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Identify Nest in Picture: Suitable Plug for 12V Socket with Flat Angled Pins in Generator

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  • #1 16402009
    eqc
    Level 7  
    Can anyone identify the nest as in the picture? I need to buy a suitable plug for it. The socket is installed in the generator and is used to charge the battery.
    Identify Nest in Picture: Suitable Plug for 12V Socket with Flat Angled Pins in Generator
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  • #4 16403044
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN
    Conditionally unlocked
    Gentlemen, but this is a 12V socket and you give examples of 230V, etc.
    250V 10A socket will not be suitable for the contact load of the 12V socket. It's not the tensions, the currents.
    But shape as it would fit.
    What is the spacing between the holes in this slot?
    What is an aggregate?
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  • #5 16403606
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    And here you cannot agree completely with your friend.
    Australian sockets are made for currents up to 10 A-30 A with tests for direct and alternating current (for example 492/32 - 32V / 15 A plug).
    Europe is not everywhere in the world. The attached photo clearly shows the description of 12V / 10A.

    Anyway, no one claims that it is exactly the same socket, we only indicate the similarity, perhaps the standards of performance according to which to look.
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  • #6 16404155
    eqc
    Level 7  
    Thanks for the answers. Socket dimensions as in the picture. Identify Nest in Picture: Suitable Plug for 12V Socket with Flat Angled Pins in Generator
    I analyzed in terms of the compliance of the angle between the pins (from the pdf from the "aaanteka" column, thank you) Identify Nest in Picture: Suitable Plug for 12V Socket with Flat Angled Pins in Generator
    and between mine there is no 120 degrees. I did not measure exactly, but after drawing the axis, you can see that the angles are not equal, so it is not 120 degrees.

    The aggregate is an old Yamaha EF600 "made in Japan" for the German market. The socket looks original and I do not think that the Yamaha factory will install a 12V battery charging socket into which you could insert a 230V plug from any part of the world :)
  • #7 16404320
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    aaanteka wrote:
    Australian sockets are made for currents up to 10 A - 30 A with tests for direct and alternating current (for example 492/32 - 32V / 15 A plug)


    This type of socket is not for supply voltage but for 32V / 10-15A DC, commonly used in power generators for 12V voltage, like 402/32.
    eqc wrote:
    The aggregate is an old Yamaha EF600 "made in Japan" for the German market.


    Certainly imported from Germany, but not for the German market. What colleague has an AC socket?
    Identify Nest in Picture: Suitable Plug for 12V Socket with Flat Angled Pins in Generator

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  • #9 16404418
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    The first is the more typical in Europe so-called T-plug (402/32).

    The second one actually resembles the 492/32 plug, but it is clearly a "counterfeit - made" product according to the market demand :D .

    It is probably better in all respects to insert a typical 12V cigarette lighter socket, a 110V USA panel socket of good quality (at least guaranteed quality as well as the availability of good cables and plugs), or simply screw terminals.
  • #10 16405015
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN
    Conditionally unlocked
    I would insert a standard English type socket. As for the amperage, I have one with the rectifier with a start-up and they can easily withstand 10-20A at 12 / 24V. The socket itself can be bought in an online store and the plugs can be found next to toys, rtv devices, household appliances imported from England - I often see used clothes stores with an "electronics" basket.
    Identify Nest in Picture: Suitable Plug for 12V Socket with Flat Angled Pins in Generator
    It will look nice in such a generator and when using a plug with a pin and connecting in the right way, there is no possibility of reverse connection. For me, it is connected in such a way that there is a minus on the zero pin and + 12V (or 24V depending on the switch position) in the lower two holes.
  • #11 16405128
    kkas12
    Level 43  
    Refer to the PCE catalog Link on page 131 you will find what you are looking for.
  • #12 16405502
    eqc
    Level 7  
    Colleagues, I do not want to fix the aggregate after the factory, cut, drill, etc. I thought that with this plug it would be a simpler matter, but since the product is in short supply, I will buy this ready-made cable (which I did not know about) or I will do it on car slips W 6.3 because with roughly fit the socket :)
  • #13 16406138
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    As I wrote, a better and cheaper option two, the proposed replacement looks like a very poor Far East implementation on quite "suspicious components". My own implementation seems to be accurate, but it may try to use a 110V plug - more solid contacts.
    On the other hand, the factory produced this device quite a long time ago for a different region of use. There is now a bit more standardization in this regard.
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  • #14 16406145
    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    PATAFIAN_PATAFIAN wrote:
    Gentlemen, but this is a 12V socket and you give examples of 230V, etc.
    Are you popping out here with nonsense again? :cry: Well, so what ?? This socket ensures that polarity cannot be changed, and that's what it's all about. In small portable generators, the maximum current consumption from the 12VDC line must not exceed 10A.

