the second question - will I be able to tweak this processor on this board?
  • #9 16424597
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    The extension doesn't matter. As for the OC, this album is not suitable for that.
  • #10 16425316
    alvaro99
    Level 22  
    Unfortunately, MMTool only accepts * .ROM files

    PS - on this list the CPUs that this board supports are listed and there's even a CPU that needs 130W ... is that real? He even writes that the 135W procek, with the 1600 rail, will go only, it is not known with what bios ...

    I found something like this on the net regarding the Xeon E5472 processor with the 1600 bus:
    ATTENTION !!! - the processor has a 1600 bus (fsb400mhz) works in boards on the P35 / P45 / 780i / 790i chipset - IN OTHER, i.e. 965/975 / g31 / g33 / g35 / g31 / g43 / g45 / p31 / p41 / x38 / x48 / q35 / q48) WILL NOT WORK - and even if by some miracle it starts, not at full speed, but with a 333 rail, for example, which will give a speed of 2.5ghz
  • #11 16425658
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    You are contradicting yourself, in the link you gave where N / A is, it means that the processor is not supported!
    Although the board officially supports TDP 130W processors, I would rather not recommend such a connection, the board only has 3 CPU phases.

    If mmtool needs a * .ROM file, change the extension. The extension of the file downloaded from the Gigabyte website means the version - that's how Gigabyte came up with it and that's it.
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  • #13 16425767
    alvaro99
    Level 22  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    If mmtool needs a * .ROM file, change the extension. The extension of the file downloaded from the Gigabyte website means the version - that's how Gigabyte came up with it and that's it.

    You know what ... I came up with this ;)
    Dra98 wrote:
    The board has an Award BIOS and MMTOOL does not support it. Changing the name won't help.
    It is exactly as you write.
    Dra98 wrote:
    Modified BIOSes were available on this page - http://genius239239.myweb.hinet.net/771/

    I entered and downloaded ... only when I unpack it, there is a bios with the F10 extension, and by specification QX9650 CPU fits F5 bios, and Q9650 F7.

    You could argue that everything should go on F10, but I did a small bios update and my processor (Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5 GHz) currently only fits the F8 bios.
    All the other "implanted" ones are not going and the "checksum error" pops up ... how good that this board has DualBios, because it brings back the old one.

    Then how to implant the Xeon instructions into the F5 or F7 bios?

    PS - and what about the Xeon X5460 processor, because according to the link you gave it should also start?
  • #14 16425775
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    Checksum error is hardly a sign of incompatibility with the given CPU. After the update, you can also reset the CMOS and save the settings again. Unless it is not a CMOS Checksum Error, but a bad checksum of the BIOS itself, then it is possible that the BIOS chip is corrupted. The latest version of the BIOS should work with all supported processors.

    PS. As for mmtool, I don't remember which program is in which BIOS, I thought you knew what you were doing by downloading this program. As for the Ami BIOS (not the one you have) even mmtool is not the only tool.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the compatibility of the GA-G41M-ES2L motherboard with the Intel Xeon X5460 processor. Users express concerns regarding the motherboard's power delivery capabilities, as the X5460 has a TDP of 120W, exceeding the 95W limit of supported CPUs. It is suggested that while some users have had success with Xeon processors, the motherboard's poor power section may lead to instability. A modified BIOS may be necessary for proper functionality, and users are advised to consider alternatives like the Xeon E3-1220 or i5-3470 for better performance and compatibility. The conversation also touches on the importance of RAM compatibility and the limitations of the motherboard in terms of overclocking and expandability.
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