    @eqc Oddly, a cable with such a plug, terminated with crocodile clips for the battery, comes with a set of basic tools (candle wrench, screwdriver) with a generator. Claim for him.

    https://sklep.bergo.com.pl/glo...umulatora-83a-12v-benzyna.html This one is correct for this aggregate! The second is not!
  • #15 16406219
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    Please, buddy read carefully, not in your own mental shortcuts. We are dealing here with a fairly old aggregate, probably coming from the secondary circuit.
  • #16 16406253
    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    aaanteka wrote:
    from the secondary circuit.
    Well, so what ? Chinese low-end generator, no matter where it is sold. Buddy, as I wrote, a cable was added to this unit according to my colleague's line @ mawerix123 and what happened to him, no one knows except the seller. Here, as usual, the simplest things are converted into "doctorates" :cry:
  • #17 16406283
    aaanteka
    Level 42  
    The fact that the author of the topic is probably the nth user of a device that is quite worn out, which last time dealt with the website many years ago, as it was at all.

    Link there is still so much that it needs to be properly rewritten.

    eqc wrote:
    The aggregate is an old Yamaha EF600 "made in Japan" for the German market.


    Krzysztof Kamienski wrote:
    @eqc Strange, a cable with such a plug, terminated with crocodile clips for the battery, comes with a set of basic tools (candle wrench, screwdriver) with a generator. Claim for him .

    https://sklep.bergo.com.pl/glo...umulatora-83a-12v-benzyna.html This one is correct for this aggregate! The second is not!
  • #18 16407828
    eqc
    Level 7  
    aaanteka wrote:
    The fact that the author of the topic is probably the nth user of a device that is quite worn out, which last time dealt with the website many years ago, as it was at all.

    So what, buddy, that the nth. Equipment in those years was made for ages. This is not my first old age that I use and probably not the last one. Always fixing something in them, I am impressed with the solidity with which they were made. Even if something breaks, they are replaceable parts. I understand that you are a fan of the new and shiny gems with full flair.
    I prefer the old, angular, clunky but designed to be repaired, not thrown away!

    Krzysztof Kamienski wrote:
    @eqc Strange, a cable with such a plug, terminated with crocodile clips for the battery, comes with a set of basic tools (candle wrench, screwdriver) with a generator. Claim for him.

    The link does not work, the one pasted by aaanteka is the same as before, but there is nothing about freebies. Anyway, PLN 20 for a cable with crocodile clips is still pennies, so these freebies are probably a mistake.

    Thanks for all the answers, I close the topic because there is a delicate argument about the superiority of Christmas ... :)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around identifying a specific 12V socket with flat angled pins used in a generator for battery charging. Various users suggest that the socket resembles Australian and Chinese "Type I" plugs, but caution that these are typically for higher voltages (230V). The socket is confirmed to be for 12V DC applications, with some users recommending standard 12V cigarette lighter sockets or specific charging cables designed for generators. The original poster expresses a preference for a simple plug solution without modifying the generator, ultimately considering purchasing a ready-made charging cable or using car slip connectors. The conversation highlights the importance of ensuring compatibility with the generator's specifications and the need for proper amperage handling.
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